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iBoatMore September 14th 11 02:20 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:25:12 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 9/13/11 3:21 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:19:53 -0700,
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:51:56 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 9/13/11 12:45 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:32:56 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:


When I worked in an office we were glad when smoking restrictions came
along in the 80's.
Nothing worse than to have a co-worker at the desk next to yours
smoking one after another.
It was like heaven...although the 'smokers' got a whole lot more
breaks than the non-smokers. I didn't begrudge them at that point.


That brings up an interesting question. I wonder how much lost
productivity arises from the number of people who are standing outside
smoking a cigarette?
I know that there seemed to be people who spent as much time outside
our office smoking as they did inside.
The smoking pit was right outside our window.
Some of the guys were happy that it seemed to be the hottest women who
smoked.

Women who smell like an ashtray are hot?

Who would want to kiss an ashtray?

Another smoker


Blech. Everything about women who smoke smells bad...their breath, their
skin, their hair, their clothes, their bed linens, their homes, their cars.


I cannot drive in a car of a smoker. It seems to permeate everything
and gets on my clothes.


And that makes it impossible for you to drive??

iBoatMore September 14th 11 02:21 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/13/11 7:08 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:02:04 -0700,
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:17:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:51:56 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 9/13/11 12:45 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:32:56 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:


When I worked in an office we were glad when smoking restrictions came
along in the 80's.
Nothing worse than to have a co-worker at the desk next to yours
smoking one after another.
It was like heaven...although the 'smokers' got a whole lot more
breaks than the non-smokers. I didn't begrudge them at that point.


That brings up an interesting question. I wonder how much lost
productivity arises from the number of people who are standing outside
smoking a cigarette?
I know that there seemed to be people who spent as much time outside
our office smoking as they did inside.
The smoking pit was right outside our window.
Some of the guys were happy that it seemed to be the hottest women who
smoked.

Women who smell like an ashtray are hot?

Yup, they just want to have fun

No idea what that means..



No doubt. You are probably allergic to fun too.



Smoking isn't fun. It's a dirty, filthy, smelly addiction.


So isn't your rec.boats addiction.

iBoatMore September 14th 11 02:22 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:10:12 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 9/13/11 7:08 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 14:02:04 -0700,
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:17:51 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:51:56 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 9/13/11 12:45 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:32:56 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:


When I worked in an office we were glad when smoking restrictions came
along in the 80's.
Nothing worse than to have a co-worker at the desk next to yours
smoking one after another.
It was like heaven...although the 'smokers' got a whole lot more
breaks than the non-smokers. I didn't begrudge them at that point.


That brings up an interesting question. I wonder how much lost
productivity arises from the number of people who are standing outside
smoking a cigarette?
I know that there seemed to be people who spent as much time outside
our office smoking as they did inside.
The smoking pit was right outside our window.
Some of the guys were happy that it seemed to be the hottest women who
smoked.

Women who smell like an ashtray are hot?

Yup, they just want to have fun

No idea what that means..


No doubt. You are probably allergic to fun too.



Smoking isn't fun. It's a dirty, filthy, smelly addiction.


Along with lip, throat, and lung cancer, not to mention all the other
great diseases that come up.


We should probably ban the sun, it's causes skin cancer.

iBoatMore September 14th 11 02:23 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:17:57 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:


I really thought I'd never see another apologetica for smoking.


Me either... strange stuff is generated these days from the right wing
about "individual" rights and freedoms.


Plenty of left wingers would be happy to tell you to put your
anti-smoking mania where the sun don't shine.
And I didn't see anybody here defending tobacco use, excepting
individual preference.
You might be taken more seriously if your mania extended to the
overweight, and those burning carcinogenic wood in fireplaces or driving
polluting cars, or flying in polluting airplanes.
Those are more serious health issues than second-hand cigarette smoke.
Perhaps you 2 can't go there. It does take common sense.
BTW. "apoligia" is the correct word.
That was really clumsy for an averred literate.
You 2 knee-jerkers should at least attempt to correct each other.


I think the government should outlaw the sun. It causes skin cancer.

Drifter[_2_] September 14th 11 02:25 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally (boring)
 
On 9/14/2011 2:06 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:55:24 -0700,
wrote:

So, now you're going to have the barkeep prevent people who are
smoking, perhaps drunk people, walking in to the other area. Thanks
for making MY point.

Why not?
The bar keep has lots of rules they enforce.

Feel free to talk to the bartender.

I am sure I know more bartenders than you do.
My wife employs about a dozen at the country club. They are the bar
cops.

So, feel free to talk to them.
\

OK so you were full of ****.
BTW who do you think is there to enforce the smoking ban?
Same drunks, same cigarettes, the only difference is, instead of
having them move back to the smoking section you have to throw them
out. Great for business huh?

So, you're claiming that the bartenders are going to start enforcing a
ban on smokers ranging all over the place?

We were talking about "INSIDE" that bar/restaurant
Do try to keep up ... or are you changing the subject yet again?


Huh? I'm taking about inside. "the bartenders are going to start
enforcing a ban on smokers ranging all over the place" What do you
think "place" means???



OK I apologize, "all over the place" confused me. If you mean all over
the inside of the bar, yes the bartender or the manager if they have
one will enforce the smoking regulations or any other rules in that
bar. If it is a tough place they also have bouncers..

I still don't get your question


Time to change the subject

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63466.html

Drifter[_2_] September 14th 11 02:28 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/14/2011 2:24 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:06:24 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:55:24 -0700,
wrote:

So, now you're going to have the barkeep prevent people who are
smoking, perhaps drunk people, walking in to the other area. Thanks
for making MY point.

Why not?
The bar keep has lots of rules they enforce.

Feel free to talk to the bartender.

I am sure I know more bartenders than you do.
My wife employs about a dozen at the country club. They are the bar
cops.

So, feel free to talk to them.
\

OK so you were full of ****.
BTW who do you think is there to enforce the smoking ban?
Same drunks, same cigarettes, the only difference is, instead of
having them move back to the smoking section you have to throw them
out. Great for business huh?

So, you're claiming that the bartenders are going to start enforcing a
ban on smokers ranging all over the place?

We were talking about "INSIDE" that bar/restaurant
Do try to keep up ... or are you changing the subject yet again?

Huh? I'm taking about inside. "the bartenders are going to start
enforcing a ban on smokers ranging all over the place" What do you
think "place" means???



OK I apologize, "all over the place" confused me. If you mean all over
the inside of the bar, yes the bartender or the manager if they have
one will enforce the smoking regulations or any other rules in that
bar. If it is a tough place they also have bouncers..

I still don't get your question


I hope you're wife is going to pay them extra for their extra effort.
I can just imagine bartenders chasing after smokers... around and
around the table. In the mean time, everyone else gets to breathe the
smoke.


You can imagine bartenders chasing smoking hot women around the table.
That's reward enough, don't you think?

Drifter[_2_] September 14th 11 02:31 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/14/2011 2:28 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:19:09 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:55:24 -0700,
wrote:

It is only disruptive if we have nazis like you and Harry are there.
As you pointed out, it is not necessarily illegal to smoke in a bar in
Florida anyway. It all depends on what kind of license they have.
If it is a restaurant that serves liquor it is illegal. If it is a bar
that serves food (AKA a cocktail lounge with a class A license) it is
up to the county.
By a like token, if it is a tobacco store with a liquor license (a
cigar bar) it is legal too.



Oh, I'm a Nazi. Thanks for clarifying! So, it's not necessarily
illegal, but you don't like ANY restrictions on YOUR rights, and to
hell with anyone else.


I support everyone's rights.


So, define MY rights to not be around a carcinogenic cloud. How do I
avoid one in a restaurant. I'm seated. Some guy waltz' in from the
smoking section, and puffs away. I'm supposed to do what? Wait for the
bouncer? Leave myself?

I am just not convinced you have a right to go in a place clearly
marked "smoking allowed" and complain about the smoke. What is so
compelling in there that you have to go in there except for your
desire to be offended and sue someone over it?


If it's a public place and the law says it isn't a smoking allowed
place, I have just as much right as everyone else. I just don't get
what your problem is. The law is pretty clear.

It reminds me of the people who buy a house next to the airport
because it is cheap and then complain about the planes.


Which people? Are you changing the subject?


Hooray for him. You are boring us to tears.

Drifter[_2_] September 14th 11 02:32 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/14/2011 4:25 AM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Sep 14, 1:28 am, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:19:09 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:55:24 -0700, wrote:


It is only disruptive if we have nazis like you and Harry are there.
As you pointed out, it is not necessarily illegal to smoke in a bar in
Florida anyway. It all depends on what kind of license they have.
If it is a restaurant that serves liquor it is illegal. If it is a bar
that serves food (AKA a cocktail lounge with a class A license) it is
up to the county.
By a like token, if it is a tobacco store with a liquor license (a
cigar bar) it is legal too.


Oh, I'm a Nazi. Thanks for clarifying! So, it's not necessarily
illegal, but you don't like ANY restrictions on YOUR rights, and to
hell with anyone else.


I support everyone's rights.


So, define MY rights to not be around a carcinogenic cloud. How do I
avoid one in a restaurant. I'm seated. Some guy waltz' in from the
smoking section, and puffs away. I'm supposed to do what? Wait for the
bouncer? Leave myself?

I am just not convinced you have a right to go in a place clearly
marked "smoking allowed" and complain about the smoke. What is so
compelling in there that you have to go in there except for your
desire to be offended and sue someone over it?


If it's a public place and the law says it isn't a smoking allowed
place, I have just as much right as everyone else. I just don't get
what your problem is. The law is pretty clear.

It reminds me of the people who buy a house next to the airport
because it is cheap and then complain about the planes.


Which people? Are you changing the subject?


No, twit. You are changing the subject. He is trying to make his point
easy for you to understand.


He's got his work cut out for him. She's a hopeless dimwit.

Drifter[_2_] September 14th 11 02:36 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/13/2011 11:22 PM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Sep 11, 8:27 pm, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:09:54 -0400, wrote:
On 9/11/2011 4:38 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:45:58 -0400, wrote:


On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:10:10 -0700, wrote:


On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:11:30 -0400, wrote:


Read up on fantasy andgetback to me.


The settlement was with the attorneys general of the states involved
and specified that this was going to be the end of it.


I am sure there might be some individual who might try to take on
Altria after this but they wouldgetground up and spit out. The idea
that anyone on the planet has not seen the warning on the side of a
cigarette pack is ludicrous.


Which has nothing to do with fantasy that lawsuits should be known
about in advance.


How many suits have there been since the settlement?


What difference does that make? Tell me about how many lawsuits are
known about in advance. I notice you keep avoiding telling me.


I suppose you consider 12 year olds cognizant of the dangers of cigar
smoke also. Typical "libertarian" nonsense.


12 year olds are prohibited by law from smoking.


As I said, the tobacco companies don't seem to care. Also, does this
mean you believe in certain gov't intrusion? I'm shocked!


You're shocked at Greg doing a flippy floppy? Why? He has to in order to
stay opposed to you.


It is not necessary Plume will always disagree with anything I say.
That is why it is fun playing withher. Icanusuallygetherarguing
withherselfbefore it is over.


And though bit hard on the arse by defeat, D'Numb will never recognize
it.

Her real name is Daphnie Dimwitty.

JustWait September 14th 11 02:51 PM

Wally-Mart in trouble locally
 
On 9/14/2011 9:28 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 9/14/2011 2:24 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:06:24 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:55:24 -0700,
wrote:

So, now you're going to have the barkeep prevent people who are
smoking, perhaps drunk people, walking in to the other area.
Thanks
for making MY point.

Why not?
The bar keep has lots of rules they enforce.

Feel free to talk to the bartender.

I am sure I know more bartenders than you do.
My wife employs about a dozen at the country club. They are the
bar
cops.

So, feel free to talk to them.
\

OK so you were full of ****.
BTW who do you think is there to enforce the smoking ban?
Same drunks, same cigarettes, the only difference is, instead of
having them move back to the smoking section you have to throw them
out. Great for business huh?

So, you're claiming that the bartenders are going to start
enforcing a
ban on smokers ranging all over the place?

We were talking about "INSIDE" that bar/restaurant
Do try to keep up ... or are you changing the subject yet again?

Huh? I'm taking about inside. "the bartenders are going to start
enforcing a ban on smokers ranging all over the place" What do you
think "place" means???


OK I apologize, "all over the place" confused me. If you mean all over
the inside of the bar, yes the bartender or the manager if they have
one will enforce the smoking regulations or any other rules in that
bar. If it is a tough place they also have bouncers..

I still don't get your question


I hope you're wife is going to pay them extra for their extra effort.
I can just imagine bartenders chasing after smokers... around and
around the table. In the mean time, everyone else gets to breathe the
smoke.


You don't chase them around, you tell them to put it out or leave. If
they don't leave you call the cops and charge them with trespassing.
Seriously, why is every argument from you so ridiculously overblown?


You can imagine bartenders chasing smoking hot women around the table.
That's reward enough, don't you think?




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