On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:32:31 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35



Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS

I think I'd go the same way.... I'd prefer the Nikon's (still lugging
around my 42 year old Nikon FTNs around, on occasion)....

but if she doesn't want a bunch of levers, dials, and buttons getting
in the way of her memories... the Canon might be a better fit....

I looked at the G12 site above, and read a lot of the reviews. For a point and
shoot it's probably a great camera. But, it's not a 'grown up's' camera, which
is undoubtedly part of my daughter's desires.

She enjoys photography and wants the capabilities of a DSLR. I think the Nikon
D90 will work for her.

What the hell, it's only money.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:34:47 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:22:33 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:32:31 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35



Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS

I think I'd go the same way.... I'd prefer the Nikon's (still lugging
around my 42 year old Nikon FTNs around, on occasion)....

but if she doesn't want a bunch of levers, dials, and buttons getting
in the way of her memories... the Canon might be a better fit....

I looked at the G12 site above, and read a lot of the reviews. For a point and
shoot it's probably a great camera. But, it's not a 'grown up's' camera, which
is undoubtedly part of my daughter's desires.

She enjoys photography and wants the capabilities of a DSLR. I think the Nikon
D90 will work for her.

What the hell, it's only money.

Well, by golly.... more power to the young lady. Photography has been
one of my inspirations since I was a young teenager.

Money well spent on an inspired progeny...!

Somebody doesn't know how to read. The G12 is at the top of the heap
in the P&S market and likely has more features than any progeny of a
Herring is likely to understand.

The D90 is a trick camera that adds the feature of video and doesn't
do it well. It's an okay DSLR.

Of couse, Herring hasn't even mentioned lenses which is the key to any
SLR setup, digital or otherwise. No one should buy any camera body
until they think about how the camera will be used and which lens is
likely to be their most used based on their specific interests.

It's like buying a boat without thinking about how it's going to be
used. Hey, this one looks like a good deal.

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:34:47 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:22:33 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:32:31 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35



Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS

I think I'd go the same way.... I'd prefer the Nikon's (still lugging
around my 42 year old Nikon FTNs around, on occasion)....

but if she doesn't want a bunch of levers, dials, and buttons getting
in the way of her memories... the Canon might be a better fit....

I looked at the G12 site above, and read a lot of the reviews. For a point and
shoot it's probably a great camera. But, it's not a 'grown up's' camera, which
is undoubtedly part of my daughter's desires.

She enjoys photography and wants the capabilities of a DSLR. I think the Nikon
D90 will work for her.

What the hell, it's only money.

Well, by golly.... more power to the young lady. Photography has been
one of my inspirations since I was a young teenager.

Money well spent on an inspired progeny...!

Somebody doesn't know how to read. The G12 is at the top of the heap
in the P&S market and likely has more features than any progeny of a
Herring is likely to understand.


You know, when you act like such an ass, nobody but Harry and the pussy
Don White read anything you are making up as you go along... What a
****ing pussy asshole you are...

I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:34:47 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:22:33 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:32:31 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400,
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35


Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS
I think I'd go the same way.... I'd prefer the Nikon's (still lugging
around my 42 year old Nikon FTNs around, on occasion)....

but if she doesn't want a bunch of levers, dials, and buttons getting
in the way of her memories... the Canon might be a better fit....
I looked at the G12 site above, and read a lot of the reviews. For a point and
shoot it's probably a great camera. But, it's not a 'grown up's' camera, which
is undoubtedly part of my daughter's desires.

She enjoys photography and wants the capabilities of a DSLR. I think the Nikon
D90 will work for her.

What the hell, it's only money.
Well, by golly.... more power to the young lady. Photography has been
one of my inspirations since I was a young teenager.

Money well spent on an inspired progeny...!
Somebody doesn't know how to read. The G12 is at the top of the heap
in the P&S market and likely has more features than any progeny of a
Herring is likely to understand.


You know, when you act like such an ass, nobody but Harry and the pussy
Don White read anything you are making up as you go along... What a
****ing pussy asshole you are...


A lecture from Snotty Ingersoll, a little man of little consequence.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 18:34:47 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:22:33 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 08:32:31 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:37:19 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35



Does she want to mess around with a DSLR? That Nikon is a great outfit
and the price seems pretty good, but perhaps she'd want a simpler way to
take great photos, like the Canon Powershot g12:

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-G12-Digi.../dp/B0041RSPRS

I think I'd go the same way.... I'd prefer the Nikon's (still lugging
around my 42 year old Nikon FTNs around, on occasion)....

but if she doesn't want a bunch of levers, dials, and buttons getting
in the way of her memories... the Canon might be a better fit....

I looked at the G12 site above, and read a lot of the reviews. For a point and
shoot it's probably a great camera. But, it's not a 'grown up's' camera, which
is undoubtedly part of my daughter's desires.

She enjoys photography and wants the capabilities of a DSLR. I think the Nikon
D90 will work for her.

What the hell, it's only money.

Well, by golly.... more power to the young lady. Photography has been
one of my inspirations since I was a young teenager.

Money well spent on an inspired progeny...!

When I went to a DSLR, the fact that none of my Canon lenses would fit the Canon
DSLRs pushed me in the Nikon direction. She pleaded with me to give her my Canon
SLRs and lenses, which I did. She used them for several years, until I gave her
my digital P&S, also a Nikon.

Now she's ready to go DSLR. One nice thing about getting daughters into
photography is that it's always easy to find gifts for birthdays, mother's days,
and Christmas.

John H wrote:


When I went to a DSLR, the fact that none of my Canon lenses would fit the Canon
DSLRs pushed me in the Nikon direction. She pleaded with me to give her my Canon
SLRs and lenses, which I did. She used them for several years, until I gave her
my digital P&S, also a Nikon.


The Canon "EF" and "EF-S" lenses fit the Canon DSLRs. The lenses for the
"crop" Canon DSLRs, however, don't work properly opticaly on a
full-frame Canon SLR or DSLR.

The DSLR lines of Canon and Nikon are very competitive.

"Harryk" wrote in message
...

John H wrote:


When I went to a DSLR, the fact that none of my Canon lenses would fit the
Canon
DSLRs pushed me in the Nikon direction. She pleaded with me to give her my
Canon
SLRs and lenses, which I did. She used them for several years, until I
gave her
my digital P&S, also a Nikon.


The Canon "EF" and "EF-S" lenses fit the Canon DSLRs. The lenses for the
"crop" Canon DSLRs, however, don't work properly opticaly on a
full-frame Canon SLR or DSLR.

The DSLR lines of Canon and Nikon are very competitive.

******************

I've been looking at the canon T2i for a bit and now the T3i.
Trouble is...you ask yourself if it might be better to spend a couple more
dollars and get the 60D.
When you settle on that cost point...the camera guys then try to convince
you to get something with a metal body.... so we arrive at the 7D.
Trouble is... that 7D with a good lens and taxes soars up to the $2k mark.
I then back off and start the whole process again.

On 26/03/2011 7:01 AM, John H wrote:
...anyone know of a better deal than this for $729?

http://tinyurl.com/4zhdw35


I would not want to lug that on a 30 day vacation. What is she using it
for? Different camera for different purposes. Even the most adamant
pro these days has multiple cameras for multiple purposes. And bigger
isn't necessarily better.

Given it has a 55 - 200mm VR lens, that is crap to drive up the price.
Better off with a 70-300mm as digital can do the low end without a fuss
using the regular lenses.

So what is she using it for?

If she is a pro, maybe ask her first. If not a pro, well, this might be
overkill.

Canuck57 wrote:

Given it has a 55 - 200mm VR lens, that is crap to drive up the price.
Better off with a 70-300mm as digital can do the low end without a fuss
using the regular lenses.

Might you translate that paragraph into standard English?

Are you saying VR is "crap," simply there "to drive up the price?"
If so, on what basis would you make such a statement? What does that
statement mean?

And what does "digital can do the low end without a fuss using the
regular lenses" mean?

The low end of what? Fuss about what? Are you trying to say it would be
better using a fixed focal length prime lens? What focal length? 35mm?
On a Nikon SLR crop sensor, that would be the equivalent of a 52.5 mm or
"normal" lens. It's also a $250 lens.

On 26/03/2011 11:01 AM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:

Given it has a 55 - 200mm VR lens, that is crap to drive up the price.
Better off with a 70-300mm as digital can do the low end without a fuss
using the regular lenses.

Might you translate that paragraph into standard English?

Are you saying VR is "crap," simply there "to drive up the price?"
If so, on what basis would you make such a statement? What does that
statement mean?

And what does "digital can do the low end without a fuss using the
regular lenses" mean?

The low end of what? Fuss about what? Are you trying to say it would be
better using a fixed focal length prime lens? What focal length? 35mm?
On a Nikon SLR crop sensor, that would be the equivalent of a 52.5 mm or
"normal" lens. It's also a $250 lens.

No, not saying VR is crap. But my not be what she wants/needs. Just
that I would rather have a 70-300mm than a 55-200mm. For others it may
be different. Buying cameras if you are a "pro" is like buying cloths,
a mine field to get it right. One size or style does not fit all.

Means most digital cameras can zoom without lens, thus a low end zoom
becomes obsolete.

Still need to know what she wants it for? Pretty hard to discuss
without knowing why it is needed.