On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:45:56 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:26:47 -0800, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:28:19 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:48:38 -0800, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:34:21 -0500, wrote:


We still need the cops to enforce the law. I am talking about the
insurance companies doing the bookkeeping since they already do most
of it anyway.

Why?

A better job for less money. Keeping 51 separate databases that do not
talk to each other is just stupid.

No... my question was why do we need the cops? Why not just let the
for-profit companies do it, since they're so much better than public
employees?

Cops are the ones with the guns and the red/blue lights on the roof.

Data processing geeks are the guys back at the county administration
building with tape on their glasses.

Big difference

False equivalency again?

The cops are corrupt. Replace them!

Totally non responsive

I guess you agree again

We are done with this one too.

Yes, you're done. You really need to get a clue about what is and what
isn't false equivalency. If I believe something is, I say why. When
you claim something is, you don't support yourself at all.

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:43:37 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:25:06 -0800, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 00:23:13 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:45:16 -0800, wrote:

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:56:06 -0500, wrote:


I really believe tags will go away soon and you will just have an RFID
tag in your car that links to all of the databases

I'm betting that most righties would be fine with it until they figure
out it applies to them, as well as Hispanics.

I'm sure most of them have a toll transponder if they live near a toll
road/bridge anyway. Same thing. It is just who wants to read it.

P A R A N O I D

I suppose you think the idea of scanning the RFID from your credit
cards is paranoid too.

No. I think that someone who believes the authorities have the time
and energy to scan every car that goes by on the street looking for
expired insurance is a bit paranoid.

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:42:00 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:22:36 -0800, wrote:


This is what they CAN do. (refering to the rights you give up in the
car)
The "excuse" is you look suspicious. That can be almost anything. I
was shaken several times in DC, mostly because I was out late at night
working. No real good reason to stop me but they did.
I usually made it go pretty fast because I had a good reason to be
there and I gave them permission to shake my car. After a while I got
to know all the cops and I didn't have any more problems.

You should have said no. I've said no. They don't like it, but they've
either got to arrest or move on.

Feel free to give up your civil rights. I won't.

You must live in ****ing Mayberry.

Try that on I-95. You are going to have a long night.

The Sacramento area is pretty conservative. I have no problem forcing
them to follow the law. I wouldn't do this in some hick town, but in
the Capital?



You're
backpeddling, as no cop is going to bother running plates on every car
he sees, so that he can find one that doesn't have insurance.

This works the other way. They get the list of the canceled policies
in their district and they go hunting.

Sure... right.


Again, all a bunch of a nonsense scenario that would never happen.

Which part? The inventory? That is simply a fact.
If for no other reason it is so you can't say they took the diamond
ring you had in the console.
If they do turn up a roach in your ashtray here, that is another
charge and they probably search your house.
This ain't California and pot is really illegal here. They are serious
about it. An ounce in your night stand makes you a trafficker (20
grams)

Sounds like the police are corrupt. Maybe we should replace them with
cops for hire.

They are enforcing the law, to let someone go would be corrupt.
This is a symptom of the failed drug war but as long as the US
government is pumping as much money into local law enforcement to
prosecute this war it will go on.
I bet you think asset forfeiture is a lie too.

I bet you're still on this thing about getting stopped for lacking
insurance vs. getting stopped for some other infraction and not being
able to prove you have insurance.


BTW why didn't you google this?

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_police...re gistration
If it's parked on public property, or you're caught operating that
vehicle, yes

I thought you don't like wiki?

When you change the subject I take it you agree with what I said

Take it any way you want.

http://car-insurance.onlineautoinsur...-legal-limits/
If a resident of Florida is caught owning or driving a vehicle without
a policy in force which meets the state’s requirements, the resident
may be ticketed. Such violations could result in hundreds of dollars
in citation fines or worse, the state of FL may impound vehicles in
violation. Impound fees are charged daily and towing fees could add up
quickly. Keep in mind that when a vehicle is impounded, the owner is
responsible for the impound fees and towing fees that may result in
hundreds of dollars additional to citation fines.


Which is what I posted. Key word... may.


Feel lucky?
Maybe not so much if you are the illegal Mexican we started this
ridiculous thread with.
You never answered the question. What should a cop do if you are
driving with no insurance? Just let you keep doing it?

Of course not, but that wasn't the issue. The issue was stopping
someone BECAUSE they don't have insurance. That DOESN'T happen.

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:33:25 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:19:30 -0800, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:01:56 -0500, wrote:


Stranded in the sense that the cop says he will tow the car when the
guy drives it out of the gate..

Sure. I'm positive he's sitting there day and night waiting for that
to happen. A bunch of nonsense.

He doesn't have to sit there all day, he also knows where you live and
probably has a pretty good idea when you get off of work.

Huh? This is his highest priority... he's going to sit there and worry
about your lack of insurance. Good grief!

He is a cop working traffic. What do you think his highest priority
is?

He's going to stop people for running lights, tail lights out, an
expired sticker, failing to yield, etc., not for "lack of insurance."


If the insurance company screwed up, you fix it with the insurance
company. The cop does not care. It would be the same thing if you said
you paid all of those parking tickets, they still tow your car once
the warrant is issued and you stay on the "tow" list until the
computer says you are cleared.
Certainly mistakes are made and people get arrested all the time over
mistakes but they still stay arrested until it gets straightened out.
You have really lived a sheltered life. You certainly do not seem to
know much about how cops operate.

They're not going to tow your car unless you've done something else.
That's just paranoia.

You would have to tell that to the employee who had their car towed.

Which employee is that? You never said anyone had their car towed. New
information or you're just making thing up to suit you?

Yes I did. I told you one of Judy's people did get stopped and had
their car towed. Try to keep up.

Did get stopped... FOR WHAT? Lack of insurance or something else and
then they discovered the "lack of insurance."

You definitely don't know how cops operate. They're mostly decent
people who give people a break when they can.

Yeah right. They do what they are told by their boss. Some cops give
some people a break sometime but don't count on it.

You seem to have a very low opinion of cops.

I understand what they do for a living and evidently you don't.
Have you actually spent any time with cops? (on duty or off)
This is not TV.

I've probably spent more than a few weeks with them during my
internships.

Most of their day is spent on very mundane tasks and if they "gave
everyone a break" their productivity numbers would not be up to par.
It is not really a "quota" but it is an expectation and there is some
degree of competition. Low producers do not get promoted
When the shift sargent says "we gave you a list of insurance
expirations, did you find any of them" he is not going to take "yeah I
found a couple but I let them go".

Which has nothing to do with the "insurance" claims you're making.

They are still left with the reality that if they knowingly let a
person drive without insurance, the department could be liable for a
wreck. Even if the suit was tossed, no Sheriff wants that showing up
in a campaign. This is a community of seniors, mostly republicans, who
think having insurance is a big deal. They have little patience with
deadbeats.

Sounds paranoid to me...

Welcome to the world lawyers have given us.

I am done with this.

Mostly seniors, mostly republicans, who are overly paranoid.

Yes, I don't doubt you're done with this.

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:19:51 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:17:04 -0800, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 01:53:02 -0500, wrote:


OK ex goat herders.
The idea that some guy, with no assets to his name but a rusty AKM,
walking around the mountains in Afghanistan is any real threat to the
US is preposterous.

Which has nothing to do with OBL.

Exactly, so why are we waging war on Afghanistan?

At the moment it's to stabilize the country as best as possible, so
that when we leave it won't return to Taliban hands. If you don't like
that, talk to Mr. Obama and the generals.

I am done with this.

Yea!

You said you were done.

No. I think that someone who believes the authorities have the time
and energy to scan every car that goes by on the street looking for
expired insurance is a bit paranoid.
He's done. Go away

Of course not, but that wasn't the issue. The issue was stopping
someone BECAUSE they don't have insurance. That DOESN'T happen.
Go away. Come back if and when you can support your statement with
facts. Girly intuition doesn't count.

Yes, I don't doubt you're done with this.

Babble on if you must, but no one is listening.