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On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 13:06:46 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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The synopsis seems to indicate the normal course of events for getting
legislation done, except that there's a corrosive environment
promulgated
by
Republicans. I see no mention of any secret meeting in Reid's office.


You didn't watch the same show I did then or you were in the bathroom.
They even name the UHC lobbyists who wrote the bill.
Nobody said it was a secret meeting either. That was just where the
text of the bill came from.

If I get a minute I will clip out that segment and put it up on my web
site as an MP3.

I never said I watched the show. I looked at the synopsis.

Yet you still feel competent to refute the findings. Amazing.
Bear in mind this is PBS, not Fox.

The synopsis was misleading? Well, ok.


So, it's somehow immoral to meet in someone's office? It's not clear that
they actually did meet there, but it sure is a great Republican talking
point... it's REID's fault!

It is immoral to write a bill behind closed doors that affects the
whole country

That's pretty much how legislation has been done for the last, what, 100
years? more?

So, if it was behind closed doors, then it was hidden? Just checking.

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On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 16:42:01 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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If I get a minute I will clip out that segment and put it up on my web
site as an MP3.

I never said I watched the show. I looked at the synopsis.

Yet you still feel competent to refute the findings. Amazing.
Bear in mind this is PBS, not Fox.

The synopsis was misleading? Well, ok.

I am just saying you can't put all of a 56 minute show in a 3 line
synopsis.
I have it ripped into an MP3 file and I will clip out the part I am
talking about later tonight. Maybe you should hear the deal they made
with Billy Touzin too (the Pharma lobbyist)
I can put the whole 56 minutes on my web site if you like. (burn you a
CD or whatever) It is pretty interesting.

I can probably get it... I think I found a link to view it directly. I'm
sure it's interesting! Sort of like making sausage.

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On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 19:29:21 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 16:42:01 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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If I get a minute I will clip out that segment and put it up on my
web
site as an MP3.

I never said I watched the show. I looked at the synopsis.

Yet you still feel competent to refute the findings. Amazing.
Bear in mind this is PBS, not Fox.

The synopsis was misleading? Well, ok.

I am just saying you can't put all of a 56 minute show in a 3 line
synopsis.
I have it ripped into an MP3 file and I will clip out the part I am
talking about later tonight. Maybe you should hear the deal they made
with Billy Touzin too (the Pharma lobbyist)
I can put the whole 56 minutes on my web site if you like. (burn you a
CD or whatever) It is pretty interesting.

I can probably get it... I think I found a link to view it directly. I'm
sure it's interesting! Sort of like making sausage.

This is about 16 minutes in Howard Dean talking about how the bill was
written. Karen Ignani is the lobbyist for the insurance companies.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Howard%20Dean.mp3

This is a link to the show on PBS

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../etc/cron.html

I'll look when I get a chance, but Dean wasn't part of Congress at that
point, so I'm not sure how he could know the actual details, except second
hand.

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On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 10:20:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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I'll look when I get a chance, but Dean wasn't part of Congress at that
point, so I'm not sure how he could know the actual details, except second
hand.

The chair of the DNC is an outsider?


He was in the meeting that supposedly took place in Reid's office? Citation
please!

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On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 13:01:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 10:20:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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I'll look when I get a chance, but Dean wasn't part of Congress at that
point, so I'm not sure how he could know the actual details, except
second
hand.

The chair of the DNC is an outsider?


He was in the meeting that supposedly took place in Reid's office?
Citation
please!


I am working on it. I do try to have a life beyond Rec.boats,
sometimes even on a boat

I also... going away for the weekend.

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On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 13:01:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2010 10:20:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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I'll look when I get a chance, but Dean wasn't part of Congress at that
point, so I'm not sure how he could know the actual details, except
second
hand.

The chair of the DNC is an outsider?


He was in the meeting that supposedly took place in Reid's office?
Citation
please!


I am working on it. I do try to have a life beyond Rec.boats,
sometimes even on a boat

I also... going away for the weekend.



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