On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 02:55:02 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:18:40 -0800, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:57:46 -0500, wrote:



The fact still remains close to half of the households pay no income
tax at all.

You keep saying that as though it has some great weight in your
argument. There's a significant portion of the population that doesn't
pay income tax because they ARE POOR.

Only in America can we call someone making $45,000 a year "poor".

What do you think the tax burden is on someone making that kind of
money in one of the socialist countries?

Those "socialist" countries give a lot to people who pay those higher
percentage taxes. Thus the income side of the equation isn't as
important. Of course, you don't want social services for anyone who
"can't afford it". You're contradicting yourself.


I guarantee you, if you take one of those people who are not paying
any income tax now and show them what their Canadian tax bill would be
(the templates are on the web if you want to try it)
those people would rather keep their extra $15-20,000 and buy
insurance on the open market. Kids being who they are, they would
probably buy a car and just hope they never have to go to the doctor
tho.

You'd be wrong. Canadians actually get something for their money..
sorry if you don't like that.

I'm sure a kid probably would, and then when he gets in a wreck, he
should just "pay" for the medical help out of his own pocket, of
course he wouldn't have any money by then, but you don't care about
that.

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:12:51 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:18:40 -0800, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:57:46 -0500, wrote:



The fact still remains close to half of the households pay no income
tax at all.

You keep saying that as though it has some great weight in your
argument. There's a significant portion of the population that doesn't
pay income tax because they ARE POOR.

Only in America can we call someone making $45,000 a year "poor".

What do you think the tax burden is on someone making that kind of
money in one of the socialist countries?

Those "socialist" countries give a lot to people who pay those higher
percentage taxes. Thus the income side of the equation isn't as
important. Of course, you don't want social services for anyone who
"can't afford it". You're contradicting yourself.


I guarantee you, if you take one of those people who are not paying
any income tax now and show them what their Canadian tax bill would be
(the templates are on the web if you want to try it)
those people would rather keep their extra $15-20,000 and buy
insurance on the open market. Kids being who they are, they would
probably buy a car and just hope they never have to go to the doctor
tho.

Besides eye glasses I didn't need medical care until I got married and
started having children. I did break my thumb when I was 27 which
required out patient surgery but that was only a couple of grand.

So what?

You forgot about the free medical, dental, vision, life insurance. Basic
legal services are free too.


Yes, and the death benefits, the grieving family...
And and......................... Can't you ever complete a thought?

On 2/26/11 12:46 PM, True North wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message . ..


Besides eye glasses I didn't need medical care until I got married and
started having children. I did break my thumb when I was 27 which
required out patient surgery but that was only a couple of grand.

***********************

I thought you were crying about breaking your back when you froze up &
forgot to open your parachute??


No, no, no...he landed on his head. Nothing to break.

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 2/26/11 12:46 PM, True North wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message . ..


Besides eye glasses I didn't need medical care until I got married and
started having children. I did break my thumb when I was 27 which
required out patient surgery but that was only a couple of grand.

***********************

I thought you were crying about breaking your back when you froze up &
forgot to open your parachute??


No, no, no...he landed on his head. Nothing to break.

yuk, yuk, yuk, the weird uncle spews from the basement one more time...

In article ,
says...

I guarantee you, if you take one of those people who are not paying
any income tax now and show them what their Canadian tax bill would be
(the templates are on the web if you want to try it)
those people would rather keep their extra $15-20,000 and buy
insurance on the open market. Kids being who they are, they would
probably buy a car and just hope they never have to go to the doctor
tho.

Your "guarantee" wouldn't be worth the paper it's written on.
No logic there.
Those not paying taxes now couldn't come up with $15-20k.
That's why they call it "socialist" health care.
Besides, all these so-called "socialist" countries with universal health
care are democracies last I knew.
They can vote in politicians who would pass law to mimic the U.S.
atrocity health system.
Ever wonder why that doesn't happen?

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:33:55 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:30:00 -0500, BAR wrote:

Drilling in all of Alaska, off the coast of Calif., the Gulf of Mexico
and the Eastern Seaboard will solve the price problem.

At best you might be able to kick the can down the road another 10
years or so. Long term we need policies that encourage the switch to
other forms of energy.

Agree! 100%

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:30:00 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 2/24/2011 11:04 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:43:19 -0500,
wrote:

On 2/24/2011 4:22 PM, True North wrote:

$1.17 per liter today...expect it to be around $1.20 or 1.21
tomorrow.
A liter is what? About a quart? You're close to the predicted $5 a
gallon already.
1 gallon [US, liquid] = 3.785 411 784 liter
That would be 4.58 per gal. Looks like canada will win the race to $5.

Drilling in all of Alaska, off the coast of Calif., the Gulf of Mexico
and the Eastern Seaboard will solve the price problem.

Not a chance in hell that will affect prices; supply, maybe, but
prices.... nope. Stocks have been increasing since the first of the year,
so has the price....

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the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do.
So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor.
Catch the trade winds in your sails.
Explore. Dream. Discover." - Unknown

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In article , princecraft49
@gmail.com says...

"BAR" wrote in message . ..


Besides eye glasses I didn't need medical care until I got married and
started having children. I did break my thumb when I was 27 which
required out patient surgery but that was only a couple of grand.

***********************

I thought you were crying about breaking your back when you froze up &
forgot to open your parachute??

Nope. My only injury skydiving was breaking my left thumb. I never had
to use my reserve parachute.

I did see people bounce (hit the ground at 120 mph with no parachute
deployed), break both thigh bones, shatter vertebrae and more. Skydiving
isn't a sport for pussies.

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:04:24 GMT, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:30:00 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 2/24/2011 11:04 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:43:19 -0500,
wrote:

On 2/24/2011 4:22 PM, True North wrote:

$1.17 per liter today...expect it to be around $1.20 or 1.21
tomorrow.
A liter is what? About a quart? You're close to the predicted $5 a
gallon already.
1 gallon [US, liquid] = 3.785 411 784 liter
That would be 4.58 per gal. Looks like canada will win the race to $5.

Drilling in all of Alaska, off the coast of Calif., the Gulf of Mexico
and the Eastern Seaboard will solve the price problem.

Not a chance in hell that will affect prices; supply, maybe, but
prices.... nope. Stocks have been increasing since the first of the year,
so has the price....

Only thing that's increasing is oil company profits.