On 7/23/2011 9:29 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 9:02 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:38:36 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...

===

Twisted minds come from all backgrounds.


True, but...all of the events I mentioned in my post were killings
perpetrated by self-described conservatives.

So why are you targeting Christians instead of presenting the whole truth?

On 7/23/11 9:32 AM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/23/2011 9:29 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 9:02 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:38:36 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...

===

Twisted minds come from all backgrounds.


True, but...all of the events I mentioned in my post were killings
perpetrated by self-described conservatives.

So why are you targeting Christians instead of presenting the whole truth?


The terrorist events I mentioned were the work of conservatives, and
many of those were self-described christian conservatives. Ordinary
criminals usually don't describe themselves in terms of their religious
beliefs, if they have any. But the abortion doctor killers, the mass
murderer in Norway, et cetera, make a point of their christianity, just
like the muslim terrorists do.

The point is, there is something about conservativism and conservative
religious beliefs that leads some believers to commit terrorism.

But, hey, if you want to hide behind denial...it matters not.

On 7/23/2011 9:42 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 9:32 AM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/23/2011 9:29 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 9:02 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:38:36 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...

===

Twisted minds come from all backgrounds.


True, but...all of the events I mentioned in my post were killings
perpetrated by self-described conservatives.

So why are you targeting Christians instead of presenting the whole
truth?


The terrorist events I mentioned were the work of conservatives, and
many of those were self-described christian conservatives. Ordinary
criminals usually don't describe themselves in terms of their
religious beliefs, if they have any. But the abortion doctor killers,
the mass murderer in Norway, et cetera, make a point of their
christianity, just like the muslim terrorists do.

The point is, there is something about conservativism and conservative
religious beliefs that leads some believers to commit terrorism.

But, hey, if you want to hide behind denial...it matters not.

The only valid points your posts make is what a sick **** you are. Have
a nice day.
Maybe you could post some pics. of your new boat. Everyone posts
pictures of their *new* boats. I'm surprised you haven't

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:42:12 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

On 7/23/11 9:32 AM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/23/2011 9:29 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 9:02 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:38:36 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...

===

Twisted minds come from all backgrounds.


True, but...all of the events I mentioned in my post were killings
perpetrated by self-described conservatives.

So why are you targeting Christians instead of presenting the whole truth?


The terrorist events I mentioned were the work of conservatives, and
many of those were self-described christian conservatives. Ordinary
criminals usually don't describe themselves in terms of their religious
beliefs, if they have any. But the abortion doctor killers, the mass
murderer in Norway, et cetera, make a point of their christianity, just
like the muslim terrorists do.

The point is, there is something about conservativism and conservative
religious beliefs that leads some believers to commit terrorism.

But, hey, if you want to hide behind denial...it matters not.

They use their religious beliefs to justify their prejudice and
violence. This Norwegian is one sick ****.

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:02:41 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:38:36 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...

===

Twisted minds come from all backgrounds.

Yes, they do. However, you'll find that most of the people who own
guns and speak of violence, gov't overthrow and the like in this
country are on the far right. You don't get to many intellectuals (who
tend to be left of center) owning 10 guns and getting together to play
war games in nazi uniforms on the weekend.

In article f2f74b5d-6132-4d89-9943-cfb005287d08
@fv14g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says...

On Jul 23, 7:38*am, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In article 8478ea4f-5e44-48f9-a8af-749c28b3d1e9
@h18g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, says...











On Jul 23, 5:24*am, Harryk wrote:
On 7/23/11 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.

The majority of such terrorist attacks are perpetrated by political or
religious conservatives, whether they are blowing up camps in Norway,
Olympic games in Atlanta, abortion clinics and doctors anywhere, federal
office buildings in Oklahoma, the World Trade Center in New York.
There's something about "modern" conservatism that seems to attract
those who believe the terrorist approach is the only approach.

Yeah, I guess I'm guilty too. I assassinated 7 ground hogs this year
because I thought it was more my right to maintain my property that I
thought it was their right to dig it up. And oh my! *Just think of how
many mice I've poisoned. * But hey! I'm doing the Lords work, right?

It's a red herring Tim.. There are more people killed in the US all the
time by liberal robbers, rapists, and murders... Most of the folks
pulling those crimes, are not Christian or Conservative...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

I know, but it's obviously fun for some to profile and stereo-type
people to evidenly support and satisfy their thoughts about a race,
religion or group of others.....

The modern democrat party is the most intolerant, racist, bigoted
organized group in the history of the United States... That's a fact.

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.
I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, LilAbner wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.
I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.

He was certainly a right wing extremist.

Heck.. I'm a fiscal conservative.

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, LilAbner wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.

On 7/24/11 4:19 AM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 22:09:06 -0400, wrote:

On 7/23/2011 2:40 AM, jps wrote:

Whomever of you thought Tim McVeigh couldn't exist in Norway...

The 32-year-old Norwegian man who allegedly went on a shooting spree
on the island of Utoya has been identified as Anders Behring Breivik,
according to multiple reports.

The Daily Mail and Sky News were among those to report the suspect's
name. According to witnesses, the gunman was dressed as a police
officer and gunned down young people as they ran for their lives at a
youth camp.

Police said Friday evening that they've linked the youth camp shooting
and Oslo bombing. Breivik is believed to have acted alone.

Norwegian TV2 reports that Breivik belongs to "right-wing circles" in
Oslo. Swedish news site Expressen adds that he has been known to write
to right-wing forums in Norway, is a self-described nationalist and
has also written a number of posts critical of Islam.

A Twitter account for Breivik has surfaced, though it only has one
post, this quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a
belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests." The
tweet was posted on July 17.

On a Facebook account that Norwegian media outlets have attributed to
Breivik, he describes himself as having Christian, conservative views.
He says he enjoys hunting, the games World of Warcraft and Modern
Warfare 2, and lives in Oslo. He also lists political analysis and
stock analysis as interests.


I see this monster being labled "Conservative" to smear by association
anyone, in the US that adhears to the Constiution and the Republic and
American values.
This monster is being called a neo Nazi or Nazi. You aren't a
Conservative of any stripe if you are a Nazi or neo Nazi.
The terms Conservative and Nazi are not kindred or interchangeable.
Conservative Americans fought the Nazis. Liberal american fought the
Nazis. Communists partnered with Hitler for a while.
That monster is not Conservative.


I don't think he's "conservative" either but he does share a common
bond with American "conservatives" who are anti-immigration,
anti-Muslim and consider themselves Christian.

Please explain this.

The meaning of the term "conservative" in this country has changed
drastically since the days of Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and Reagan, and
even Goldwater, who was very conservative. Nowadays, it mostly describes
a political movement that has moved very far away from the middle to the
extreme right, and really has very little to do with "the Constitution,"
"the Republic," and "American values."

In addition to being anti-immigration and anti-Muslim, today's
conservative movement is not just anti-government spending, it is
anti-government. It also is anti-woman, anti-child, anti-middle class,
and is all about exclusionary politics and corporatism.

And while many of today's über-conservatives in this country may call
themselves christians, or hide behind the umbrella of christianity, it
is obvious they are *not* followers of the teachings of Jesus but are
only CINOs...christians in name only.