On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:54:23 -0500, John H
wrote:

Dualies are fuel hogs, and don't add that much to towing capacity.

===

Perhaps, but it seems intuitive that they would add to stability,
braking and tongue weight capability. Why else would people buy
them?

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:03:07 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:54:23 -0500, John H
wrote:

Dualies are fuel hogs, and don't add that much to towing capacity.

===

Perhaps, but it seems intuitive that they would add to stability,
braking and tongue weight capability. Why else would people buy
them?

You made me get out the book. The K3500 regular cab with single rear wheels can pull a max trailer
weight of 15,400 lbs. With dual rear wheels the max weight is 16,500 lbs.

Personally, I don't think the extra 1100 lbs is worth it, but if you've got a trailer weighing that
much, then the dually becomes necessary.

For 9000 lbs, I wouldn't even think about it.

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'.

Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg

A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4
is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has
a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small
Bayliner?

I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser.
260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet
and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a
beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle
and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and
stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit
mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the
thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl
for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break
right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open
fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it?

Casady

A truck. I'd look at a diesel Silverado. Something like this:

http://tinyurl.com/c3bb632

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote:

Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The
real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width
and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could
be a deal breaker.

====

Over height is probably not an issue unless it has a flybridge or
tower. Over width is quite likely but not by a huge amount, easily
remedied with the right signs and permits.

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:58:05 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:36:22 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote:

Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The
real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width
and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could
be a deal breaker.

====

Over height is probably not an issue unless it has a flybridge or
tower. Over width is quite likely but not by a huge amount, easily
remedied with the right signs and permits.

Over height was a stretch, but since I lacked information on the
trailer and complete information on the boat, it seemed necessary to
mention.

Over width is almost assured, since the boat, alone, is at the legal
limit. Any guide-ons will exceed the legal limit.

Over "size" is not trivial. It requires (based on location)
combinations of lights, signs, permits, flags, banners, pilot cars and
limitations on travel after dark, before dawn, on holidays and days
preceding and succeeding. To me, a deal breaker.

Only the OP knows the particulars and, now, armed with the right
questions, can tell US what the right tow vehicle is.

The boat was designed with a narrow beam in order to be trailerable.
The picture of it on the ramp shows a trailer a good two feet narrower
than the boat. It has a foot deep keel to keep it from shifting from
side to side. With bow and stern thrusters to help it might not be too
hard to load. The mast folds for a hight, floating of just a bit over
niine feet. As for launching it light, in Iowa there is no such thing
as a marina with diesel or sanitary pump out. The lake where I have
done my boating for the last fifty years, has just one gas pump, not
even one resort, all private homes.

On Nov 29, 9:18*am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:58:05 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:36:22 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote:

Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The
real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width
and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could
be a deal breaker.

====

Over height is probably not an issue unless it has a flybridge or
tower. *Over width is quite likely but not by a huge amount, easily
remedied with the right signs and permits.

Over height was a stretch, but since I lacked information on the
trailer and complete information on the boat, it seemed necessary to
mention.

Over width is almost assured, since the boat, alone, is at the legal
limit. Any guide-ons will exceed the legal limit.

Over "size" is not trivial. It requires (based on location)
combinations of lights, signs, permits, flags, banners, pilot cars and
limitations on travel after dark, before dawn, on holidays and days
preceding and succeeding. To me, a deal breaker.

Only the OP knows the particulars and, now, armed with the right
questions, can tell US what the right tow vehicle is.

The boat was designed with a narrow beam in order to be trailerable.
The picture of it on the ramp shows a trailer a good two feet narrower
than the boat. It has a foot deep keel to keep it from shifting from
side to side. With bow and stern thrusters to help it might not be too
hard to load. The mast folds for a hight, floating of just a bit over
niine feet. As for launching it light, in Iowa there is no such thing
as a marina with diesel or sanitary pump out. The lake where I have
done my boating for the last fifty years, has just one gas pump, not
even one resort, all private homes.

I don't recall a picture, and couldn't find it when reviewing the
posts. Could you repost it, or a link, please?

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'.

Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg

A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4
is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has
a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small
Bayliner?

I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser.
260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet
and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a
beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle
and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and
stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit
mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the
thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl
for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break
right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open
fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it?

Casady

Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The
real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width
and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could
be a deal breaker.

The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer,
which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height
with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be
more on the trailer.

http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:40:23 -0600, Richard Casady wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'.

Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg

A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4
is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has
a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small
Bayliner?

I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser.
260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet
and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a
beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle
and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and
stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit
mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the
thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl
for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break
right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open
fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it?

Casady

Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The
real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width
and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could
be a deal breaker.

The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer,
which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height
with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be
more on the trailer.

http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/

Can't get to that page with Firefox or Internet Explorer.

John H wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:40:23 -0600, Richard wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John
wrote:

OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'.

Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg
A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4
is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has
a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small
Bayliner?
I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser.
260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet
and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a
beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle
and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and
stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit
mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the
thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl
for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break
right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open
fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it?

Casady
Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The
real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width
and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could
be a deal breaker.
The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer,
which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height
with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be
more on the trailer.

http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/
Can't get to that page with Firefox or Internet Explorer.
Try this....

http://www.cu****erboats.com/article...Trail_2011.pdf

-HB

On 11/30/2011 8:21 PM, Honey Badger wrote:
John H wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:40:23 -0600, Richard
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:55:42 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 05:54:27 -0600, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:00:53 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John
wrote:

OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'.

Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg
A "truck" can, fairly, be judged on its ability to tow a boat. A RAV4
is a girly "truck" suitable for hauling girly boats. What "truck" has
a maximum towing capacity of about 3500 pounds? Maybe a really small
Bayliner?
I am considering buying a Cu****er 28 inboard single Diesel cruiser.
260 HP Yanmar six, usual amenaties. Thirty three feet with the pulpet
and swim platform. A telescoping ladder over the bow to access a
beach. Probably close to 9000 pounds fully equipped with AC rev cycle
and a generator, as well as full fuel and water. Standard bow and
stern thrusters, optional wireless remote and optiional cockpit
mounted wheel and throttle. Hold it against the fenders with the
thrusters while you untie the lines. The head has a flimsy glass bowl
for a sink, attached at the bottom, not recessed and sure to break
right off if anyone puts any weight on it. The head door will not open
fully if the V berth is made up. So what do you need to haul it?

Casady
Others have provided the correct answer with respect to hardware. The
real issue may be that the boat and trailer combination are over width
and/or over height. Depending on the intended towing area, that could
be a deal breaker.
The web site shows a Ram 2500 with the boat on an EzLoader trailer,
which is a coupl;e of feet narrower than the 8 1/2 foot boat. Height
with it in the water, mast folded, is less than ten feet. It would be
more on the trailer.

http://www.cu****erboats.com/articles/
Can't get to that page with Firefox or Internet Explorer.
Try this....

http://www.cu****erboats.com/article...Trail_2011.pdf

-HB

Noice... how much fuel would it use in a typical weekend?