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2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
Ron Paul, the Texas congressman, declared his (third) candidacy for
president Friday on ‘Good Morning America.’ The ‘intellectual grandfather’ of the tea party movement is a constitutional purist who’s as popular among his fervent followers as he is disliked by the GOP establishment. He’s a dark horse pushing for an upset victory. - - - Ah, yes...Crazy Ron...about as much chance of winning the presidency as, say, Newt, the Donald, the Sara, the Michele, the Mitt, et cetera. |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On Fri, 13 May 2011 12:29:20 -0400, Harryk
sent the following message Ron Paul, the Texas congressman, declared his (third) candidacy for president Friday on ‘Good Morning America.’ The ‘intellectual grandfather’ of the tea party movement is a constitutional purist who’s as popular among his fervent followers as he is disliked by the GOP establishment. He’s a dark horse pushing for an upset victory. - - - Ah, yes...Crazy Ron...about as much chance of winning the presidency as, say, Newt, the Donald, the Sara, the Michele, the Mitt, et cetera. It seems everybody wants to get in on the movement to neuter BHO. |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
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2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
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On Fri, 13 May 2011 15:03:23 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:21:39 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 12:58:50 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 12:29:20 -0400, sent the following message Ron Paul, the Texas congressman, declared his (third) candidacy for president Friday on ‘Good Morning America.’ The ‘intellectual grandfather’ of the tea party movement is a constitutional purist who’s as popular among his fervent followers as he is disliked by the GOP establishment. He’s a dark horse pushing for an upset victory. - - - Ah, yes...Crazy Ron...about as much chance of winning the presidency as, say, Newt, the Donald, the Sara, the Michele, the Mitt, et cetera. It seems everybody wants to get in on the movement to neuter BHO. This is just making Obama stronger. If there is a split field he can win with 40-45% (like Clinton in 92 with 43%) I bet we see an establishment GOP candidate like Romney and a 3d party running someone like Gary Johnson (NM). Ron Paul will not be a serious candidate I think the GOP has written this cycle off too, just like they did in 08. They are still looking for a credible candidate. They really need to find a Latino in 16 who can make the bankers happy and still appeals to the redneck base. He will have to be able to speak English without an accent and still be able to put commercials on Univision/Telemundo in perfect Spanish. The rednecks won't have a clue what he is telling them unless they can figure out the SAP feature on their cable box. Actually the more I think about this, it is more like 96. The GOP will put up the next guy in line, not expecting him to win (again think Romney) but much like Clinton, if you are a big money republican, you won't do much better for yourself than the guy you have now. Think about what the fat cats got out of Clinton in his second term. They got tax cuts, an import treaty that was great for WalMart., a booming stock market and shredded most of FDRs financial regulation. They would not have gotten that out of Dole, Too many democrats would fight it. The fat cats are thrilled with Obama. So far Obama has restored their tax cuts, cut the FICA tax, continued the Bush bailout, kept the lucrative wars going, started a new war, passed a financial regulation bill that didn't really regulate much (we still have too big to fail) and passed health reform that will make the health care industry a lot more money. Why would they ever want to see him go? The demographic changes coming in this country do not favor the Republicans. That really depends on who the republicans want to be in 2016. It is interesting to me that Obama is a lot more vulnerable from the left than he is from the right but those people are committed to vote democratic, no matter how badly they get screwed and lied to. I do not see any real primary challenge from the left this time. That is one reason I think the GOP is ducking this year. They are hoping the 2016 will end up being a food fight on the left that leaves room for a centrist candidate with a little broader appeal than they get with the white guys they have been running. I do believe that by then the days of denial about the debt and deficit will be over and that will be the main issue. I am just not sure what the magic bullet will be to fix a 2 trillion dollar problem and I bet the deficit will be that big if we keep kicking this can down the road. Our current $420 billion dollar interest payment could easily be well over a trillion by then. That would be over $3000 for every man woman and child in the country Well, I don't see the GOP nominating a "centrist" candidate, unless we totally redefine centrist. The party is in the hands of those who dislike blacks, latinos, gays, and non-christians, with an overlay of birthers and teaparty types who, forgive me, are pretty much bat**** crazy. The GOP won't even have "defense" to fall back upon, since it was under the Obama administration that we did what the Republican administration could not do...catch Osama. Add in the GOP proposal to dump medicare... What does that all add up to? Pretty much the end of GOP aspirations for the White House for a long time to come, and possible loss of the U.S. House in 2012. But that is a long shot. |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
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On Fri, 13 May 2011 16:14:26 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 15:03:23 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:21:39 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 12:58:50 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 12:29:20 -0400, sent the following message Ron Paul, the Texas congressman, declared his (third) candidacy for president Friday on ‘Good Morning America.’ The ‘intellectual grandfather’ of the tea party movement is a constitutional purist who’s as popular among his fervent followers as he is disliked by the GOP establishment. He’s a dark horse pushing for an upset victory. - - - Ah, yes...Crazy Ron...about as much chance of winning the presidency as, say, Newt, the Donald, the Sara, the Michele, the Mitt, et cetera. It seems everybody wants to get in on the movement to neuter BHO. This is just making Obama stronger. If there is a split field he can win with 40-45% (like Clinton in 92 with 43%) I bet we see an establishment GOP candidate like Romney and a 3d party running someone like Gary Johnson (NM). Ron Paul will not be a serious candidate I think the GOP has written this cycle off too, just like they did in 08. They are still looking for a credible candidate. They really need to find a Latino in 16 who can make the bankers happy and still appeals to the redneck base. He will have to be able to speak English without an accent and still be able to put commercials on Univision/Telemundo in perfect Spanish. The rednecks won't have a clue what he is telling them unless they can figure out the SAP feature on their cable box. Actually the more I think about this, it is more like 96. The GOP will put up the next guy in line, not expecting him to win (again think Romney) but much like Clinton, if you are a big money republican, you won't do much better for yourself than the guy you have now. Think about what the fat cats got out of Clinton in his second term. They got tax cuts, an import treaty that was great for WalMart., a booming stock market and shredded most of FDRs financial regulation. They would not have gotten that out of Dole, Too many democrats would fight it. The fat cats are thrilled with Obama. So far Obama has restored their tax cuts, cut the FICA tax, continued the Bush bailout, kept the lucrative wars going, started a new war, passed a financial regulation bill that didn't really regulate much (we still have too big to fail) and passed health reform that will make the health care industry a lot more money. Why would they ever want to see him go? The demographic changes coming in this country do not favor the Republicans. That really depends on who the republicans want to be in 2016. It is interesting to me that Obama is a lot more vulnerable from the left than he is from the right but those people are committed to vote democratic, no matter how badly they get screwed and lied to. I do not see any real primary challenge from the left this time. That is one reason I think the GOP is ducking this year. They are hoping the 2016 will end up being a food fight on the left that leaves room for a centrist candidate with a little broader appeal than they get with the white guys they have been running. I do believe that by then the days of denial about the debt and deficit will be over and that will be the main issue. I am just not sure what the magic bullet will be to fix a 2 trillion dollar problem and I bet the deficit will be that big if we keep kicking this can down the road. Our current $420 billion dollar interest payment could easily be well over a trillion by then. That would be over $3000 for every man woman and child in the country Well, I don't see the GOP nominating a "centrist" candidate, unless we totally redefine centrist. The party is in the hands of those who dislike blacks, latinos, gays, and non-christians, with an overlay of birthers and teaparty types who, forgive me, are pretty much bat**** crazy. The GOP won't even have "defense" to fall back upon, since it was under the Obama administration that we did what the Republican administration could not do...catch Osama. Add in the GOP proposal to dump medicare... What does that all add up to? Pretty much the end of GOP aspirations for the White House for a long time to come, and possible loss of the U.S. House in 2012. But that is a long shot. By 2016 we are going to be taking long hard looks at SS and Medicare. The answer is to cut back military spending, raise taxes on the wealthy, go after medicare fraud. |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On 13/05/2011 10:29 AM, Harryk wrote:
Ron Paul, the Texas congressman, declared his (third) candidacy for president Friday on ‘Good Morning America.’ The ‘intellectual grandfather’ of the tea party movement is a constitutional purist who’s as popular among his fervent followers as he is disliked by the GOP establishment. He’s a dark horse pushing for an upset victory. - - - Ah, yes...Crazy Ron...about as much chance of winning the presidency as, say, Newt, the Donald, the Sara, the Michele, the Mitt, et cetera. Hey, we tried it the liberal debt and spend way. All to show for it is a whole lot of ongoing forclosures, and more than $4 trillion in more DEBT (so far as more is coming). I would say ABO, Anyone But Obama. Or should we use ABBO, Anybody But Barack Obama? -- Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance? |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On Fri, 13 May 2011 12:29:20 -0400, Harryk
wrote: Ron Paul, the Texas congressman, declared his (third) candidacy for president Friday on ‘Good Morning America.’ The ‘intellectual grandfather’ of the tea party movement is a constitutional purist who’s as popular among his fervent followers as he is disliked by the GOP establishment. He’s a dark horse pushing for an upset victory. - - - Ah, yes...Crazy Ron...about as much chance of winning the presidency as, say, Newt, the Donald, the Sara, the Michele, the Mitt, et cetera. the GOP is so far right that ronald reagan would be unelectable today. |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
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2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On Fri, 13 May 2011 23:06:22 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 13/05/2011 10:29 AM, Harryk wrote: Ron Paul, the Texas congressman, declared his (third) candidacy for president Friday on ‘Good Morning America.’ The ‘intellectual grandfather’ of the tea party movement is a constitutional purist who’s as popular among his fervent followers as he is disliked by the GOP establishment. He’s a dark horse pushing for an upset victory. - - - Ah, yes...Crazy Ron...about as much chance of winning the presidency as, say, Newt, the Donald, the Sara, the Michele, the Mitt, et cetera. Hey, we tried it the liberal debt and spend way. were reagan and bush liberals? they were the biggest spenders in US history except canuks' too right wing to know histotry All to show for it is a whole lot of ongoing forclosures, and more than $4 trillion in more DEBT (so far as more is coming). I would say ABO, Anyone But Obama. he'd really say ABABP...anyone but a black person Or should we use ABBO, Anybody But Barack Obama? |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wf3h sent the
following message he'd really say ABABP...anyone but a black person No. That's what you say. The fact that he is black seems to be your only counter to critisism of him. You and plume are the only ones playing that card anymore. Even Krause seems to have smartened up and moved away from that dumb defensive tactic. |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On Sat, 14 May 2011 03:59:01 -0400, wf3h sent the
following message On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:59:44 -0400, wrote: Think about what the fat cats got out of Clinton in his second term. They got tax cuts, an import treaty that was great for WalMart., a booming stock market and shredded most of FDRs financial regulation. They would not have gotten that out of Dole, Too many democrats would fight it. The fat cats are thrilled with Obama. So far Obama has restored their tax cuts, cut the FICA tax, continued the Bush bailout, kept the lucrative wars going, started a new war, passed a financial regulation bill that didn't really regulate much (we still have too big to fail) and passed health reform that will make the health care industry a lot more money. Why would they ever want to see him go? after the US right has had 30 years of fundamentalist deregulaory plutocracy, they havent left obama much choice. this is america when the right wing wins. you are bat**** crazy bob but you already know that |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
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2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On Sat, 14 May 2011 00:01:01 -0400, sent the
following message On Fri, 13 May 2011 16:37:52 -0400, Harryk wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 16:14:26 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 15:03:23 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:21:39 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 12:58:50 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 12:29:20 -0400, sent the following message Ron Paul, the Texas congressman, declared his (third) candidacy for president Friday on ‘Good Morning America.’ The ‘intellectual grandfather’ of the tea party movement is a constitutional purist who’s as popular among his fervent followers as he is disliked by the GOP establishment. He’s a dark horse pushing for an upset victory. - - - Ah, yes...Crazy Ron...about as much chance of winning the presidency as, say, Newt, the Donald, the Sara, the Michele, the Mitt, et cetera. It seems everybody wants to get in on the movement to neuter BHO. This is just making Obama stronger. If there is a split field he can win with 40-45% (like Clinton in 92 with 43%) I bet we see an establishment GOP candidate like Romney and a 3d party running someone like Gary Johnson (NM). Ron Paul will not be a serious candidate I think the GOP has written this cycle off too, just like they did in 08. They are still looking for a credible candidate. They really need to find a Latino in 16 who can make the bankers happy and still appeals to the redneck base. He will have to be able to speak English without an accent and still be able to put commercials on Univision/Telemundo in perfect Spanish. The rednecks won't have a clue what he is telling them unless they can figure out the SAP feature on their cable box. Actually the more I think about this, it is more like 96. The GOP will put up the next guy in line, not expecting him to win (again think Romney) but much like Clinton, if you are a big money republican, you won't do much better for yourself than the guy you have now. Think about what the fat cats got out of Clinton in his second term. They got tax cuts, an import treaty that was great for WalMart., a booming stock market and shredded most of FDRs financial regulation. They would not have gotten that out of Dole, Too many democrats would fight it. The fat cats are thrilled with Obama. So far Obama has restored their tax cuts, cut the FICA tax, continued the Bush bailout, kept the lucrative wars going, started a new war, passed a financial regulation bill that didn't really regulate much (we still have too big to fail) and passed health reform that will make the health care industry a lot more money. Why would they ever want to see him go? The demographic changes coming in this country do not favor the Republicans. That really depends on who the republicans want to be in 2016. It is interesting to me that Obama is a lot more vulnerable from the left than he is from the right but those people are committed to vote democratic, no matter how badly they get screwed and lied to. I do not see any real primary challenge from the left this time. That is one reason I think the GOP is ducking this year. They are hoping the 2016 will end up being a food fight on the left that leaves room for a centrist candidate with a little broader appeal than they get with the white guys they have been running. I do believe that by then the days of denial about the debt and deficit will be over and that will be the main issue. I am just not sure what the magic bullet will be to fix a 2 trillion dollar problem and I bet the deficit will be that big if we keep kicking this can down the road. Our current $420 billion dollar interest payment could easily be well over a trillion by then. That would be over $3000 for every man woman and child in the country Well, I don't see the GOP nominating a "centrist" candidate, unless we totally redefine centrist. The party is in the hands of those who dislike blacks, latinos, gays, and non-christians, with an overlay of birthers and teaparty types who, forgive me, are pretty much bat**** crazy. The GOP won't even have "defense" to fall back upon, since it was under the Obama administration that we did what the Republican administration could not do...catch Osama. Add in the GOP proposal to dump medicare... What does that all add up to? Pretty much the end of GOP aspirations for the White House for a long time to come, and possible loss of the U.S. House in 2012. But that is a long shot. By 2016 we are going to be taking long hard looks at SS and Medicare. The answer is to cut back military spending, raise taxes on the wealthy, go after medicare fraud. That might be a start in the right direction but Medicare and SS are twice all of Military spending and there simply are not enough rich people to make up the rest. Medicare/SS payments are going to double in a decade when the first cohort of the boomers hits the system I have to agree with Harry. We need to bring our troops home then stop funding Obama's wars. 2nd, we need to attack wasteful spending, fraud, theft, and corruption in Washington. None of this will happen until ws stop eletcting crooked politicans. |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
Canuck57 wrote:
On 13/05/2011 10:29 AM, Harryk wrote: Ron Paul, the Texas congressman, declared his (third) candidacy for president Friday on ‘Good Morning America.’ The ‘intellectual grandfather’ of the tea party movement is a constitutional purist who’s as popular among his fervent followers as he is disliked by the GOP establishment. He’s a dark horse pushing for an upset victory. - - - Ah, yes...Crazy Ron...about as much chance of winning the presidency as, say, Newt, the Donald, the Sara, the Michele, the Mitt, et cetera. Hey, we tried it the liberal debt and spend way. All to show for it is a whole lot of ongoing forclosures, and more than $4 trillion in more DEBT (so far as more is coming). I would say ABO, Anyone But Obama. You don't have a say, dickwad. |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
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On Fri, 13 May 2011 16:37:52 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 16:14:26 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 15:03:23 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:21:39 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 12:58:50 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2011 12:29:20 -0400, sent the following message Ron Paul, the Texas congressman, declared his (third) candidacy for president Friday on ‘Good Morning America.’ The ‘intellectual grandfather’ of the tea party movement is a constitutional purist who’s as popular among his fervent followers as he is disliked by the GOP establishment. He’s a dark horse pushing for an upset victory. - - - Ah, yes...Crazy Ron...about as much chance of winning the presidency as, say, Newt, the Donald, the Sara, the Michele, the Mitt, et cetera. It seems everybody wants to get in on the movement to neuter BHO. This is just making Obama stronger. If there is a split field he can win with 40-45% (like Clinton in 92 with 43%) I bet we see an establishment GOP candidate like Romney and a 3d party running someone like Gary Johnson (NM). Ron Paul will not be a serious candidate I think the GOP has written this cycle off too, just like they did in 08. They are still looking for a credible candidate. They really need to find a Latino in 16 who can make the bankers happy and still appeals to the redneck base. He will have to be able to speak English without an accent and still be able to put commercials on Univision/Telemundo in perfect Spanish. The rednecks won't have a clue what he is telling them unless they can figure out the SAP feature on their cable box. Actually the more I think about this, it is more like 96. The GOP will put up the next guy in line, not expecting him to win (again think Romney) but much like Clinton, if you are a big money republican, you won't do much better for yourself than the guy you have now. Think about what the fat cats got out of Clinton in his second term. They got tax cuts, an import treaty that was great for WalMart., a booming stock market and shredded most of FDRs financial regulation. They would not have gotten that out of Dole, Too many democrats would fight it. The fat cats are thrilled with Obama. So far Obama has restored their tax cuts, cut the FICA tax, continued the Bush bailout, kept the lucrative wars going, started a new war, passed a financial regulation bill that didn't really regulate much (we still have too big to fail) and passed health reform that will make the health care industry a lot more money. Why would they ever want to see him go? The demographic changes coming in this country do not favor the Republicans. That really depends on who the republicans want to be in 2016. It is interesting to me that Obama is a lot more vulnerable from the left than he is from the right but those people are committed to vote democratic, no matter how badly they get screwed and lied to. I do not see any real primary challenge from the left this time. That is one reason I think the GOP is ducking this year. They are hoping the 2016 will end up being a food fight on the left that leaves room for a centrist candidate with a little broader appeal than they get with the white guys they have been running. I do believe that by then the days of denial about the debt and deficit will be over and that will be the main issue. I am just not sure what the magic bullet will be to fix a 2 trillion dollar problem and I bet the deficit will be that big if we keep kicking this can down the road. Our current $420 billion dollar interest payment could easily be well over a trillion by then. That would be over $3000 for every man woman and child in the country Well, I don't see the GOP nominating a "centrist" candidate, unless we totally redefine centrist. The party is in the hands of those who dislike blacks, latinos, gays, and non-christians, with an overlay of birthers and teaparty types who, forgive me, are pretty much bat**** crazy. The GOP won't even have "defense" to fall back upon, since it was under the Obama administration that we did what the Republican administration could not do...catch Osama. Add in the GOP proposal to dump medicare... What does that all add up to? Pretty much the end of GOP aspirations for the White House for a long time to come, and possible loss of the U.S. House in 2012. But that is a long shot. By 2016 we are going to be taking long hard looks at SS and Medicare. The answer is to cut back military spending, raise taxes on the wealthy, go after medicare fraud. That might be a start in the right direction but Medicare and SS are twice all of Military spending and there simply are not enough rich people to make up the rest. Medicare/SS payments are going to double in a decade when the first cohort of the boomers hits the system Well, then, we are going to have to restructure in order to accommodate them, aren't way? It's too bad we spent and wasted trillions of dollars on the military and military adventurism since the 1960s. We should have used that money to implement national health care and methods to hold down the costs of medical care. We should be much, much farther along than we are today. |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On Sat, 14 May 2011 06:00:45 -0400, Harryk
sent the following message Canuck57 wrote: On 13/05/2011 10:29 AM, Harryk wrote: Ron Paul, the Texas congressman, declared his (third) candidacy for president Friday on ‘Good Morning America.’ The ‘intellectual grandfather’ of the tea party movement is a constitutional purist who’s as popular among his fervent followers as he is disliked by the GOP establishment. He’s a dark horse pushing for an upset victory. - - - Ah, yes...Crazy Ron...about as much chance of winning the presidency as, say, Newt, the Donald, the Sara, the Michele, the Mitt, et cetera. Hey, we tried it the liberal debt and spend way. All to show for it is a whole lot of ongoing forclosures, and more than $4 trillion in more DEBT (so far as more is coming). I would say ABO, Anyone But Obama. You don't have a say, dickwad. As much say as you, eh. At least as far as this forum goes. Canadians have every reason to be concerned about US politics and politicans. Especialy our beloved BHO. |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:59:10 -0400, Percy wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 03:59:01 -0400, wf3h sent the following message On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:59:44 -0400, wrote: after the US right has had 30 years of fundamentalist deregulaory plutocracy, they havent left obama much choice. this is america when the right wing wins. you are bat**** crazy bob but you already know that and that's about the level of response one gets when one challenges the urban myths of the right |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:48:34 -0400, Percy wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wf3h sent the following message he'd really say ABABP...anyone but a black person No. That's what you say. The fact that he is black seems to be your only counter to critisism of him. You and plume are the only ones playing that card anymore. Even Krause seems to have smartened up and moved away from that dumb defensive tactic. of course it is. because it's true. given that bush wrecked this economy, killed 4400 US troops and turned our economy over to wall street, the efforts on the right to blame this all on the black guy has an obvious motive you, of course, have no rebuttal at all |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On Sat, 14 May 2011 07:59:34 -0400, Percy wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 06:00:45 -0400, Harryk sent the following message Canuck57 wrote: I would say ABO, Anyone But Obama. You don't have a say, dickwad. As much say as you, eh. At least as far as this forum goes. Canadians have every reason to be concerned about US politics and politicans. Especialy our beloved BHO. i agree. after all it was BHO who killed 4400 US troops in iraq oh. wait that was bush BUT it was obama who spent a TRILLION in iraq oh. wait...bush uh...it was OBAMA who started the depression...oh...hold on...it was bush yeah i can see why you think BHO is a failure |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On 14/05/2011 10:32 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:59:10 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 03:59:01 -0400, sent the following message On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:59:44 -0400, wrote: after the US right has had 30 years of fundamentalist deregulaory plutocracy, they havent left obama much choice. this is america when the right wing wins. you are bat**** crazy bob but you already know that and that's about the level of response one gets when one challenges the urban myths of the right For fleabagger fear? -- Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance? |
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2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On Sat, 14 May 2011 12:32:17 -0400, wf3h sent the
following message On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:59:10 -0400, Percy wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 03:59:01 -0400, wf3h sent the following message On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:59:44 -0400, wrote: after the US right has had 30 years of fundamentalist deregulaory plutocracy, they havent left obama much choice. this is america when the right wing wins. you are bat**** crazy bob but you already know that and that's about the level of response one gets when one challenges the urban myths of the right Urban myths of the right? Are you nuts? You make as much sense as your fruitcake buddy Plume. |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
On Sat, 14 May 2011 12:33:17 -0400, wf3h sent the
following message On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:48:34 -0400, Percy wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wf3h sent the following message he'd really say ABABP...anyone but a black person No. That's what you say. The fact that he is black seems to be your only counter to critisism of him. You and plume are the only ones playing that card anymore. Even Krause seems to have smartened up and moved away from that dumb defensive tactic. of course it is. because it's true. given that bush wrecked this economy, killed 4400 US troops and turned our economy over to wall street, the efforts on the right to blame this all on the black guy has an obvious motive you, of course, have no rebuttal at all Show a litte respect bob. His name isn't "the black guy". It's obsama.. |
2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
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2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
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says... On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:59:10 -0400, Percy wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 03:59:01 -0400, wf3h sent the following message On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:59:44 -0400, wrote: after the US right has had 30 years of fundamentalist deregulaory plutocracy, they havent left obama much choice. this is america when the right wing wins. you are bat**** crazy bob but you already know that and that's about the level of response one gets when one challenges the urban myths of the right You call the tin hat, hyperbole you spew here a "response".. You are bat**** crazy... -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! |
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Anybody but Obama, 2012!!
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2nd Kook Seeks GOP Nomination
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Anybody but Obama, 2012!!
On Sat, 14 May 2011 14:34:44 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 14 May 2011 07:59:34 -0400, Percy wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 06:00:45 -0400, Harryk sent the following message Canuck57 wrote: BUT it was obama who spent a TRILLION in iraq oh. wait...bush uh...it was OBAMA who started the depression...oh...hold on...it was bush yeah i can see why you think BHO is a failure It was President Bush that told us he wanted to keep gas prices high to feed General Electric, oh wait, that was President Obama... actually he didnt but it's nice of you to try a brazen lie...typical of the right It was President Bush's advisor who said "never let a good disaster go to waste" (in reference to the gulf coast oil spill, oh wait, that was President Obama's aide. ah. an aide. and what did the right say about obama? he was being too hard on BP! they insisted he apologize to the poor, innocent oil company It was President Bush who Bowed to the Arab Sheik THIS is what you get from the right bush kills over 4000 troops but they're ****ed because obama does some imagined 'bow' , and a few others, shut down drilling all over the country he did, of cousre, no such thing, but the right is FURIOUS because they believe the middle class should be SERFS in the control of oil companies It was President Bush who promised to shut down gitmo HAHAHAHAAH why didnt obama shut gitmo BECAUSE THE RIGHT WOULD NOT PERMIT IT , get us out of Afghanistan, ANOTHER LIE obama NEVER...repeat NEVER promised to 'get us out of afghanistan'. what he DID say is that we would be there until it was safe for us to leave but the RIGHT LIES about obama because he's BLACK what an incredible moron obama shakes the hand of an arab leader and they're OUTRAGED bush MURDERS US troops and they shrug their shoulder and ask how it benefits the rich |
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On Sat, 14 May 2011 13:37:31 -0400, Percy wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 12:32:17 -0400, wf3h sent the following message On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:59:10 -0400, Percy wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 03:59:01 -0400, wf3h sent the following message On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:59:44 -0400, wrote: after the US right has had 30 years of fundamentalist deregulaory plutocracy, they havent left obama much choice. this is america when the right wing wins. you are bat**** crazy bob but you already know that and that's about the level of response one gets when one challenges the urban myths of the right Urban myths of the right? Are you nuts? You make as much sense as your fruitcake buddy Plume. would you like me to list the asshole beliefs you and the right have? |
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On Sat, 14 May 2011 14:25:43 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:48:34 -0400, Percy wrote: c. of course it is. because it's true. given that bush wrecked this economy, killed 4400 US troops and turned our economy over to wall street, the efforts on the right to blame this all on the black guy has an obvious motive you, of course, have no rebuttal at all Yeah, Bush (sic) shot 4400 people. When you begin a response with total nonsense, nobody is going to take anything you say seriously. gee. you say it's nonsense. your proof? because 1. bush LIED about the WMD's in iraq. he KNEW it was a lie 2. 4400 US troops DIED as a result of that lie so tell me, right winger, WHY is it 'nonsense'? oh. you cant. you simply cant believe bush, a rich, white guy would lie The only President who has gone out and assinated anybody is President Obama GREAT! he had the BALLS to do what BUSH REFUSED to do bush let osama get away obama killed him yet the right insists obama is a coward why? .. The biggest difference between President Bush and President Obama is PB went after Islamic terrorists, PO is setting up Israel for another holocaust... The 4400 you keep talking about will be a drop in the bucket. HAHAHAHAH obama KILLED bin laden while bush let him get away and the right IGNORES that and claims bush killed terrorists! BBWAHAHAHAHA!! |
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On Sat, 14 May 2011 14:36:15 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wf3h wrote: were reagan and bush liberals? they were the biggest spenders in US history They certainly were not fiscal conservatives And they weren't the biggest spenders in history. President Obams passed them in the first year! wrong. bush's last budget had a deficit of 1.2 TRILLION. but he's white...so we can't blame him This reminds me of the news. Progressives make so many inaccurate representations in one sentence or point, you just can't address them all... HAHAHAHA and you notice he LIES about bush then blames the black guy! |
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On Sat, 14 May 2011 14:55:43 -0400, wf3h sent the
following message On Sat, 14 May 2011 13:37:31 -0400, Percy wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 12:32:17 -0400, wf3h sent the following message On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:59:10 -0400, Percy wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 03:59:01 -0400, wf3h sent the following message On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:59:44 -0400, wrote: after the US right has had 30 years of fundamentalist deregulaory plutocracy, they havent left obama much choice. this is america when the right wing wins. you are bat**** crazy bob but you already know that and that's about the level of response one gets when one challenges the urban myths of the right Urban myths of the right? Are you nuts? You make as much sense as your fruitcake buddy Plume. would you like me to list the asshole beliefs you and the right have? Only if you learn to punctuate and capitalise like a normal person. |
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On 14/05/2011 12:55 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 13:37:31 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 12:32:17 -0400, sent the following message On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:59:10 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 03:59:01 -0400, sent the following message On Fri, 13 May 2011 13:59:44 -0400, wrote: after the US right has had 30 years of fundamentalist deregulaory plutocracy, they havent left obama much choice. this is america when the right wing wins. you are bat**** crazy bob but you already know that and that's about the level of response one gets when one challenges the urban myths of the right Urban myths of the right? Are you nuts? You make as much sense as your fruitcake buddy Plume. would you like me to list the asshole beliefs you and the right have? Listing yourself and defumer? Appropriate assholes. -- Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance? |
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On 14/05/2011 1:00 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 14:36:15 -0400, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wrote: were reagan and bush liberals? they were the biggest spenders in US history They certainly were not fiscal conservatives And they weren't the biggest spenders in history. President Obams passed them in the first year! wrong. bush's last budget had a deficit of 1.2 TRILLION. So was Bush signing the checks while Obama was in office? but he's white...so we can't blame him So is Obama being black an excuse or a reason? This reminds me of the news. Progressives make so many inaccurate representations in one sentence or point, you just can't address them all... HAHAHAHA and you notice he LIES about bush then blames the black guy! Best part about fleabaggers is watching them while. Cheap ad free entertainment. -- Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance? |
Anybody but Obama, 2012!!
On 14/05/2011 12:34 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... On Sat, 14 May 2011 07:59:34 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 06:00:45 -0400, sent the following message Canuck57 wrote: I would say ABO, Anyone But Obama. You don't have a say, dickwad. As much say as you, eh. At least as far as this forum goes. Canadians have every reason to be concerned about US politics and politicans. Especialy our beloved BHO. i agree. after all it was BHO who killed 4400 US troops in iraq oh. wait that was bush BUT it was obama who spent a TRILLION in iraq oh. wait...bush uh...it was OBAMA who started the depression...oh...hold on...it was bush yeah i can see why you think BHO is a failure It was President Bush that told us he wanted to keep gas prices high to feed General Electric, oh wait, that was President Obama... It was President Bush's advisor who said "never let a good disaster go to waste" (in reference to the gulf coast oil spill, oh wait, that was President Obama's aide. It was President Bush who Bowed to the Arab Sheik, and a few others, shut down drilling all over the country while saying he was opening it up, it was President Bush who shut down all exploration off the coast but sent billions to Brazil to help them explore, and let the Chinese and anyone else who wants to drill off our coast.. Oh wait, that was President Obama.... It was President Bush who promised to shut down gitmo, get us out of Afghanistan, then attacked Libya for Italy and France's oil interests, sold health care to the health care industry, promised "sunshine" and has been the very most secretive administration in history, and let's not forget, the first piece of **** in history to personally attack private individuals and corporations, directly from the Oval office, oh wait, that was President Obama... Amazing how fleabaggers support statism and big fat government. Yet fail to realize government benefits greatly from high fuel costs, more taxes. Stupid sheep vote for the very thing they complain about. -- Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance? |
Anybody but Obama, 2012!!
On 14/05/2011 12:55 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 14:34:44 -0400, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On Sat, 14 May 2011 07:59:34 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 06:00:45 -0400, sent the following message Canuck57 wrote: BUT it was obama who spent a TRILLION in iraq oh. wait...bush uh...it was OBAMA who started the depression...oh...hold on...it was bush yeah i can see why you think BHO is a failure It was President Bush that told us he wanted to keep gas prices high to feed General Electric, oh wait, that was President Obama... actually he didnt but it's nice of you to try a brazen lie...typical of the right It was President Bush's advisor who said "never let a good disaster go to waste" (in reference to the gulf coast oil spill, oh wait, that was President Obama's aide. ah. an aide. and what did the right say about obama? he was being too hard on BP! they insisted he apologize to the poor, innocent oil company It was President Bush who Bowed to the Arab Sheik THIS is what you get from the right bush kills over 4000 troops but they're ****ed because obama does some imagined 'bow' , and a few others, shut down drilling all over the country he did, of cousre, no such thing, but the right is FURIOUS because they believe the middle class should be SERFS in the control of oil companies It was President Bush who promised to shut down gitmo HAHAHAHAAH why didnt obama shut gitmo BECAUSE THE RIGHT WOULD NOT PERMIT IT , get us out of Afghanistan, ANOTHER LIE obama NEVER...repeat NEVER promised to 'get us out of afghanistan'. what he DID say is that we would be there until it was safe for us to leave but the RIGHT LIES about obama because he's BLACK what an incredible moron obama shakes the hand of an arab leader and they're OUTRAGED bush MURDERS US troops and they shrug their shoulder and ask how it benefits the rich Hey, I don't argue Bush bowed to Saudi/Arabs.... but so does Obama, golden handshake and Muslim bow to his Imam. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUif1--r38 So your point? Hell, all of DC is corrupt. They will assure the choices you fleabaggers have will keep you poor slaves. And like sheep, you will vote for your new slave-master. Pick someone decent and honest, like Ron Paul. If you want real GOOD change, better find someone that does not profess big huge ever ineffective government tyrants. -- Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance? |
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On 14/05/2011 3:14 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2011 13:32:22 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 12:56:52 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 04:01:03 -0400, wrote: were reagan and bush liberals? they were the biggest spenders in US history They certainly were not fiscal conservatives which kind of makes a mockery of the right wing claims about obama If you are a big business, Wall Street, insurance company, medical conglomerate, neocon war mongering kind of republican you have to love Obama. So far he is GW Bush with a tan. (the 5th Bush Brother) That is why the attacks are so superficial. Yep, Obama, bailing out the corrupt. I liked Bush until TARP. After TARP, just another corrupt idiot, like Obama. Problem is US needs a president with balls to do the right thing. Just come out and say it, "Bailouts are a form of corruption and I will not willingly just bend over and do it!". Congress and the senate would have to force it. Get some decency into government, a president that represents the middle class, not the lazy fleabagger class and not the corrupt class, the real people that make the country work. -- Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance? |
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On Sat, 14 May 2011 15:25:08 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: Get some decency into government, a president that represents the middle class, not the lazy fleabagger class and not the corrupt class, the real people that make the country work. Wouldn't that be nice. I haven't seen much hope and change on the horizon however. All of the wannabe republican candidates are right wing whackos and the democrats are the same old tax and spend bunch. I wish Bill Clinton would run again or perhaps we could dig up Harry Truman and revive him, conservative democrats so to speak. Where's Barry Goldwater when we need him? He'd look like like a liberal these days. |
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