In article ,
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On 10/18/10 2:00 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Jim" wrote in message
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On 10/18/2010 9:31 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message
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On 10/17/10 9:56 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 03:14:21 -0700 (PDT), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:

The Carmax one had all the bells and whistles, which can add
$10-15K
pretty
quickly.

You may not need all that. The only extras I got on my Tundra
were
the V8, 4wd/off road, and trailer towing.

What's that go for new?

About $30K when I bought it in the fall of 2001. It also has the
extended cab (minimal back seat).



Fascinating that littleman freak, who positions himself as an
internet
expert, can't find the price of a new vehicle on the internet.

The invoice on a 2010 4WD Tundra extended cab is $28,000 and change.


http://www.edmunds.com/new/2010/toyo...54/prices.html


So, littleman freak can buy a new truck or pay his hospital bill.
Bets?
:)



We don't see any of the regular cab/small bed version up here.
That would be perfect for me.
One thing... I sat in one at the dealership while getting the RAV4
it's 6
month service, and found that the roof/windshield seemed to crowd
in on
me...same as the Tacoma.
Maybe the seat was set too high...??

Did you have your wife drive the RAV4 in so that the mechanics wouldn't
laugh when a man showed up driving it?

Sorry, up here men aren't insecure about their manliness.
Good old fashioned common sense still seems to prevail.

It's loogy. Manliness is not an option with him. He beats up little
girls.

I wondered why he disappeared.
Some believe that it's because of illness in the family, but I think
he's been outed for what he is and now hides behind spoofing to spread
his crap.
If it's not him, then shame on the low life imitating him in here.


Try to imagine how low a low life you'd have to be to deliberately
imitate loogy. I think it is loogy. It writes like loogy, it repeats
itself like loogy, it has the same issues as loogy.

Yes, you ARE a low life scum spoofer, that's for sure.

On 15/10/2010 11:24 AM, John H wrote:
Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups are too damn
expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this:

http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo

Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports gives it a great
rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds.

Why not just get a F-150?

http://www.edmunds.com/inventory/vin...from=&priceto=

Cheaper too.
--
Socialism is having nothing and wanting to share it with everyone.

On Oct 18, 1:00*am, "Califbill" wrote:
"*e#c" wrote in message

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On Oct 17, 7:24 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:35:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Oct 16, 2:30 pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/16/10 3:22 PM, Tim wrote:

I'd be nervous of him
handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than his
current
one.

Well, I'm sure John has driven an *M35-A2 *Oshkosh down places that
wern't considered a road before.

Pulling a truck and a camper or boat should be a breeze.

Depends on the driver and the circumstances. I've seen large travel
trailers and large boats literally virtually jackknife on the road in
front of us when the driver swerved for one reason or another. In my
opinion, too many trailer towers drive too damned fast for conditions
and their abilities. 60-65 mph should be the legal limit when you are
towing a trailer and there should be a mandatory road safety course
plus
a notation on your license before you can tow anything bigger than the
smallest trailer.
--
Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!

In Illinois the max speed for anything pulling a trailer is 60 mph. I
will agree that there are alot of simpletons out there who go too fast
on the interstates and demand too much out of their towing vehicle.

I blame that alot on the pick up builders advertizing outragous
pulling capacities with minimal safety equipment like... brakes.
especially on the trailer.

In Virginia the trailers must be safety inspected annually. Anything over
about
3000lbs (lnot sure of the number), must have trailer brakes. These are
checked
annually.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Sucks to be in Virginny.... Up here, if the trailer originally didn't
come with brakes, it don't need them.

Sucks to be you. *If you are in BC and the trailer is some weight you must
have brakes, and if it is dual axle all 4 wheels require brakes. *I did not
see any exemption for shoddy built trailers.

My trailer was built in 1977 by a Company in Woodstock, Ontario. It
did NOT come with brakes, therefore, I do NOT have to install them.
Stay the **** in BC....you know **** about Ontario Laws.

On Oct 18, 9:46*am, Jim wrote:
On 10/18/2010 8:43 AM, Secular Humoresque wrote:

In , says...

On 10/15/10 7:13 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
* *I have been
pretty busy the last few days with Jess back on track as it were after
teh injury

Racing injury or aftermath of a date with loogy?

Why do you care, spoofer?

I doubt if he or anyone else cares, loogy.

Yes, loogy. Your posts read just like loogy's. Either you are loogy or
you are just as ****ed up as he is. Others have noticed this. So, you
ought to change your handle here to loogy.

Being thought of as Loogy if you are not...the horror of it. :)

Have you broken the arms of any bike-riding little girls lately, loogy?

We'll just call him Loogy, anyway. You're right, he IS as ****ed in
the head as Loogy.

On Oct 18, 12:51*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:46:16 -0400, Jim wrote:
On 10/18/2010 8:43 AM, Secular Humoresque wrote:
In , says...

On 10/15/10 7:13 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
* *I have been
pretty busy the last few days with Jess back on track as it were after
teh injury

Racing injury or aftermath of a date with loogy?

Why do you care, spoofer?

I doubt if he or anyone else cares, loogy.

Yes, loogy. Your posts read just like loogy's. Either you are loogy or
you are just as ****ed up as he is. Others have noticed this. So, you
ought to change your handle here to loogy.

Being thought of as Loogy if you are not...the horror of it. :)

Have you broken the arms of any bike-riding little girls lately, loogy?

Harry, to intimate that Loogy broke his daughter's arms is disgusting and sick.

Just how low do you need to go for attention?
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Harry, to intimate that Loogy ....

What the **** kind of language is THAT, Herring? Having a Vietnam
flashback, teat-sucker???

"*e#c" wrote in message
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On Oct 18, 1:00 am, "Califbill" wrote:
"*e#c" wrote in message

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On Oct 17, 7:24 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:35:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Oct 16, 2:30 pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/16/10 3:22 PM, Tim wrote:

I'd be nervous of him
handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than
his
current
one.

Well, I'm sure John has driven an M35-A2 Oshkosh down places
that
wern't considered a road before.

Pulling a truck and a camper or boat should be a breeze.

Depends on the driver and the circumstances. I've seen large travel
trailers and large boats literally virtually jackknife on the road
in
front of us when the driver swerved for one reason or another. In
my
opinion, too many trailer towers drive too damned fast for
conditions
and their abilities. 60-65 mph should be the legal limit when you
are
towing a trailer and there should be a mandatory road safety course
plus
a notation on your license before you can tow anything bigger than
the
smallest trailer.
--
Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!

In Illinois the max speed for anything pulling a trailer is 60 mph. I
will agree that there are alot of simpletons out there who go too
fast
on the interstates and demand too much out of their towing vehicle.

I blame that alot on the pick up builders advertizing outragous
pulling capacities with minimal safety equipment like... brakes.
especially on the trailer.

In Virginia the trailers must be safety inspected annually. Anything
over
about
3000lbs (lnot sure of the number), must have trailer brakes. These are
checked
annually.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Sucks to be in Virginny.... Up here, if the trailer originally didn't
come with brakes, it don't need them.

Sucks to be you. If you are in BC and the trailer is some weight you
must
have brakes, and if it is dual axle all 4 wheels require brakes. I did
not
see any exemption for shoddy built trailers.

My trailer was built in 1977 by a Company in Woodstock, Ontario. It
did NOT come with brakes, therefore, I do NOT have to install them.
Stay the **** in BC....you know **** about Ontario Laws.

Better read the laws. Some change. You get in an accident while towing,
and if you are required to have brakes, you are automatically at fault. any
good attorney will stick it to you.

"*e#c" wrote in message
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On Oct 18, 1:00 am, "Califbill" wrote:
"*e#c" wrote in message

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On Oct 17, 7:24 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:35:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Oct 16, 2:30 pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/16/10 3:22 PM, Tim wrote:

I'd be nervous of him
handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than
his
current
one.

Well, I'm sure John has driven an M35-A2 Oshkosh down places
that
wern't considered a road before.

Pulling a truck and a camper or boat should be a breeze.

Depends on the driver and the circumstances. I've seen large travel
trailers and large boats literally virtually jackknife on the road
in
front of us when the driver swerved for one reason or another. In
my
opinion, too many trailer towers drive too damned fast for
conditions
and their abilities. 60-65 mph should be the legal limit when you
are
towing a trailer and there should be a mandatory road safety course
plus
a notation on your license before you can tow anything bigger than
the
smallest trailer.
--
Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!

In Illinois the max speed for anything pulling a trailer is 60 mph. I
will agree that there are alot of simpletons out there who go too
fast
on the interstates and demand too much out of their towing vehicle.

I blame that alot on the pick up builders advertizing outragous
pulling capacities with minimal safety equipment like... brakes.
especially on the trailer.

In Virginia the trailers must be safety inspected annually. Anything
over
about
3000lbs (lnot sure of the number), must have trailer brakes. These are
checked
annually.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Sucks to be in Virginny.... Up here, if the trailer originally didn't
come with brakes, it don't need them.

Sucks to be you. If you are in BC and the trailer is some weight you
must
have brakes, and if it is dual axle all 4 wheels require brakes. I did
not
see any exemption for shoddy built trailers.

My trailer was built in 1977 by a Company in Woodstock, Ontario. It
did NOT come with brakes, therefore, I do NOT have to install them.
Stay the **** in BC....you know **** about Ontario Laws.

Read the laws, or have someone read them to you, if you have reading
comprehension problems.
http://www.brakebuddy.com/Towing-Laws
http://www.princessauto.com/provinci...er-regulations

On Oct 18, 10:52*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"*e#c" wrote in message

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On Oct 18, 1:00 am, "Califbill" wrote:
"*e#c" wrote in message

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On Oct 17, 7:24 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:35:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Oct 16, 2:30 pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/16/10 3:22 PM, Tim wrote:

I'd be nervous of him
handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than
his
current
one.

Well, I'm sure John has driven an *M35-A2 *Oshkosh down places
that
wern't considered a road before.

Pulling a truck and a camper or boat should be a breeze.

Depends on the driver and the circumstances. I've seen large travel
trailers and large boats literally virtually jackknife on the road
in
front of us when the driver swerved for one reason or another. In
my
opinion, too many trailer towers drive too damned fast for
conditions
and their abilities. 60-65 mph should be the legal limit when you
are
towing a trailer and there should be a mandatory road safety course
plus
a notation on your license before you can tow anything bigger than
the
smallest trailer.
--
Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!

In Illinois the max speed for anything pulling a trailer is 60 mph.. I
will agree that there are alot of simpletons out there who go too
fast
on the interstates and demand too much out of their towing vehicle..

I blame that alot on the pick up builders advertizing outragous
pulling capacities with minimal safety equipment like... brakes.
especially on the trailer.

In Virginia the trailers must be safety inspected annually. Anything
over
about
3000lbs (lnot sure of the number), must have trailer brakes. These are
checked
annually.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Sucks to be in Virginny.... Up here, if the trailer originally didn't
come with brakes, it don't need them.

Sucks to be you. *If you are in BC and the trailer is some weight you
must
have brakes, and if it is dual axle all 4 wheels require brakes. *I did
not
see any exemption for shoddy built trailers.

My trailer was built in 1977 by a Company in Woodstock, Ontario. It
did NOT come with brakes, therefore, I do NOT have to install them.
Stay the **** in BC....you know **** about Ontario Laws.

Read the laws, or have someone read them to you, if you have reading
comprehension problems.http://www.brakebuddy.com/Towing-Law...er-regulations

Gee, why didn't the Ministry of Transportation, during a roadside
inspection tell me to install brakes when THEY inspected the trailer,
Detective ****stick?

Will you be supplying more " Clip and Paste" ?

On Oct 18, 10:52*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"*e#c" wrote in message

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On Oct 18, 1:00 am, "Califbill" wrote:
"*e#c" wrote in message

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On Oct 17, 7:24 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:35:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Oct 16, 2:30 pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/16/10 3:22 PM, Tim wrote:

I'd be nervous of him
handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than
his
current
one.

Well, I'm sure John has driven an *M35-A2 *Oshkosh down places
that
wern't considered a road before.

Pulling a truck and a camper or boat should be a breeze.

Depends on the driver and the circumstances. I've seen large travel
trailers and large boats literally virtually jackknife on the road
in
front of us when the driver swerved for one reason or another. In
my
opinion, too many trailer towers drive too damned fast for
conditions
and their abilities. 60-65 mph should be the legal limit when you
are
towing a trailer and there should be a mandatory road safety course
plus
a notation on your license before you can tow anything bigger than
the
smallest trailer.
--
Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!

In Illinois the max speed for anything pulling a trailer is 60 mph.. I
will agree that there are alot of simpletons out there who go too
fast
on the interstates and demand too much out of their towing vehicle..

I blame that alot on the pick up builders advertizing outragous
pulling capacities with minimal safety equipment like... brakes.
especially on the trailer.

In Virginia the trailers must be safety inspected annually. Anything
over
about
3000lbs (lnot sure of the number), must have trailer brakes. These are
checked
annually.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Sucks to be in Virginny.... Up here, if the trailer originally didn't
come with brakes, it don't need them.

Sucks to be you. *If you are in BC and the trailer is some weight you
must
have brakes, and if it is dual axle all 4 wheels require brakes. *I did
not
see any exemption for shoddy built trailers.

My trailer was built in 1977 by a Company in Woodstock, Ontario. It
did NOT come with brakes, therefore, I do NOT have to install them.
Stay the **** in BC....you know **** about Ontario Laws.

Read the laws, or have someone read them to you, if you have reading
comprehension problems.http://www.brakebuddy.com/Towing-Law...er-regulations

Gee, my combination does NOT exceed the weight limit. Are you always
getting your ass handed to you, Professor?

On Oct 18, 10:52*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"*e#c" wrote in message

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On Oct 18, 1:00 am, "Califbill" wrote:
"*e#c" wrote in message

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On Oct 17, 7:24 am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:35:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Oct 16, 2:30 pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/16/10 3:22 PM, Tim wrote:

I'd be nervous of him
handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than
his
current
one.

Well, I'm sure John has driven an *M35-A2 *Oshkosh down places
that
wern't considered a road before.

Pulling a truck and a camper or boat should be a breeze.

Depends on the driver and the circumstances. I've seen large travel
trailers and large boats literally virtually jackknife on the road
in
front of us when the driver swerved for one reason or another. In
my
opinion, too many trailer towers drive too damned fast for
conditions
and their abilities. 60-65 mph should be the legal limit when you
are
towing a trailer and there should be a mandatory road safety course
plus
a notation on your license before you can tow anything bigger than
the
smallest trailer.
--
Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!

In Illinois the max speed for anything pulling a trailer is 60 mph.. I
will agree that there are alot of simpletons out there who go too
fast
on the interstates and demand too much out of their towing vehicle..

I blame that alot on the pick up builders advertizing outragous
pulling capacities with minimal safety equipment like... brakes.
especially on the trailer.

In Virginia the trailers must be safety inspected annually. Anything
over
about
3000lbs (lnot sure of the number), must have trailer brakes. These are
checked
annually.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

Sucks to be in Virginny.... Up here, if the trailer originally didn't
come with brakes, it don't need them.

Sucks to be you. *If you are in BC and the trailer is some weight you
must
have brakes, and if it is dual axle all 4 wheels require brakes. *I did
not
see any exemption for shoddy built trailers.

My trailer was built in 1977 by a Company in Woodstock, Ontario. It
did NOT come with brakes, therefore, I do NOT have to install them.
Stay the **** in BC....you know **** about Ontario Laws.

Read the laws, or have someone read them to you, if you have reading
comprehension problems.http://www.brakebuddy.com/Towing-Law...er-regulations

It's too bad that my combination does NOT attain the weight stated. A
valiant, yet futile attempt.

Do you always like having your ass handed to you, Professor?