On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:55:05 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:37:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 13, 8:27*pm, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/13/11 7:46 PM, BAR wrote:









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On 9/13/11 7:55 AM, BAR wrote:
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:59:07 -0700, wrote:

The same technology? You want to mandate restaurants to have a glassed
in section with it's own air system??

If they did, would you be happy? *I thought not.
They have even offered to have two separate buildings, with the same
food and the same ambiance ... nope. not good enough.
Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they
think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people.

I was just at a party in a restaurant.
After eating we smokers all went outside for a smoke.
Some non-smokers tagged along to avoid boredom.
Left about 2/3 of the party sitting there twiddling their thumbs.
They sat in dumb silence until we got back.
Then the party resumed.
Anti-smokers are often a sad lot.
Walk around all their lives with a stick up their ass just to live a few
more years of their uptight misery.
Pretty sad. *Some are okay. *They usually do other drugs.

My argument all along. A longer life expectancy is the reward for a
dull, very dull life.

Gotta love the rationalizations of the simple-minded.

I watched my great-grandmother sit in a chair in my grandmother's living
room for 15 years. She watched TV, ate and slept. I don't think she was
doing much more five years before we moved back east. So, for 20 years
she watched TV all day long and didn't do much else. Is that how you
want to spend your years from 80 to 100?

There's no reason to believe your familial experience is *the* pattern
for all older people. I know a few guys well into their 80's who are
actively involved in intellectually complicated "mover and shaker" tasks
that would be beyond the abilities of many half their age. Neither of
them are "smokers." I had a relative who died at 99 after a long,
healthy, active life, and she was sharp as a tack until the very end.

Hey, it's perfectly ok with me if you prefer to die young.

On the other hand, my grandfather started smoking "roll yer own's" at
age 11 when he lived in rural Skytook OK, and always smoked Lucky's,
Chesterfields, Pall Malls, or Camels. The only time he smoked a
filtered cigarette was when he had to bum one or pulled the wrong knob
on the vending machine. He quit those when he was 78 and went with a
pipe. He quit the pipe when he was 85 and passed away at 97. BTW, the
week before he died, he was mowing his lawn with a push mower.

Damn, Tim, that almost makes me want to start smoking again!

Here are the latest results from my "Quit Meter":

This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for ten years, eight months, three
weeks, 10 hours, and 54 minutes. This has resulted in 195,822 cigarettes not smoked, saving
$29,373.09 and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Al Gore is quite
proud of him. Furthermore, this will provide him an additional 1 year, 44 weeks, 22 hours, and 30
minutes to spend his daughters' inheritance.

Your daughter must be very sad.

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:02:45 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:55:05 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:37:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 13, 8:27*pm, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/13/11 7:46 PM, BAR wrote:









In articleR5GdnR9K0vwK2PLTnZ2dnUVZ_sWdn...@earthlink .com,
says...

On 9/13/11 7:55 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,
says...

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:59:07 -0700, wrote:

The same technology? You want to mandate restaurants to have a glassed
in section with it's own air system??

If they did, would you be happy? *I thought not.
They have even offered to have two separate buildings, with the same
food and the same ambiance ... nope. not good enough.
Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they
think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people.

I was just at a party in a restaurant.
After eating we smokers all went outside for a smoke.
Some non-smokers tagged along to avoid boredom.
Left about 2/3 of the party sitting there twiddling their thumbs.
They sat in dumb silence until we got back.
Then the party resumed.
Anti-smokers are often a sad lot.
Walk around all their lives with a stick up their ass just to live a few
more years of their uptight misery.
Pretty sad. *Some are okay. *They usually do other drugs.

My argument all along. A longer life expectancy is the reward for a
dull, very dull life.

Gotta love the rationalizations of the simple-minded.

I watched my great-grandmother sit in a chair in my grandmother's living
room for 15 years. She watched TV, ate and slept. I don't think she was
doing much more five years before we moved back east. So, for 20 years
she watched TV all day long and didn't do much else. Is that how you
want to spend your years from 80 to 100?

There's no reason to believe your familial experience is *the* pattern
for all older people. I know a few guys well into their 80's who are
actively involved in intellectually complicated "mover and shaker" tasks
that would be beyond the abilities of many half their age. Neither of
them are "smokers." I had a relative who died at 99 after a long,
healthy, active life, and she was sharp as a tack until the very end.

Hey, it's perfectly ok with me if you prefer to die young.

On the other hand, my grandfather started smoking "roll yer own's" at
age 11 when he lived in rural Skytook OK, and always smoked Lucky's,
Chesterfields, Pall Malls, or Camels. The only time he smoked a
filtered cigarette was when he had to bum one or pulled the wrong knob
on the vending machine. He quit those when he was 78 and went with a
pipe. He quit the pipe when he was 85 and passed away at 97. BTW, the
week before he died, he was mowing his lawn with a push mower.

Damn, Tim, that almost makes me want to start smoking again!

Here are the latest results from my "Quit Meter":

This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for ten years, eight months, three
weeks, 10 hours, and 54 minutes. This has resulted in 195,822 cigarettes not smoked, saving
$29,373.09 and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Al Gore is quite
proud of him. Furthermore, this will provide him an additional 1 year, 44 weeks, 22 hours, and 30
minutes to spend his daughters' inheritance.

Your daughter must be very sad.

Plural.

Nope. They're very happy for me.

On Sep 15, 2:02*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:55:05 -0400, John H
wrote:





On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:37:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 13, 8:27 pm, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/13/11 7:46 PM, BAR wrote:

In articleR5GdnR9K0vwK2PLTnZ2dnUVZ_sWdn...@earthlink .com,
says...

On 9/13/11 7:55 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,
says...

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:59:07 -0700, wrote:

The same technology? You want to mandate restaurants to have a glassed
in section with it's own air system??

If they did, would you be happy? I thought not.
They have even offered to have two separate buildings, with the same
food and the same ambiance ... nope. not good enough.
Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they
think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people.

I was just at a party in a restaurant.
After eating we smokers all went outside for a smoke.
Some non-smokers tagged along to avoid boredom.
Left about 2/3 of the party sitting there twiddling their thumbs..
They sat in dumb silence until we got back.
Then the party resumed.
Anti-smokers are often a sad lot.
Walk around all their lives with a stick up their ass just to live a few
more years of their uptight misery.
Pretty sad. Some are okay. They usually do other drugs.

My argument all along. A longer life expectancy is the reward for a
dull, very dull life.

Gotta love the rationalizations of the simple-minded.

I watched my great-grandmother sit in a chair in my grandmother's living
room for 15 years. She watched TV, ate and slept. I don't think she was
doing much more five years before we moved back east. So, for 20 years
she watched TV all day long and didn't do much else. Is that how you
want to spend your years from 80 to 100?

There's no reason to believe your familial experience is *the* pattern
for all older people. I know a few guys well into their 80's who are
actively involved in intellectually complicated "mover and shaker" tasks
that would be beyond the abilities of many half their age. Neither of
them are "smokers." I had a relative who died at 99 after a long,
healthy, active life, and she was sharp as a tack until the very end.

Hey, it's perfectly ok with me if you prefer to die young.

On the other hand, my grandfather started smoking "roll yer own's" at
age 11 when he lived in rural Skytook OK, and always smoked Lucky's,
Chesterfields, Pall Malls, or Camels. The only time he smoked a
filtered cigarette was when he had to bum one or pulled the wrong knob
on the vending machine. He quit those when he was 78 and went with a
pipe. He quit the pipe when he was 85 and passed away at 97. BTW, the
week before he died, he was mowing his lawn with a push mower.

Damn, Tim, that almost makes me want to start smoking again!

Here are the latest results from my "Quit Meter":

This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for ten years, eight months, three
weeks, 10 hours, and 54 minutes. This has resulted in 195,822 cigarettes not smoked, saving
$29,373.09 and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Al Gore is quite
proud of him. Furthermore, this will provide him an additional 1 year, 44 weeks, 22 hours, and 30
minutes to spend his daughters' inheritance.

Your daughter must be very sad.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Not to mention his wife! ;-)

In article 8d4c04e7-aafc-44c4-9e97-27ca7805f072
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On Sep 15, 2:02*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:55:05 -0400, John H
wrote:





On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:37:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 13, 8:27 pm, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/13/11 7:46 PM, BAR wrote:

In articleR5GdnR9K0vwK2PLTnZ2dnUVZ_sWdn...@earthlink .com,
says...

On 9/13/11 7:55 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

In ,
says...

On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 17:59:07 -0700, wrote:

The same technology? You want to mandate restaurants to have a glassed
in section with it's own air system??

If they did, would you be happy? I thought not.
They have even offered to have two separate buildings, with the same
food and the same ambiance ... nope. not good enough.
Self absorbed non smokers demand access to both buildings because they
think they are missing something. Yes they are ... the fun people.

I was just at a party in a restaurant.
After eating we smokers all went outside for a smoke.
Some non-smokers tagged along to avoid boredom.
Left about 2/3 of the party sitting there twiddling their thumbs.
They sat in dumb silence until we got back.
Then the party resumed.
Anti-smokers are often a sad lot.
Walk around all their lives with a stick up their ass just to live a few
more years of their uptight misery.
Pretty sad. Some are okay. They usually do other drugs.

My argument all along. A longer life expectancy is the reward for a
dull, very dull life.

Gotta love the rationalizations of the simple-minded.

I watched my great-grandmother sit in a chair in my grandmother's living
room for 15 years. She watched TV, ate and slept. I don't think she was
doing much more five years before we moved back east. So, for 20 years
she watched TV all day long and didn't do much else. Is that how you
want to spend your years from 80 to 100?

There's no reason to believe your familial experience is *the* pattern
for all older people. I know a few guys well into their 80's who are
actively involved in intellectually complicated "mover and shaker" tasks
that would be beyond the abilities of many half their age. Neither of
them are "smokers." I had a relative who died at 99 after a long,
healthy, active life, and she was sharp as a tack until the very end.

Hey, it's perfectly ok with me if you prefer to die young.

On the other hand, my grandfather started smoking "roll yer own's" at
age 11 when he lived in rural Skytook OK, and always smoked Lucky's,
Chesterfields, Pall Malls, or Camels. The only time he smoked a
filtered cigarette was when he had to bum one or pulled the wrong knob
on the vending machine. He quit those when he was 78 and went with a
pipe. He quit the pipe when he was 85 and passed away at 97. BTW, the
week before he died, he was mowing his lawn with a push mower.

Damn, Tim, that almost makes me want to start smoking again!

Here are the latest results from my "Quit Meter":

This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for ten years, eight months, three
weeks, 10 hours, and 54 minutes. This has resulted in 195,822 cigarettes not smoked, saving
$29,373.09 and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Al Gore is quite
proud of him. Furthermore, this will provide him an additional 1 year, 44 weeks, 22 hours, and 30
minutes to spend his daughters' inheritance.

Your daughter must be very sad.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Not to mention his wife! ;-)

I'll bet your wife is pretty sad having to live in that hovel you own.

On 9/15/11 2:14 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:01:57 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:35:23 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:10:08 -0700, wrote:

Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".


We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing

It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.



Make up your mind, You are arguing with yourself again

So, now you're equating bubble gum with nicotine gum????

Nobody ever said bubble gum, We were talking about smokers and
reformed smokers, that implies nicotine gum. It is the gum that I was
talking about. The two are easy to tell apart, even stuck to the
bottom of your shoe.


You don't happen to eat a lot of fatty foods and drink a lot of booze,
do you?


--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.

In article ,
says...

On 9/15/11 2:14 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:01:57 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:35:23 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:10:08 -0700, wrote:

Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".


We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing

It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.



Make up your mind, You are arguing with yourself again

So, now you're equating bubble gum with nicotine gum????

Nobody ever said bubble gum, We were talking about smokers and
reformed smokers, that implies nicotine gum. It is the gum that I was
talking about. The two are easy to tell apart, even stuck to the
bottom of your shoe.


You don't happen to eat a lot of fatty foods and drink a lot of booze,
do you?

That sounds as if you are talking about yourself.

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:02:45 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:55:05 -0400, John H


Here are the latest results from my "Quit Meter":

This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for ten years, eight months, three
weeks, 10 hours, and 54 minutes. This has resulted in 195,822 cigarettes not smoked, saving
$29,373.09 and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Al Gore is quite
proud of him. Furthermore, this will provide him an additional 1 year, 44 weeks, 22 hours, and 30
minutes to spend his daughters' inheritance.

Your daughter must be very sad.

What a sorry excuse for a person you are.
Here is a guy with a success story and you are still posting snarky
comments.

I think it is time for you to go back on my ignore list.

She's almost as childish as Harry and Don.

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:14:52 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:01:57 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:35:23 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:10:08 -0700, wrote:

Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".


We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing

It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.



Make up your mind, You are arguing with yourself again

So, now you're equating bubble gum with nicotine gum????

Nobody ever said bubble gum, We were talking about smokers and
reformed smokers, that implies nicotine gum. It is the gum that I was
talking about. The two are easy to tell apart, even stuck to the
bottom of your shoe.

Ok. I never made that connection. In any case, it doesn't contradict
anything I said.

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:18:03 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:02:45 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:55:05 -0400, John H


Here are the latest results from my "Quit Meter":

This will certify that John Leo Herring has not smoked cigarettes for ten years, eight months, three
weeks, 10 hours, and 54 minutes. This has resulted in 195,822 cigarettes not smoked, saving
$29,373.09 and a great reduction in his Global Warming Carbon Dioxide Footprint. Al Gore is quite
proud of him. Furthermore, this will provide him an additional 1 year, 44 weeks, 22 hours, and 30
minutes to spend his daughters' inheritance.

Your daughter must be very sad.

What a sorry excuse for a person you are.
Here is a guy with a success story and you are still posting snarky
comments.

I think it is time for you to go back on my ignore list.

You are not the arbiter of my comments. Feel free to ignore me.

His "success story" includes smoking and shortening his life, making
snarky comments about something he knows little or cares little about,
and generally being a jerk.

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:14:52 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:01:57 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:35:23 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:10:08 -0700, wrote:

Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing. Feel
free to continue to defend smoker's "rights".


We are not sure what the long term effect of chewing nicotine gum is
going to be. If nicotine is the poison they say it is, how can a $200
a month gum habit be all that healthy? Swallowing 40 mg of nicotine a
day must do something bad to you. (10 chews)
Most former smokers I know still chew the gum. It is a real problem at
the club.(stuck everywhere)


Which bad habit kills people with regularity? Not gum chewing

It's pretty bad for your teeth, gums, arteries, birth defects for
babies of women's use during pregnancy... the list goes on.



Make up your mind, You are arguing with yourself again

So, now you're equating bubble gum with nicotine gum????

Nobody ever said bubble gum, We were talking about smokers and
reformed smokers, that implies nicotine gum. It is the gum that I was
talking about. The two are easy to tell apart, even stuck to the
bottom of your shoe.

I believe the directions for Nicorette calls for a cessation in the chewing of it within six months
- maybe less. I spent about two years on the stuff. Mostly I was addicted to having something in my
mouth. Now I chew Orbit in the orange package. Still addicted to having something to chew on.

I was buying my Nicorette from an outfit in Australia for about 1/3 the price it sells for here.
And, whenever my friends from Holland came over, they would bring a bunch. Again, it sells for about
half there of what it goes for locally.