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On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:09:11 -0700, jps wrote:

Funny. I see that Rick Sanchez got canned from CNN for saying his
Jewish bosses and Jon Stewart are hardly "oppressed minorities."
He only spoke the truth, and that got him fired.
Maybe he really got fired because he's an asshole who thinks because his
name is Sanchez he is automatically "oppressed," but who knows?

Jim - If ignorance works for you, go for it.

He got fired for spitting in his boss's face.

When was the last time you saw that happen and not have the spitting
fool idiot loose his job?

It was a short number of generations past when Jews were regularly set
apart by this very society, just like blacks, asians, etc. There's a
lot of people still alive who remember. And their children are still
alive who know what was done to their relatives during WWII.

A few have done well for themselves but guys like Sanchez are too
stupid to understand that they're the exception and not part of a
grand scheme of Jews taking over the world.

He played right into well-hewn stereotypes and ****ed into the wind.

It serves him right that he got **** in his face and lost his job. His
"apology" was pathetic and the only crew who'd likely hire him now is
the same group that'd love having Lou Dobbs.

Maybe he can join those idiots on the couch at Fox & Friends.


Hmmm A guy says Jews control the media and gets fired faster than
Shirley Sherrod. That sure proves he was wrong to me.. ;-)

It proves that he was a racist moron who was too full of himself to me.

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On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 16:53:19 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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?? This is your logic not mine. You're trying to equate the US with Nazi
Germany. It doesn't hold.


You are the one who defines "war" as "troops on the ground".
I am just trying to understand that.
We blockaded Iraq, denied them the use of the air space over their
country with deadly force and killed a lot of innocent civilians.
All of those things are acts of war.
You prefer the "death from the air" method of warfare. In 1940 they
called that "The Blitz"
You are only upset that we actually put some of our people at risk by
taking the next logical step.

Sorry, but you're way off base on this. It's not reasonable to equate the
two countries.

I am not equating the two wars or the two countries, only pointing out
bombing someone is an act of war. You don't think it is a war unless
we have boots on the ground.

I never said that. I said that the only time we actually had troops on the
ground in Iraq was during Bush I.

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On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 16:54:55 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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And your point? We went in to get bin laden. We would have settled this
without a war if the Taliban had turned him over. They didn't.

... so we are going to kill men, women and children until they do.

No wonder they hate us there.

We do it less and less. It's against policy and every incident is looked
at.
See Petraeus.

Now it is the CIA flying drones but the death count among the
civilians is still going up.
Haven't you been watching the news at all this week? Pakistan has
blockaded out supplies over this exact thing. They are also not doing
anything to protect the trucks stalled behind the blockade and they
are being blown up as fast as the Taliban can get to them.



You seem mightily concerned about AQ, but not so much with reducing the
violent attacks in Afg. and around the world.

Pakistan closed the road back in 2008 for a few days also.

Get over it.

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On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 16:55:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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There are plenty of Democrats who feel the same way.
Nobody really has a better idea about what to do with the detainees.
Maybe they should load them all up on a surplus C5A and take them back
to Afghanistan. Then they could have a problem in the air, the plane
crashes and the crew were the only ones with parachutes. ;-)

Even the innocent ones? How do we know who's actually a terrorist?

You don't seem that concerned with the 6000 we killed in Afghanistan.
Isn't that just collateral damage?

?? I have a great concern for them. So? What's that got to do with
potentially innocent people in Gitmo?

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On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 02:14:58 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 00:36:45 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 16:55:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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There are plenty of Democrats who feel the same way.
Nobody really has a better idea about what to do with the detainees.
Maybe they should load them all up on a surplus C5A and take them back
to Afghanistan. Then they could have a problem in the air, the plane
crashes and the crew were the only ones with parachutes. ;-)

Even the innocent ones? How do we know who's actually a terrorist?

You don't seem that concerned with the 6000 we killed in Afghanistan.
Isn't that just collateral damage?

and the 60,000 killed by the taliban?

you're right. i dont give a rat's ass about how many of them we kill.
25% of their children die before their 1st birthday. and all they care
about is their idiotic religion.

No I don't care how many the Taliban kill. We should get the hell out
of there and let them all kill each other if they want. They won't be
holding up Hellfire missile parts and blaming us.

Really? You don't care? Wow. That's quite a statement.

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On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 02:12:11 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 00:41:03 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:00:40 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

No wonder they hate us there.

who gives a **** if they hate us. if they leave us alone that's
enough.

They are more likely to screw with us if we are screwing with them.

we arent screwing with them. afghanistan attacked us. that has some
consequences. just ask the japanese.

Afghanistan never attacked us. That is as valid as the WMD argument
... from the same guy, your hero GW Bush.


The Taliban were in control of the country. They supported and protected bin
laden. We asked them to hand him over. They refused. He had killed 1000s of
our people. And, your response is... do nothing. At least Bush initially
went after bin laden.

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On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 21:55:42 -0700, jps wrote:

Yeah right, a partisan rant is fair I guess.

BTW history may say the Iraq war deposed one of the worst dictators of
the 20th century and Afghanistan accomplished nothing ... at about the
same price.

Gosh, it's a good thing Idi Amin didn't have oil under his country.

You notice that since Clinton got his nose bloodied in Africa we are
not really doing much war making there.

Actually, we have lots of people on the ground there... special ops I think
they're called. But, feel free to blame Clinton.

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On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 04:15:34 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

Gosh, it's a good thing Idi Amin didn't have oil under his country.

You notice that since Clinton got his nose bloodied in Africa we are
not really doing much war making there.

we were lifesaving there. no point in stopping genocide if everyone's
in favor of it


Are you saying a black person's life is less valuable than an
Afghani's life? You just finished a rant about how many Afghans the
Taliban kill.

Racist

Hmm... well, perhaps if we hadn't invaded Iraq (for no reason), we'd be able
to do something in say Rwanda? Gee.. you think?

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On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:38:51 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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In all fairness....

Yeah right, a partisan rant is fair I guess.

BTW history may say the Iraq war deposed one of the worst dictators of
the 20th century and Afghanistan accomplished nothing ... at about the
same price.

BTW, we are not in the business of deposing dictators and Bush is the one
that failed early and ugly in Afghanistan, Obama just doesn't have the
balls
to turn it off.


no, he has the good moral sense not to abandon a commitment we made.
you're confused

He promised to bring everyone home during the campaign, not honor any
imaginary commitment.
Karzai wants to throw out all private security and is talking about throwing
out all contractors. Obama may have a convenient out.

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On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 04:15:34 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

Gosh, it's a good thing Idi Amin didn't have oil under his country.

You notice that since Clinton got his nose bloodied in Africa we are
not really doing much war making there.

we were lifesaving there. no point in stopping genocide if everyone's
in favor of it


Are you saying a black person's life is less valuable than an
Afghani's life? You just finished a rant about how many Afghans the
Taliban kill.

Racist

He tagged you Bob! haha!