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An OT question
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:29:11 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:18:00 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:37:39 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:46:47 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:06:25 -0400, Harryk wrote: wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:04:41 -0400, wrote: I was wrong, I did misread the first note. John does have a point though. The media fought Bush for the right to go out to Dover and take pictures of coffins from the Iraq war and now that they have that right, they are not showing the coffins coming home from Afghanistan. I don't really think it is a liberal conspiracy though. I think the TV networks just figured out they sell more products if they don't show coffins and they like the American public to be as blissfully ignorant of this war as Oprah. It does demonstrate how phony the righteous indignation of the left was when Bush was the president. It was never about the war. It was only about Bush. That's about as simple-minded an analysis as I've seen. Maybe there's less reportage about the bodies because it's been reported and it's boring. So you are saying Bush made war a safe prospect for Democrats? Now nobody cares that our kids are being killed for no particular reason and they can stay in the blissful ignorance Oprah is so proud of. No, I am not saying that Bush made way a "safe prospect." What I posted, in plain English, is easy enough to understand: maybe there is less reportage about the bodies because it's been reported and it's boring. The young U.S. men and women who died in Iraq during Bush's war were killed for no particular reason. The last time large numbers of U.S. troops died for a particular reason was in World War II. The question still stands, where is the outrage from the left about the kids who are still coming home from Afghanistan in a box? Will there be any outrage about dead kids coming home from Libya? Why does there have to be outrage from the left? Where are the Republicans who want the Afg. war to end right now? There aren't many. Sounds to me like you're bitter about something. Perhaps you should write Bush a letter and tell him how you feel about the two wars he started, one of choice, while he pretty much ignored the one that had some justification. Actually I would write Obama a letter and ask him what happened to his 2007 and early 2008 promise to end BOTH wars. He would probably write back, saying he's trying, but Bush left quite a mess. Are you saying he wasn't up to the job he was running for? That is what Hillary was saying all through the spring of 2008. This may be the first president in history who is still blaming the previous president 4 years later. I'm saying that Bush was a lying asshole and he and Cheney are war criminals. Where's all the outrage about the Bosnian conflict? Oh wait, that was Clinton's war.. I was never happy about Bosnia and we still have troops on the ground there. Sure... ethnic cleansing is ok with you... we have no reason to protect people who are being persecuted because of that. We only seem to care about "cleansing" white people. The world is full of genocide and we conveniently ignore it everywhere else. So, you do or don't want us to get involved in those situations? Time to get off the fence. |
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An OT question
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:29:54 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:44:11 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:29:11 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:18:00 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:37:39 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:46:47 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:06:25 -0400, Harryk wrote: wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:04:41 -0400, wrote: I was wrong, I did misread the first note. John does have a point though. The media fought Bush for the right to go out to Dover and take pictures of coffins from the Iraq war and now that they have that right, they are not showing the coffins coming home from Afghanistan. I don't really think it is a liberal conspiracy though. I think the TV networks just figured out they sell more products if they don't show coffins and they like the American public to be as blissfully ignorant of this war as Oprah. It does demonstrate how phony the righteous indignation of the left was when Bush was the president. It was never about the war. It was only about Bush. That's about as simple-minded an analysis as I've seen. Maybe there's less reportage about the bodies because it's been reported and it's boring. So you are saying Bush made war a safe prospect for Democrats? Now nobody cares that our kids are being killed for no particular reason and they can stay in the blissful ignorance Oprah is so proud of. No, I am not saying that Bush made way a "safe prospect." What I posted, in plain English, is easy enough to understand: maybe there is less reportage about the bodies because it's been reported and it's boring. The young U.S. men and women who died in Iraq during Bush's war were killed for no particular reason. The last time large numbers of U.S. troops died for a particular reason was in World War II. The question still stands, where is the outrage from the left about the kids who are still coming home from Afghanistan in a box? Will there be any outrage about dead kids coming home from Libya? Why does there have to be outrage from the left? Where are the Republicans who want the Afg. war to end right now? There aren't many. Sounds to me like you're bitter about something. Perhaps you should write Bush a letter and tell him how you feel about the two wars he started, one of choice, while he pretty much ignored the one that had some justification. Actually I would write Obama a letter and ask him what happened to his 2007 and early 2008 promise to end BOTH wars. He would probably write back, saying he's trying, but Bush left quite a mess. Are you saying he wasn't up to the job he was running for? That is what Hillary was saying all through the spring of 2008. This may be the first president in history who is still blaming the previous president 4 years later. I'm saying that Bush was a lying asshole and he and Cheney are war criminals. That seems to be your only thought about anything. It sure doesn't say much about that $100,000 education. It sure does say much about your unwillingness to face the facts. Feel free to attack me personally if it makes you feel better. The facts are pretty clear that the two of them should be in jail. Where's all the outrage about the Bosnian conflict? Oh wait, that was Clinton's war.. I was never happy about Bosnia and we still have troops on the ground there. Sure... ethnic cleansing is ok with you... we have no reason to protect people who are being persecuted because of that. We only seem to care about "cleansing" white people. The world is full of genocide and we conveniently ignore it everywhere else. So, you do or don't want us to get involved in those situations? Time to get off the fence. NO, clear enough? It is none of our business. Perfectly clear. You don't care about your fellow human beings. Got it. I do notice the hypocrisy that we did only went after the genocide in (white) Bosnia and we don't give a **** about genocide in Tibet, or sub saharan Africa. You didn't care about what was going on in Iraq either. At least I am consistent. Yep. We should have done more there. Not less elsewhere. I didn't care about Iraq? Where are you getting that? You have yet to be consistent about much... perhaps false equivalency and an unwillingness to get past right-wing ideology. |
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