On 23/04/2011 6:53 AM, Harryk wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.


I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in the
oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone?

Well Harry, you have choices. Invest in one, pay up or walk. Choice is
yours. You do have money to invest right? Oh wait, on welfare...got it.
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I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On 23/04/2011 6:57 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:53:50 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.


I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in the
oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone?

Maybe it's just me but I believe that expensive oil is a lot better
than no oil.

Good point. human body needs at least a litre of bottled water per
mile. At $3 (unless you try to carry it all) for 20 miles....gas is cheap.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On 23/04/2011 7:00 AM, Harryk wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:53:50 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing
that the
world exists for corporations.
It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.

I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in the
oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone?

Maybe it's just me but I believe that expensive oil is a lot better
than no oil.


The world is awash in oil at the moment. We're all being raped by the
oil companies. The only thing left for them to do is merge with the
health insurance companies. :)

But I thought you had Obamacare..../snicker.

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On 23/04/2011 6:56 AM, Gene wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:44:53 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.


It has little to do with government doing a better job than private
industry... it has a lot more to do with greed. Over the last 30
years, the oil companies have steadily decreased the number of
refineries and their profits have, therefore, soared.....

When fuel is significantly cheaper in economic back waters like
Russia, Cuba, Taiwan, and Puerto Rico.... it is pretty clear something
is not on the up-and-up.....

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lis...bal_gasprices/

You are right in this, as Dated Brent seems to be $12/barrel more than
the US. Could be the Saudi are shipping cheap to the US for the 5th
Fleet support?

No reason the world pays $124/barrel and the US pays $112.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On 23/04/2011 11:55 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 10:49:20 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:56:17 -0400, Gene
wrote:

When fuel is significantly cheaper in economic back waters like
Russia, Cuba, Taiwan, and Puerto Rico.... it is pretty clear something
is not on the up-and-up.....

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lis...bal_gasprices/

Refineries in many (most) other countries do not operate under the
same environmental restrictions as they do in the US. It costs a
*lot* of money to reduce air pollution, reduce the sulfer content, and
eliminate the use of lead in fuel. Those are worthwhile goals but
there is a price for it.



The current price increases have nothing to do with that.

No but it has everything to do with why fuel is more expensive here
than in many other nearby countries. Go to Europe if you want a real
sticker shock. Last September diesel and gasoline was over $9
USD/gal in France, Switzerland and Italy. I'm sure it is even higher
now.

Governments love those taxes. Higher the price, more taxes. That is
why governments will not do what it takes. In fact, US DC Fed
deliberately dilutes the currency so you pay more taxes.

Now of course Obama will pull out his soap box, but as the saying goes,
don't watch how the lips move, watch the walk. And while Obama says he
does not like it, government is hiding it's smirk as the case revenues
for gas are up.

All the world is a stage. And fleabaggers are gullible for this nonsense.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On 23/04/2011 7:18 AM, A_boaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:20:57 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Apr 22, 4:31 pm, wrote:
Of course Obama blames "speculators" because that is ALWAYS the reason
why gas costs anything. It is a bit like saying the sky is blue
because it bluish colored. However, what Obama actually means is that
in this context, "speculators" is a code word for "reaql
Here's a reasonable explanation why:

http://www.helium.com/items/2143049-...-costs-so-much


A very nice apologetica that conveniently makes no mention of the greed
factors.

I love this line: "In other words, it's not profitable to build new
refineries and refine more oil because the lower price of gas won't
provide sufficient return on investment."

Right, I believe that b.s., just as I believe all the other oil company
lies.

Oil companies are going to be reporting record profits again.

Hey, if making gasoline has such a low R.O.I., let's buy the refineries
in the name of the taxpayers and produce gasoline at prices that are at
breakeven plus a 10% setaside. That'll lower the pump price of gasoline
by what, $2.00 a gallon?

Even smarter, let's not allow the Repubs in Congress to cut the funds
for alternative energy development, as they want to do, in order to
continue the payoff to their oil company buddies.

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing that the
world exists for corporations.

Harry, if it IS the fault of corporations and speculators, why don't you
buy a large amount of gas and sell it for, say, $2.00 per gallon?

Because Harry be full of sh-t. A fleabagger blow hard -- sheeples of
Obama type.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2011 7:00 AM, Harryk wrote:
Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:53:50 -0400,
wrote:

Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:25:50 -0400,
wrote:

It's amazing how Americans have been brainwashed into believing
that the
world exists for corporations.
It's amazing to me how some people have become brainwashed into
believing that government can do a better job than private industry.

I'm supposed to be impressed with private industry's achievements in
the
oil business, beyond sticking it to everyone?

Maybe it's just me but I believe that expensive oil is a lot better
than no oil.


The world is awash in oil at the moment. We're all being raped by the
oil companies. The only thing left for them to do is merge with the
health insurance companies. :)

But I thought you had Obamacare..../snicker.


Once more, **** for brains, I have private insurance I pay for, not
Medicare. I suspect my weekly earnings are significantly higher than
your monthly income, and probably higher than your monthly income ever
was. I'd further guess that I pay more in federal income tax each year
than you earn. And that's without adding in my wife's income, which, I
am sure, is also much higher than yours ever was.

Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2011 6:25 AM, Harryk wrote:

A very nice apologetica that conveniently makes no mention of the greed
factors.

I love this line: "In other words, it's not profitable to build new
refineries and refine more oil because the lower price of gas won't
provide sufficient return on investment."

Right, I believe that b.s., just as I believe all the other oil company
lies.

Funny, they start your own oil company and prove them wrong....

oh wait, Harry is broke.

Uh, only in your dreams, po' boy.

On 23/04/2011 1:27 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/04/2011 6:25 AM, Harryk wrote:

A very nice apologetica that conveniently makes no mention of the greed
factors.

I love this line: "In other words, it's not profitable to build new
refineries and refine more oil because the lower price of gas won't
provide sufficient return on investment."

Right, I believe that b.s., just as I believe all the other oil company
lies.

Funny, they start your own oil company and prove them wrong....

oh wait, Harry is broke.

Uh, only in your dreams, po' boy.

Well, if you had some money to invest you wouldn't be gripping so much.

I rest my case fleabagger.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On Apr 23, 12:55*pm, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 10:49:20 -0400, Harryk
wrote:









Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:56:17 -0400, Gene
*wrote:

When fuel is significantly cheaper in economic back waters like
Russia, Cuba, Taiwan, and Puerto Rico.... it is pretty clear something
is not on the up-and-up.....

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lis...bal_gasprices/

Refineries in many (most) other countries do not operate under the
same environmental restrictions as they do in the US. * It costs a
*lot* of money to reduce air pollution, reduce the sulfer content, and
eliminate the use of lead *in fuel. * Those are worthwhile goals but
there is a price for it.

The current price increases have nothing to do with that.

No but it has everything to do with why fuel is more expensive here
than in many other nearby countries. * Go to Europe if you want a real
sticker shock. * Last September diesel and gasoline was over $9
USD/gal in France, Switzerland and Italy. *I'm sure it is even higher
now.

Wayne now this probably isn't really related to your comment but in
europe it seems that because of highway (robbery) fuel prices, bicycle
and small motorcycle seems to be a popular means of individual
transportation

and though the Swiss have had a love/hate relationship with them,
they've been pushing for micro electric commuter cars for years. Now
they're pushing to put more electrics on the road

http://www.green-car-guide.com/artic...structure.html