Ok so I have a 1997 maxum 20foot ski boat and I am looking to upgrade.
I have moorage on lake washington ( near seattle ) and so most of my
time is spent on the lake. I was thinking of buying a cruiser but I
have realised a new ski boat is the way for me.

So I went down to the dealship and fell in love with the bayliner 225.
This was a new model in 2004 and is AWESOME. It's got this fantasic L
shaped seating system, and comes with a 260hp fuel injected beast of a
engine. 22feet long and a uber wide beam of 9 feet makes it really
roomy.

but I found a problem, there arent any used available So now I am
stuck in this mode of actually considering buying new! This seems
insane to me since I would take such a depreciation hit.. but it's a
boat.. we dont buy these things to make money

So tell me if I am nuts or since I found the right boat I should just
go for it. To put it into perspective my signifigant other who is 100%
opposed to upgradeing the boat things the bayliner 225 is fantastic!

A little background thread:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...8b5b117c53a804

Let me know what you think!

What's your ownership style?

If you are a frequent trader who will be looking for another boat
within a couple of years, you will indeed
take a good whack from depreciation when you trade up. Maybe 20-30%,
and could be more. That makes a new boat very expensive on an "avg cost
per month of ownership basis".

However, if you plan to hang onto the boat for many years depreciation
needn't be such a critical concern.
Starting with a new boat allows you to avoid wondering what dirty
little secrets the previous owner
glossed over or concealed, and you will know from day one exactly what
type of maintenance the boat receives. Once you iron out the few almost
inevitable
new boat warranty bugs, you can expect perhaps a few years or so of a
blissful time where almost everything is almost always working. That's
about as good as it gets in the real world for most boats.

Owning a boat makes no economic sense whatsoever, whether it is new or
used, unless you somehow use to to earn a living.

If this Bayliner 225 is really the boat of your dreams and there is
nothing similar available used, I'd personally advise against buying a
used boat that you don't like nearly as well simply because it is
already partially worn-out (and depreciated).

Then there's the SO factor. The "Significant Other". Very important.
When we bought our present boat in the early 90's, we made the choice
we did because it was among the top 3 prospects on my list (1st, 2nd,
and 3rd place seemed to vary depending on daily mood and it was a close
contest), but it was clearly NUMERO UNO with the wife. Happy wife
makes a happy boat. After all these years I'm still very pleased with
our boat and have saved more than we paid for it by not repurchasing
another boat every 2-3 years like so many people seem to do. Turns out
my wife was pretty smart about picking boats- (too bad about her luck
with husbands!)

It may make less economic sense to buy new than used, but in a
transaction where "economic sense" is never a factor under any
circumstance, who cares?

Go for it. Having a boat you really like and know there are no issues w/
wiring, engine, trim, etc... makes for some great boating pleasure. Money
spent on the new boat overcomes maintenance, rework, hassel.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

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wrote in message
oups.com...
Ok so I have a 1997 maxum 20foot ski boat and I am looking to upgrade.
I have moorage on lake washington ( near seattle ) and so most of my
time is spent on the lake. I was thinking of buying a cruiser but I
have realised a new ski boat is the way for me.

So I went down to the dealship and fell in love with the bayliner 225.
This was a new model in 2004 and is AWESOME. It's got this fantasic L
shaped seating system, and comes with a 260hp fuel injected beast of a
engine. 22feet long and a uber wide beam of 9 feet makes it really
roomy.

but I found a problem, there arent any used available So now I am
stuck in this mode of actually considering buying new! This seems
insane to me since I would take such a depreciation hit.. but it's a
boat.. we dont buy these things to make money

So tell me if I am nuts or since I found the right boat I should just
go for it. To put it into perspective my signifigant other who is 100%
opposed to upgradeing the boat things the bayliner 225 is fantastic!

A little background thread:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...8b5b117c53a804

Let me know what you think!

ya keeping the woman happy would really help here...man it was a
awesome boat.. I can see myself cruising around right now

ok thanks for the input guys, I will let you know in a few days what I
decide to do. First I need to sell my current boat.


tony thomas wrote:
Go for it. Having a boat you really like and know there are no
issues w/
wiring, engine, trim, etc... makes for some great boating pleasure.
Money
spent on the new boat overcomes maintenance, rework, hassel.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

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wrote in message
oups.com...
Ok so I have a 1997 maxum 20foot ski boat and I am looking to
upgrade.
I have moorage on lake washington ( near seattle ) and so most of
my
time is spent on the lake. I was thinking of buying a cruiser but I
have realised a new ski boat is the way for me.

So I went down to the dealship and fell in love with the bayliner
225.
This was a new model in 2004 and is AWESOME. It's got this fantasic
L
shaped seating system, and comes with a 260hp fuel injected beast
of a
engine. 22feet long and a uber wide beam of 9 feet makes it really
roomy.

but I found a problem, there arent any used available So now I
am
stuck in this mode of actually considering buying new! This seems
insane to me since I would take such a depreciation hit.. but it's
a
boat.. we dont buy these things to make money

So tell me if I am nuts or since I found the right boat I should
just
go for it. To put it into perspective my signifigant other who is
100%
opposed to upgradeing the boat things the bayliner 225 is
fantastic!

A little background thread:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...8b5b117c53a804

Let me know what you think!

On 9 May 2005 20:04:24 -0700, wrote:

~~ snippage ~~

First I need to sell my current boat

Which might be a whole 'nother adventure in and of itself.

Here's my opinion - buy what you can afford. Make the decision based
on disposable income. New or Used, that's the bottom line. A boat,
new or used, is going to do nothing but cost you money.

Later,

Tom

"tony thomas" wrote in message
news:zMTfe.67670$r53.23264@attbi_s21...
Go for it. Having a boat you really like and know there are no issues w/
wiring, engine, trim, etc... makes for some great boating pleasure. Money
spent on the new boat overcomes maintenance, rework, hassel.

--
Tony
my boats and cars at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com

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I'm in the same situation and am thinking the same thing. Particularly since
the boat I have my eye on is in demand used and has a high resale value
(Grady White Sailfish). I am sure a used boat can be a great deal in some
cases but the joy of something brand new that you have babied from day 1 is
very appealing.


--
Peter Aitken

Well I made a offer and the dealer wouldnt take it.. it's depressing.
The boat was listed for 27K and I offered 25K and they said no. so I
guess I will just wait and try to find a used one somewhere.. wish me
luck!

You might hear from the dealer in a day or two if the dealer does not get
any other offers.


wrote in message
oups.com...
Well I made a offer and the dealer wouldnt take it.. it's depressing.
The boat was listed for 27K and I offered 25K and they said no. so I
guess I will just wait and try to find a used one somewhere.. wish me
luck!

I can only hope! they said it was a low price already and they couldnt
go any lower.. I call bs.

On Tue, 10 May 2005 19:13:29 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Tue, 10 May 2005 11:44:50 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
wrote:


I'm in the same situation and am thinking the same thing. Particularly since
the boat I have my eye on is in demand used and has a high resale value
(Grady White Sailfish). I am sure a used boat can be a great deal in some
cases but the joy of something brand new that you have babied from day 1 is
very appealing.

Nah.... what you need is an Express 360....

Gene, on your site you have a link to grady-white. That link took me to some
page that seems to sell everything but boats. Try changing it to
http://www.gradywhite.com/


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."