On Feb 28, 9:38*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:21:42 -0800, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:38:27 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:21:07 -0800, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:51:18 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:49:39 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:00:38 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 02:19:25 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:09:49 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

I don't think many are shot at in Germany and Japan, but I think it's
probably time to start moving them home. It can't all be done in a
moment. This won't have much of an effect either way, since it needs
to be a relatively slow process.

Why? What are they protecting? *The Soviets are gone.

It's a nice way of handing over a bunch of Foreign aid, send a bunch of
Americans over and pay them to become a part of another countries
economy for a few years. Not saying there is no need for a presence, I
don't know the details, but still...

We probably have a better reason to be in Japan than Europe but make
no mistake, it is just to be a staging area for restarting the Korean
war.

In any case, you can't just give them a call and tell them to get on
the next plane.

Why not? They could certainly be gone in 180 days and that is a blink
in government talk.

If we donated the equipment to the German military, we could be out of there in
much less than 180 days.

Sounds like socialism to me....

We call it foreign aid.

All of our foreign aid combined is about 1% of the budget or some
similarly small number. I guess taxing rich people an extra 4% might
cover it. What do you think.

When in doubt change the subject huh?

Her only defence. But from her, this should only be expected.

In article 2b0a179d-224d-4b6c-bac0-0304437a7194
@u14g2000vbg.googlegroups.com, says...
We are looking for ways to cut an $800 billion dollar pentagon budget.
You have to cut something.

Let's start with getting the facts right...

http://www.janes.com/events/OnlineSe...DefenceBudget/

Maybe we can get rid of some nukes... oh wait, this was opposed by all
those fiscal conservative Republicans.

"oh wait?" D'Plume? Still having problems with dementia?


Let's take d'Plume's $800 billion number and start closing bases in
Democrat districts and canceling defense contracts in Democrat
districts. If reducing the defense budget is what is needed and Obama
says we all need to share the pain, then the Democrats should be ready
to set the example.

On 3/1/11 7:37 AM, BAR wrote:
In article2b0a179d-224d-4b6c-bac0-0304437a7194
@u14g2000vbg.googlegroups.com, says...
We are looking for ways to cut an $800 billion dollar pentagon budget.
You have to cut something.

Let's start with getting the facts right...

http://www.janes.com/events/OnlineSe...DefenceBudget/

Maybe we can get rid of some nukes... oh wait, this was opposed by all
those fiscal conservative Republicans.

"oh wait?" D'Plume? Still having problems with dementia?


Let's take d'Plume's $800 billion number and start closing bases in
Democrat districts and canceling defense contracts in Democrat
districts. If reducing the defense budget is what is needed and Obama
says we all need to share the pain, then the Democrats should be ready
to set the example.


We should begin cutting military spending by 10% each fiscal year until
we are at half the level we are at today, and then see what further cuts
can be made.

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 3/1/11 7:37 AM, BAR wrote:
In article2b0a179d-224d-4b6c-bac0-0304437a7194
@u14g2000vbg.googlegroups.com, says...
We are looking for ways to cut an $800 billion dollar pentagon budget.
You have to cut something.

Let's start with getting the facts right...

http://www.janes.com/events/OnlineSe...DefenceBudget/

Maybe we can get rid of some nukes... oh wait, this was opposed by all
those fiscal conservative Republicans.

"oh wait?" D'Plume? Still having problems with dementia?


Let's take d'Plume's $800 billion number and start closing bases in
Democrat districts and canceling defense contracts in Democrat
districts. If reducing the defense budget is what is needed and Obama
says we all need to share the pain, then the Democrats should be ready
to set the example.


We should begin cutting military spending by 10% each fiscal year until
we are at half the level we are at today, and then see what further cuts
can be made.

Agreed, let's start with bases and programs in Democrat districts.

On 3/1/11 7:53 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleALydneo28cfPd_HQnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 3/1/11 7:37 AM, BAR wrote:
In article2b0a179d-224d-4b6c-bac0-0304437a7194
@u14g2000vbg.googlegroups.com, says...
We are looking for ways to cut an $800 billion dollar pentagon budget.
You have to cut something.

Let's start with getting the facts right...

http://www.janes.com/events/OnlineSe...DefenceBudget/

Maybe we can get rid of some nukes... oh wait, this was opposed by all
those fiscal conservative Republicans.

"oh wait?" D'Plume? Still having problems with dementia?


Let's take d'Plume's $800 billion number and start closing bases in
Democrat districts and canceling defense contracts in Democrat
districts. If reducing the defense budget is what is needed and Obama
says we all need to share the pain, then the Democrats should be ready
to set the example.


We should begin cutting military spending by 10% each fiscal year until
we are at half the level we are at today, and then see what further cuts
can be made.

Agreed, let's start with bases and programs in Democrat districts.


Well, of course; if you started in the red states, "them thar good ol'
boys" would have to go back to stoking up the wood fires and cleaning
out the copper kettles and coils.

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:38:03 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:21:42 -0800, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:38:27 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:21:07 -0800, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:51:18 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:49:39 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:00:38 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 02:19:25 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:09:49 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

I don't think many are shot at in Germany and Japan, but I think it's
probably time to start moving them home. It can't all be done in a
moment. This won't have much of an effect either way, since it needs
to be a relatively slow process.

Why? What are they protecting? The Soviets are gone.

It's a nice way of handing over a bunch of Foreign aid, send a bunch of
Americans over and pay them to become a part of another countries
economy for a few years. Not saying there is no need for a presence, I
don't know the details, but still...

We probably have a better reason to be in Japan than Europe but make
no mistake, it is just to be a staging area for restarting the Korean
war.

In any case, you can't just give them a call and tell them to get on
the next plane.

Why not? They could certainly be gone in 180 days and that is a blink
in government talk.

If we donated the equipment to the German military, we could be out of there in
much less than 180 days.

Sounds like socialism to me....


We call it foreign aid.

All of our foreign aid combined is about 1% of the budget or some
similarly small number. I guess taxing rich people an extra 4% might
cover it. What do you think.


When in doubt change the subject huh?

WADF...

Anyway, it looks like we've got about 7 battalions worth of tanks over there
now, if the cavalry regiment is using tanks. They're probably the most expensive
thing over there that can't fly or float. That's a bunch of tanks, but we'd not
have to pay to ship them home. Or, they could be put in storage for an
eventuality in which we might need them over there.

Her comment, as are most of them, was simply inane.

On Mar 1, 2:55*am, TopBassDog wrote:
On Feb 28, 8:21*pm, wrote:



On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:38:27 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:21:07 -0800, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:51:18 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:49:39 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:00:38 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 02:19:25 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:09:49 -0500, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

I don't think many are shot at in Germany and Japan, but I think it's
probably time to start moving them home. It can't all be done in a
moment. This won't have much of an effect either way, since it needs
to be a relatively slow process.

Why? What are they protecting? *The Soviets are gone.

It's a nice way of handing over a bunch of Foreign aid, send a bunch of
Americans over and pay them to become a part of another countries
economy for a few years. Not saying there is no need for a presence, I
don't know the details, but still...

We probably have a better reason to be in Japan than Europe but make
no mistake, it is just to be a staging area for restarting the Korean
war.

In any case, you can't just give them a call and tell them to get on
the next plane.

Why not? They could certainly be gone in 180 days and that is a blink
in government talk.

If we donated the equipment to the German military, we could be out of there in
much less than 180 days.

Sounds like socialism to me....

We call it foreign aid.

All of our foreign aid combined is about 1% of the budget or some
similarly small number. I guess taxing rich people an extra 4% might
cover it. What do you think.

Seeing you were born to make ridiculous and inane arguments, do you
really care for his well-thought response?

i would yell for more popcorn, but I gotta get to work!

rec.boats at it's finest or worst. Ya'll call the shots.

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:58:20 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:43:21 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


The buyer still has to come up with a tag and the insurance is tied to
that tag. I can't speak for everywhere but the wrong tag on a care
around here is a "felony stop". ( get out of the car, lay on the
ground, don't make any fast moves) The assumption is you are up to no
good, car theft at the minimum but you could be a drug courier or
driving a getaway car.

This all sounds like a paranoid fantasy to me. Most illegals are going
back and forth to work. They avoid doing stupid things and are just
regular people trying to get by. Sure, sometimes there are hardened
criminals doing dirty deeds. This has nothing to do with most people.

Most people just buy insurance and do things by the book.
Co-ordination between insurance companies and DMV's have no doubt
caused some people to buy insurance when they would have previously gone
uninsured.
Some of those systems can probably be gamed too.
Illegals most often just ride with a legal motorist.
But anybody who doesn't care about the law for whatever reason can buy a
used car on the street and steal tags. Happens all the time.
The smarter ones avoid vanity plates like CUDDLY4U.
Just go with something like 154 823L.
Cops aren't running tags enough to affect that.
But it could happen.
The tollway cameras and red light cameras could be advanced to go real
time and notify nearby cops of hits on stolen tags and lack of insurance
coverage.
Matter of time and politics.
Some would consider it too "Big Brother."
There's already squawking about red-light cameras.
I have mixed feelings about it.
Might not bother me if I was running the show.
Don't know yet, as it hasn't affected me and I don't know enough about
it.


They are testing the camera in the cop car that scans tag here as we
speak. It uses OCR to read the tag, the on board computer runs it and
a few seconds later the cop has a message flashing on the screen
telling him everything there is to know about the car and the owner..
This is not just for insurance, it is also Amber alerts, stolen cars,
wants, warrants or whatever else you can glean from a tag or the owner
of that tag.
This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ...
as soon as they justify the cost.

I noticed what appeared to be a radar gun mounted on the left rear bumper of a
Fairfax County Police car the other day. I wonder if that was the camera to
which you're referring.

Well...now I know. Glad you mentioned it.

http://www.elsag.com/detail.asp?i=195

Nincdepoop should get a charge out of that privacy invasion!

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:58:20 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:43:21 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


The buyer still has to come up with a tag and the insurance is tied to
that tag. I can't speak for everywhere but the wrong tag on a care
around here is a "felony stop". ( get out of the car, lay on the
ground, don't make any fast moves) The assumption is you are up to no
good, car theft at the minimum but you could be a drug courier or
driving a getaway car.

This all sounds like a paranoid fantasy to me. Most illegals are going
back and forth to work. They avoid doing stupid things and are just
regular people trying to get by. Sure, sometimes there are hardened
criminals doing dirty deeds. This has nothing to do with most people.

Most people just buy insurance and do things by the book.
Co-ordination between insurance companies and DMV's have no doubt
caused some people to buy insurance when they would have previously gone
uninsured.
Some of those systems can probably be gamed too.
Illegals most often just ride with a legal motorist.
But anybody who doesn't care about the law for whatever reason can buy a
used car on the street and steal tags. Happens all the time.
The smarter ones avoid vanity plates like CUDDLY4U.
Just go with something like 154 823L.
Cops aren't running tags enough to affect that.
But it could happen.
The tollway cameras and red light cameras could be advanced to go real
time and notify nearby cops of hits on stolen tags and lack of insurance
coverage.
Matter of time and politics.
Some would consider it too "Big Brother."
There's already squawking about red-light cameras.
I have mixed feelings about it.
Might not bother me if I was running the show.
Don't know yet, as it hasn't affected me and I don't know enough about
it.


They are testing the camera in the cop car that scans tag here as we
speak. It uses OCR to read the tag, the on board computer runs it and
a few seconds later the cop has a message flashing on the screen
telling him everything there is to know about the car and the owner..
This is not just for insurance, it is also Amber alerts, stolen cars,
wants, warrants or whatever else you can glean from a tag or the owner
of that tag.
This is still in testing but expect it on a cop car near you soon ...
as soon as they justify the cost.

I noticed what appeared to be a radar gun mounted on the left rear bumper of a
Fairfax County Police car the other day. I wonder if that was the camera to
which you're referring.

Well...now I know. Glad you mentioned it.

http://www.elsag.com/detail.asp?i=195

Nincdepoop should get a charge out of that privacy invasion!

I love the way they keep harping on it's ability to find stolen cars.
BFD, and bull****.. This is going to quickly morph into finding parking
ticked violators, tax evaders, and any other violation involving not
giving money to the state or town. They already use these in big cities
in conjunction with tow services and just drive around looking for folks
who owe parking tickets and such.

Obie's a day late and a dollar short......AGAIN.
Sounds like Obie's name is at the bottom of the current affairs reading
distribution list.
Your favorite source scroll down to "Africa"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
"The percentage of terrorist attacks in the West originating from the
Afghanistan-Pakistan (AfPak) border declined considerably from almost
100% to 75% in 2007, and to 50% in 2010, as Al-Qaeda shifted to
Somalia and Yemen."