Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2011 1:27 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2011 6:25 AM, Harryk wrote:

A very nice apologetica that conveniently makes no mention of the greed
factors.

I love this line: "In other words, it's not profitable to build new
refineries and refine more oil because the lower price of gas won't
provide sufficient return on investment."

Right, I believe that b.s., just as I believe all the other oil company
lies.

Funny, they start your own oil company and prove them wrong....

oh wait, Harry is broke.

Uh, only in your dreams, po' boy.

Well, if you had some money to invest you wouldn't be gripping so much.

I rest my case fleabagger.

You misunderstand, my dumb correspondent. I'm griping about the oil
companies as examples of corporations that need to be controlled. The
increased petrol prices aren't causing me any pain. I do, however, shop
for bargain prices, which is why I shop at our local market, which earns
me ten cents off a gallon for every hundred dollars I spend.

On 23/04/2011 3:31 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2011 1:27 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2011 6:25 AM, Harryk wrote:

A very nice apologetica that conveniently makes no mention of the
greed
factors.

I love this line: "In other words, it's not profitable to build new
refineries and refine more oil because the lower price of gas won't
provide sufficient return on investment."

Right, I believe that b.s., just as I believe all the other oil
company
lies.

Funny, they start your own oil company and prove them wrong....

oh wait, Harry is broke.

Uh, only in your dreams, po' boy.

Well, if you had some money to invest you wouldn't be gripping so much.

I rest my case fleabagger.

You misunderstand, my dumb correspondent. I'm griping about the oil
companies as examples of corporations that need to be controlled. The
increased petrol prices aren't causing me any pain. I do, however, shop
for bargain prices, which is why I shop at our local market, which earns
me ten cents off a gallon for every hundred dollars I spend.

So why would you control private business? So it can be as efficient at
disposing of money as Government Motors?

Please, I could use a good laugh. Specifically in detail how government
sticking its nose in supply and demand is going to work -- without
massive debt and taxation of course...

If I were Canada, Venezuela, Brazil, Saudi, or whomever, why would I
sell it to you below cost?
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:31:59 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql

uh no. it's speculators. they caused a similar run up under the white
guy who preceded the guy you hate because he's black

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 09:22:54 -0400, A_boaterer wrote:

In article , payer3389
says...

Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql


Indeed, we have to be on the alert for "reaql..."


Hey, we know you're a bat**** crazy rightie, and you just can't live
with the fact that the black guy with the funny name was elected
president over your tired-out old fart McCain and his ditzy sidekick.

Too bad.

Didn't take Harry long to throw up the race card!!!

he's simply leaving the dead cats on the doorstep

the racists are those who think obama's been pres since 29

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:04:40 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/04/2011 4:26 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 4/22/2011 5:31 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql
In 2008 congress passed a Law to stop the fixing by the Speculators.
The Administration was supposed to come up with the regulations.
Wall Street hedge Funds and Speculators are pushing back with huge money
to kill it.
Obama green wienies want higher prices. They want to force electric cars
on Americans.
It doesn't matter, that we cannot take on more debt and our personal
economies are in a tailspin.
Obama in threatening to go after Speculators turned right around and
turned the whole pr thing into buy electric cars and get rid of 8mpg SUVs.
This shows stupidity on somebody's part. it show the green wienies don't
know what they are talking about. Very few get 8mpg unless they are in 4
wheel drive low range running up a muddy forest road.
I am waiting to see a Prius or Leaf hauling a family and luggage or a
baseball team and gear.
I would like to know how in the hell you tow or carry five or six bales
of hay with a Prius.
i bet it is lovely keeping cool, in Miami when it is 100 degrees and
100% humidity in an electric car for blocks and miles on end.
Our survival and economy don't mean squat to Washington. Their agenda
and or die.
There is not any shortage of oil nor will there be for the foreseeable
future. Ethanol is a load of expensive destructive BS.
I filled up with that crap a few days ago. The truck would hardly start
just now. It bucked and ran rough. Filled it with real gas, a bit a go,
and it does fine except it drained my wallet. Now over 400.00 for three
vehicles in 2 weeks. 51.00 a while ago for a half tank.
Follow the money. Who's getting rich off electric cars and infrastructure?
They see Multicultural Britain and France and evidently want to imitate
hell here for Americans.

What a bunch of run on like diarrhea. Print too much money, the money
becomes worth less.

There is no difference between a stock in a company and money stock. DC
doubles the money supply, each USD stock will be worth 1/2 as much for
100% inflation.

gee. core inflations been running about 2% for about 5 years.

but he's got a chance to take a shot at the black pres, so why not?


It is that simple. You didn't think all that Obama debt was free

it was bush debt

but he's got a chance to take a shot at the blace pres...


Keep on voting Obama, I like this. Makes your labor cheaper by value as
I preserve my value. And less competition for stuff as you Obama debt
worshiping idiots are broke.

yeah let's vote GOP

they'll kill medicare and transfer all senior's money to wall street!

that'll show 'em!!

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 19:33:15 -0400, Lil Abner wrote:


Obama's oufit and Ayers has an agenda to socialize America regardless of
or in spite of the cost to Middle America. They are in bed with Wall
Street on many issues.

face it. how can obama be BOTH a socialist AND a wall street pawn??

you right wingers are SSOOO stupid

in addition it's the RIGHT that deregulated us into a plutocracy owned
by wall street

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:00:47 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:20:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 22, 4:31*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. *It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. *However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql

Here's a reasonable explanation why:

http://www.helium.com/items/2143049-...-costs-so-much

Let's not try to confuse them with the facts. They won't appreciate
it, and they're confused enough already.

One thing is for sure however - $4 gas really stings when you're
filling up a runabout or pickup truck. Apparently Amex has a $85
limit on card purchases at the pump. I got cut off the other night a
few gallons short of a full tank. Learn something new every day.
:-)

how does this article explain anything? where's the DIFFERENTIAL cost
of gas? is refinery capacity 20% less than it iwas a year ago? I dont
think so!

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:54:24 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



Or, you can go to anotehr country and refine it, be able to ship
anywhere in the world and you can but bad management, bust unions and
whatever it takes to get a proper 15% return on investment

i love it. bust unions

many oil refineries in the US are in TX which is a right to work state

IOW the asshole canuck doesnt know **** about the US


Or if you don't want to go international and are risk adverse, just buy
an oilfield or gold and wait.

So why invest in a hyper-inflationary anti-business USA again?

HAHAHAHA anti business US...

the US is a plutocracy where the SCOTUS just legalized corporate
purchase of elections

and he says wer're anti business!

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 16:53:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


So why would you control private business? So it can be as efficient at
disposing of money as Government Motors?

let's see...in the last 3 years, efficient private business cost the
US TEN TRILLION in national wealth.

so much for THAT little piece of right wing bull****

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 19:28:16 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:31:59 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql

uh no. it's speculators. they caused a similar run up under the white
guy who preceded the guy you hate because he's black

Damn speculators.

Why aren't more people doing it? Let's go halves on a tanker load and
resell it on EBAY. Anybody else want in on the deal? We're going to
need a dock, tank farm, distribution network, trucks, pipelines and a
whole sh*t load of permits. With some help from Wall Street we can
probably get 90 day financing.