In all fairness....

* Attacked and took over two countries.
* Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
* Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
* Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month
period.
* Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
* First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
* First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
* First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by
any president in US history.
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over
the worst security failure in US history.
* Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other
president in US history.
* In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
*Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president
in US history.
* Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.
* Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any
president in US history.
* Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any
president since the advent of television.
* Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any
president in US history.
* Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to
intervene when corruption was revealed.
* Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use
the national reserves as past presidents have.
* Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
* Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take
to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for
protest against any person in the history of mankind.
* Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
* My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US
history.
* Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history.
(the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has an Exxon oil tanker
named after her).
* First president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union
simultaneously go bankrupt.
* Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in
any country in the history of the world.
* First president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation
of a sovereign nation.
* Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of
the United States.
* Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more
than any president in US history.
* First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US
from the human rights commission.
* First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US
from the elections monitoring board.
* Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of
congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.
* Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
* Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
* Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default
no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
* First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors
(during the 2002 US elections).
* All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign
donations.
* My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest
corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of
Enron Corporation).
* Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US
history.
* First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation
against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
* First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then
lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
* First US president to establish a secret shadow government.
* Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a
year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the
biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).
* With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile
Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
* First US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe
(71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
* First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more
threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
* Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government
contracts.
* Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated
US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for
government contracts.
* Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.
* Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of
our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no
leads and zero suspects.
* In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented
any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of
the United States.
* Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other
president in US history.
* In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades,
possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.
* Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than
two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.


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Nom=de=Plume

On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:38:51 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

In all fairness....

* Attacked and took over two countries.
* Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.

how DARE you!!! he's RICH!! he's WHITE...he's a CHRISTIAN!!

he helped the rich get richer while ensuring the middle class stayed
in its place...

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:38:51 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

In all fairness....

Yeah right, a partisan rant is fair I guess.

BTW history may say the Iraq war deposed one of the worst dictators of
the 20th century and Afghanistan accomplished nothing ... at about the
same price.

The Iraq war was started not because of some ugly dictator. It was started
because of the neocon wetdream vision of transforming the middle east into a
laissez-faire capitalism.

The Afg. war WOULD have accomplished more than it has if Bush had actually
finished the job. He was the worst failure in US history.

Here. I posted it again for you.

* Attacked and took over two countries.
* Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
* Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
* Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month
period.
* Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
* First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
* First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
* First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by
any president in US history.
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over
the worst security failure in US history.
* Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other
president in US history.
* In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
*Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president
in US history.
* Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.
* Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any
president in US history.
* Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any
president since the advent of television.
* Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any
president in US history.
* Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to
intervene when corruption was revealed.
* Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use
the national reserves as past presidents have.
* Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
* Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take
to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for
protest against any person in the history of mankind.
* Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
* My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US
history.
* Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history.
(the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has an Exxon oil tanker
named after her).
* First president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union
simultaneously go bankrupt.
* Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in
any country in the history of the world.
* First president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation
of a sovereign nation.
* Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of
the United States.
* Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more
than any president in US history.
* First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US
from the human rights commission.
* First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US
from the elections monitoring board.
* Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of
congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.
* Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
* Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
* Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default
no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
* First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors
(during the 2002 US elections).
* All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign
donations.
* My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest
corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of
Enron Corporation).
* Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US
history.
* First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation
against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
* First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then
lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
* First US president to establish a secret shadow government.
* Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a
year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the
biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).
* With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile
Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
* First US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe
(71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
* First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more
threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
* Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government
contracts.
* Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated
US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for
government contracts.
* Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.
* Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of
our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no
leads and zero suspects.
* In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented
any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of
the United States.
* Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other
president in US history.
* In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades,
possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.
* Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than
two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

On 10/7/10 1:48 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:38:51 -0700,
wrote:

In all fairness....

Yeah right, a partisan rant is fair I guess.

BTW history may say the Iraq war deposed one of the worst dictators of
the 20th century and Afghanistan accomplished nothing ... at about the
same price.

Nothing was accomplished in Iraq, either, except to make it easier for
Iran to dominate that part of the world. As for the "rant" about Bush,
it is important to remember how badly he ****ed this country and the
rest of the world. His screw-ups brought us to where we are today.




--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 01:48:44 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:38:51 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

In all fairness....

Yeah right, a partisan rant is fair I guess.

BTW history may say the Iraq war deposed one of the worst dictators of
the 20th century

so what?

and Afghanistan accomplished nothing ... at about the
same price.

really? where are the taliban? they still rule kabul and have al qaida
training camps in afghanistan?

On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:04:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

On 10/7/10 1:48 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:38:51 -0700,
wrote:

In all fairness....

Yeah right, a partisan rant is fair I guess.

BTW history may say the Iraq war deposed one of the worst dictators of
the 20th century and Afghanistan accomplished nothing ... at about the
same price.

Nothing was accomplished in Iraq, either, except to make it easier for
Iran to dominate that part of the world. As for the "rant" about Bush,
it is important to remember how badly he ****ed this country and the
rest of the world. His screw-ups brought us to where we are today.

but bush is rich and white. he enriches the wealthy while wrecking
the middle class

and the right loves this.

it's the american dream

"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message ...
On 10/7/10 1:48 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:38:51 -0700,
wrote:

In all fairness....

Yeah right, a partisan rant is fair I guess.

BTW history may say the Iraq war deposed one of the worst dictators of
the 20th century and Afghanistan accomplished nothing ... at about the
same price.

Nothing was accomplished in Iraq, either, except to make it easier for
Iran to dominate that part of the world. As for the "rant" about Bush,
it is important to remember how badly he ****ed this country and the
rest of the world. His screw-ups brought us to where we are today.




--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


Short term memory is the first to go in Krause's terrible disease. Nothing outscores the ****ing we are taking short term at the hands of the democratic powers that be. I guess Krause will continue to rant on about GWB as this is all he has left of his memory. God speed and RIP Harry N Krause.

--
I'm the real Harry, and I post from a PC or a MAC, as virtually everyone knows.
If a post is attributed to me, and it isn't from a PC or a MAC, it's from an ID
spoofer who hasn't the balls to post with his current ID
Boatless Harry

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:38:51 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

In all fairness....

Yeah right, a partisan rant is fair I guess.

BTW history may say the Iraq war deposed one of the worst dictators of
the 20th century and Afghanistan accomplished nothing ... at about the
same price.

BTW, we are not in the business of deposing dictators and Bush is the one
that failed early and ugly in Afghanistan, Obama just doesn't have the balls
to turn it off.

wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 00:50:50 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:38:51 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

In all fairness....

Yeah right, a partisan rant is fair I guess.

BTW history may say the Iraq war deposed one of the worst dictators of
the 20th century and Afghanistan accomplished nothing ... at about the
same price.

The Iraq war was started not because of some ugly dictator. It was started
because of the neocon wetdream vision of transforming the middle east into
a
laissez-faire capitalism.

Iraq all about Israel, as the upcoming Iran war will be.

Nope. The Jews didn't do it this time. It was the right-wing Christians.

Afg was and is a useless war. There is nothing to win there.

Nope. The Taliban supported and protected bin laden. There was and possibly
still is something to stablize.

The Afg. war WOULD have accomplished more than it has if Bush had actually
finished the job. He was the worst failure in US history.

Here. I posted it again for you.

Repeating a rant does not make it any more true.
I am sure I can go to some GOP site and get a list that polished GWs
turd like the list you posted about Clinton but I bet history puts
them all in the same category.
They will be presidents with no nation changing accomplishments and
each have one interesting anecdote. Bush will be remembere\d for Bush
v Gore and Clinton will be remembered as being the second president to
be impeached, with the blow jobs being the snicker factor that makes
it memorable.

wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 06:04:07 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

On 10/7/10 1:48 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:38:51 -0700,
wrote:

In all fairness....

Yeah right, a partisan rant is fair I guess.

BTW history may say the Iraq war deposed one of the worst dictators of
the 20th century and Afghanistan accomplished nothing ... at about the
same price.

Nothing was accomplished in Iraq, either, except to make it easier for
Iran to dominate that part of the world. As for the "rant" about Bush,
it is important to remember how badly he ****ed this country and the
rest of the world. His screw-ups brought us to where we are today.

I agree we had no business being in Iraq but Clinton and Bush 1 were
there keeping the fire stoked. We should have come home in 1991.

Nope. They were containing Saddam. It worked.

This was still all about Israel. If we didn't take out Saddam, Israel
was going to try to and we would have been drawn is as Israel's ally
when the war escalated, a far worse position than just being the
cowboys with bad intel.

This has little to do with Israel, even though that's a convenient
forgetting of the facts.

Unfortunately our Afghan war has still put is in the position of being
at war with Islam.

Only in the eyes of the radicals. Unfortunately, they're very good at
spreading that lie. Look at the hatred people in _this_ country have toward
Muslims.