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[email protected] May 16th 11 07:06 AM

2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
 
On Mon, 16 May 2011 00:25:41 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 21:18:29 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

The fact is there are more Taliban now than there were in 2002 but the
vast majority of them have no interest in attacking the US, they just
want us out of their country, just like they wanted the Soviets out.
We somehow feel the need and the right to impose our culture on them
and they don't like it.


Well, in order to have less Taliban, you have to be prepared to kill them.

Or like cockroaches they can become a bigger problem.

I do think it best to leave, but after building a monument our of
concrete. It will read.

"Live in peace, do what you want inside your borders and we will ignore
your barbarism. But take your problems to us again, this will be ground
zero."

Put it right in-front of their capital buildings. And if they ause
trouble in the future, including frug trade, nuke'em. No need to spread
American and Canadian blood for a barbaric culture.


The point is the Taliban don't really care about us one way or the
other., If we get out they will chug along in their 10th century world
without giving us a second thought.
We are fighting their birth rate and we will never kill them all.
The taliban are against the drug trade, if that is your issue. The
drugs come from the people we support.


You're wrong. They will harbor terrorists, such as bin laden if we
don't make that unsustainable for them. We're in the process of doing
that in Afg.

We don't need to "kill them all." More nonsense.

[email protected] May 16th 11 07:07 AM

2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
 
On Sun, 15 May 2011 22:48:04 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 15/05/2011 10:25 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 21:18:29 -0600,
wrote:

The fact is there are more Taliban now than there were in 2002 but the
vast majority of them have no interest in attacking the US, they just
want us out of their country, just like they wanted the Soviets out.
We somehow feel the need and the right to impose our culture on them
and they don't like it.

Well, in order to have less Taliban, you have to be prepared to kill them.

Or like cockroaches they can become a bigger problem.

I do think it best to leave, but after building a monument our of
concrete. It will read.

"Live in peace, do what you want inside your borders and we will ignore
your barbarism. But take your problems to us again, this will be ground
zero."

Put it right in-front of their capital buildings. And if they ause
trouble in the future, including frug trade, nuke'em. No need to spread
American and Canadian blood for a barbaric culture.


The point is the Taliban don't really care about us one way or the
other., If we get out they will chug along in their 10th century world
without giving us a second thought.
We are fighting their birth rate and we will never kill them all.
The taliban are against the drug trade, if that is your issue. The
drugs come from the people we support.


Agreed. But once US laves, taliban will be back in inside of 30 days
from the last regiment leaving.

We could kill them all trivially. But it is best to let them do it to
themselves. Strike up a covert war with Iran or something, last time
that happened they killed off a million or so, Muslim against Muslim,
and wounded/crippled some 2 million more.

Best way to fight Islamic fundi-crack heads is to get them to fight each
other. Like Iran/Iraq war. Harvard conflict management principle here,
get them to hate each other and they will hate you less.

Then they will pump oil so they can buy firearms. Strike a covert deal
with the Russians. Russian sell to Iran, US sells to Iraq and win-win.
Do the same for Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Best part, in the end they will not blame the US or Canada for the massacre.


Wow... an idiot agrees with someone.

[email protected] May 16th 11 07:08 AM

2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
 
On Mon, 16 May 2011 00:33:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 23:36:49 -0400, wf3h wrote:

http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpictur...Rep&Cycle=2008

Wow, great list. Shows the union corruption.


amount of money unions took out of the US economy in the last 3 years:

zero

amount wall street did?

10 trillion.

Most of that money never existed in the first place. It was created
out of thin air by Wall Street to fund the housing market and the
construction unions got plenty of that money. The problem wasn't where
the money went, it was what happened when the people who bought that
paper and actually thought it was real, tried to cash it in.

It is a similar situation with the SS bonds.


There is no "similar situation" wrt to SS.

[email protected] May 16th 11 07:09 AM

2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
 
On Sun, 15 May 2011 23:56:48 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 13:09:46 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


Have you ever googled Santorum? ;-)


Yes. And that's as sick as Santorum.
Just shows how low we are.
All poison, little common sense.


That was actually Savage and his gay mafia that google bombed
Santorum.


You're defending Santorum??? Now that's funny!

Harryk May 16th 11 11:15 AM

2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
 
Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/05/2011 11:32 AM, Harryk wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:11:21 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:

As for Obama, he is far more vulnerable from the left than he is from
the right.That is why the right has to come up with such stupid stuff
to oppose him like the birther bull****.
A guy like Bernie Sanders could seriously hurt him in a primary if he
tried. The dems are just happy to keep their name on the white house,
even if the guy there is a big business republican in democrat
clothing.

Bernie Sanders isn't going to challenge Obama for the nomination.
Period.

The "right" comes up with the birther **** because the base of the GOP
is composed of racist leftovers from the Southern Strategy days. The
righties down at the bottom of the intellectual scale are easy to
manipulate by the Trumps, the Palins, et cetera. Look at who the
birthers *here* have been...the intellectual ciphers who couldn't get
into an open admissions community college.


I just picked Sanders because he seems to be the moral left of your
party. I am not sure who else would qualify. That was my point. When
you have neocons like Hillary and Schumer in leadership positions it
is hard to tell the difference between democrats and republicans if
you don't look at the superficial diversions.
Obama has even ducked the guns and god issues so you are really only
left with abortion and gays. They may bring out emotional responses on
both sides but nobody is going to say either of them is what brought
down the republic.
I think the real power brokers are so happy with the way things are
going they are not really interested in beating Obama so they keep
sending clowns like Trump and Palin to the front of the pack.
That is why I say he may be the most vulnerable from the left ... if
the left actually wanted change.

In that regard you might actually find someone from the Libertarian
side of the world who could rally the people who want to see something
change. I really think the debt is going to shrink the size and scope
of government so you will not have that one to fight about.
In social issues you are probably closer to Ron Paul than you are to
most democrats and he is on the kooky side of libertarian. Even with
that Chris Matthews says he agrees with the Paul foreign policy.



There's no way I could support libertarians like the Pauls who oppose
the Civil Rights Act of 1964 because it places human rights ahead of
property rights. And, while I find Ron Paul charming if uninformed on
many significant issues, I think his son Rand is bat**** crazy, and
totally without charm.

Further, I favor a single payer system.

So, which libertarian should I support?

:)


Why don't you just say you are a selfish envious ******* that believes
everyone should have nothing because you have nothing and botched your
life.

Or, can we Obamasize government and Obama-debt so my grandkids can pay
for my sorry ass with interest.

You don't want your kids to have a chance at economic freedom because
you worship government like a god. Hey, maybe you want to submit to
statism, you should have gone to an Islamic country.

Try Ron Paul, give the children a chance at life without government
taking 60% of their check for losers that can't manage their lives. Time
to let darwin teach some lessons.



You make no more sense than our little uneducated bigot, Snotty Ingersoll.

Ron Paul...what a joke.

True North[_3_] May 16th 11 02:52 PM

2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
 


"I_am_Tosk" wrote in message
...


You call the tin hat, hyperbole you spew here a "response".. You are
bat**** crazy...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

*************

Boy.......... if imitation really is the sincerest form of flattery, you
sure do have a 'hard-on' for Harry.
No wonder you want to see him this summer..... that puppy love can be
overpowering.


Harryk May 16th 11 02:54 PM

2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
 
True North wrote:


"I_am_Tosk" wrote in message
...


You call the tin hat, hyperbole you spew here a "response".. You are
bat**** crazy...



You think the little turd can still get a woody? And, if he did, would
it be noticeable? :)

Hairy Kraut May 16th 11 03:16 PM

2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
 
In article , princecraft51
@gmail.com says...

"I_am_Tosk" wrote in message
...


You call the tin hat, hyperbole you spew here a "response".. You are
bat**** crazy...


This from the asshole that constantly follows Harry around replying to
every post he makes.

I_am_Tosk May 16th 11 03:31 PM

2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
 
In article ,
says...

In article , princecraft51
@gmail.com says...

"I_am_Tosk" wrote in message
...


You call the tin hat, hyperbole you spew here a "response".. You are
bat**** crazy...


This from the asshole that constantly follows Harry around replying to
every post he makes.


Uh, I rarely address the little pigs directly anymore. I am too busy
preparing to bury my MIL and holding fast to my girls during their time
of need, and helping The Mouse keep her eye on the ball... Harry and
Bonnie the pig are just trying to get somebody to pay attention, as they
just don't get the attention they need at home.
--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

Boating All Out May 16th 11 03:35 PM

2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
 
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 15 May 2011 23:36:49 -0400, wf3h wrote:

http://www.opensecrets.org/bigpictur...Rep&Cycle=2008

Wow, great list. Shows the union corruption.


amount of money unions took out of the US economy in the last 3 years:

zero

amount wall street did?

10 trillion.

Most of that money never existed in the first place. It was created
out of thin air by Wall Street to fund the housing market and the
construction unions got plenty of that money. The problem wasn't where
the money went, it was what happened when the people who bought that
paper and actually thought it was real, tried to cash it in.


The Wall Street money was real for plenty.
Speculative investments are just that. No guarantees.
But many did well and continue to do so.
You'll note that the DOW is near previous highs.
And real estate has always been speculative.
Plenty flipped houses and made out like bandits.
Others, many who simply wanted a home to live in, bought a tulip future.

It is a similar situation with the SS bonds.


Government backed securities are guaranteed. It is the soundest
investment, because the government can levy taxes and print money.
And they certainly care about their reputation, so they won't default.
Besides, for public debt, they have the voters to contend with.
Here's a readable pdf of government debt.
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/r...opdm042011.pdf

BTW, just using common sense, if SS benefits are reduced, what money
will replace it?
For those who who have no other funds, they will go on some form of
public aid, food stamps, etc, maybe populate gullies and culverts with
homeless old people.
Either taxes will be raised or social unrest will ensue.
But what of all those who own Wall Street securities or financial
institute CD's?
They'll cash out. No other choice.
It would be the biggest run on stocks and banks since the depression,
but drawn out for years and years.
So even Wall Street doesn't want SS cut, certainly not for those who are
more likely to cash in securities to replace the lost income.
They will mitigate for higher payroll and income taxes, but try to
protect capital gains and SS benefits.
And Wall Street is well represented in the government.
You're barking up the wrong tree.









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