On 7/30/10 7:28 AM, BAR wrote:
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:27:41 -0400, wrote:

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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:21:29 -0400, Harry
wrote:

(AP) - Ousted Agriculture Department employee Shirley Sherrod says she
will sue a conservative blogger who posted an edited video of her making
racially tinged remarks last week.

Sherrod made the announcement Thursday in San Diego at the National
Association of Black Journalists annual convention.

The edited video posted by Andrew Breitbart led Agriculture Secretary
Tom Vilsack to ask her to resign, a decision he reconsidered after
seeing the entire video of her March speech to a local NAACP group. In
the full speech, Sherrod spoke of racial reconciliation and lessons she
learned after initially hesitating to help a white farmer save his home.

- - -

Breitbart libeled Sherrod big time, and also did her great harm. He's
not going to be able to hide behind a freedom of the press claim. His
activities against Ms. Sherrod were *not* absent malice. Malice was
uppermost on his mind.

Gosh darnit you beat me to another one.

Let's dance in the streets in celebration and hope that others will
pile on this piece of **** Breitbart.

Posting a video for public consumption of a news worthy event? Sherrod
is going to be laughed out of court if the suit isn't summarily
dismissed.

As usual, you speak from your ass. She's not a public figure.

It doesn't matter, she was speaking in a public forum.


Speaking in a public forum doesn't make one a public figure, and even if
it did, Breitbart's deliberate presentation of a tape he knew was
deceiving indicates malice. He libeled her.

"Harry ?" wrote in message
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On 7/30/10 7:28 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:27:41 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:21:29 -0400, Harry
wrote:

(AP) - Ousted Agriculture Department employee Shirley Sherrod says
she
will sue a conservative blogger who posted an edited video of her
making
racially tinged remarks last week.

Sherrod made the announcement Thursday in San Diego at the National
Association of Black Journalists annual convention.

The edited video posted by Andrew Breitbart led Agriculture Secretary
Tom Vilsack to ask her to resign, a decision he reconsidered after
seeing the entire video of her March speech to a local NAACP group.
In
the full speech, Sherrod spoke of racial reconciliation and lessons
she
learned after initially hesitating to help a white farmer save his
home.

- - -

Breitbart libeled Sherrod big time, and also did her great harm. He's
not going to be able to hide behind a freedom of the press claim. His
activities against Ms. Sherrod were *not* absent malice. Malice was
uppermost on his mind.

Gosh darnit you beat me to another one.

Let's dance in the streets in celebration and hope that others will
pile on this piece of **** Breitbart.

Posting a video for public consumption of a news worthy event? Sherrod
is going to be laughed out of court if the suit isn't summarily
dismissed.

As usual, you speak from your ass. She's not a public figure.

It doesn't matter, she was speaking in a public forum.


Speaking in a public forum doesn't make one a public figure, and even if
it did, Breitbart's deliberate presentation of a tape he knew was
deceiving indicates malice. He libeled her.


You're speculating brother. I'd be going after the moronic assholes that
pressured her into resigning before hearing the facts.

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"Harry ?" wrote in message
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On 7/29/10 10:42 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:21:29 -0400, Harry
wrote:

(AP) - Ousted Agriculture Department employee Shirley Sherrod says she
will sue a conservative blogger who posted an edited video of her making
racially tinged remarks last week.

Sherrod made the announcement Thursday in San Diego at the National
Association of Black Journalists annual convention.

The edited video posted by Andrew Breitbart led Agriculture Secretary
Tom Vilsack to ask her to resign, a decision he reconsidered after
seeing the entire video of her March speech to a local NAACP group. In
the full speech, Sherrod spoke of racial reconciliation and lessons she
learned after initially hesitating to help a white farmer save his home.

- - -

Breitbart libeled Sherrod big time, and also did her great harm. He's
not going to be able to hide behind a freedom of the press claim. His
activities against Ms. Sherrod were *not* absent malice. Malice was
uppermost on his mind.

The open question would be whether she was a public figure. If so the
press has great latitude. I bet he wins, only because of the screwed
up legal system.

She wasn't a public figure and he libeled her, with malice.


Yawn. What about going after all the dumb knee jerkers, beginning with your
boy.

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Me

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:28:02 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:27:41 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:21:29 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

(AP) - Ousted Agriculture Department employee Shirley Sherrod says she
will sue a conservative blogger who posted an edited video of her making
racially tinged remarks last week.

Sherrod made the announcement Thursday in San Diego at the National
Association of Black Journalists annual convention.

The edited video posted by Andrew Breitbart led Agriculture Secretary
Tom Vilsack to ask her to resign, a decision he reconsidered after
seeing the entire video of her March speech to a local NAACP group. In
the full speech, Sherrod spoke of racial reconciliation and lessons she
learned after initially hesitating to help a white farmer save his home.

- - -

Breitbart libeled Sherrod big time, and also did her great harm. He's
not going to be able to hide behind a freedom of the press claim. His
activities against Ms. Sherrod were *not* absent malice. Malice was
uppermost on his mind.

Gosh darnit you beat me to another one.

Let's dance in the streets in celebration and hope that others will
pile on this piece of **** Breitbart.

Posting a video for public consumption of a news worthy event? Sherrod
is going to be laughed out of court if the suit isn't summarily
dismissed.

As usual, you speak from your ass. She's not a public figure.

It doesn't matter, she was speaking in a public forum.

15 years ago while working for a private charity concern.

Breitbart did a hit piece and will have a log shoved up his ass as a
result. Time for his comeuppance.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:40:50 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:03:52 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:27:29 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:18:07 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:21:29 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

(AP) - Ousted Agriculture Department employee Shirley Sherrod says she
will sue a conservative blogger who posted an edited video of her making
racially tinged remarks last week.

Sherrod made the announcement Thursday in San Diego at the National
Association of Black Journalists annual convention.

The edited video posted by Andrew Breitbart led Agriculture Secretary
Tom Vilsack to ask her to resign, a decision he reconsidered after
seeing the entire video of her March speech to a local NAACP group. In
the full speech, Sherrod spoke of racial reconciliation and lessons she
learned after initially hesitating to help a white farmer save his home.

- - -

Breitbart libeled Sherrod big time, and also did her great harm. He's
not going to be able to hide behind a freedom of the press claim. His
activities against Ms. Sherrod were *not* absent malice. Malice was
uppermost on his mind.

The open question would be whether she was a public figure. If so the
press has great latitude. I bet he wins, only because of the screwed
up legal system.

She's not really a public figure, at least in my estimation. She was a
fairly low-level bureaucrat, and she was deliberately targeted and lied
about.

She was making a speech in front of a national organization and it was
published. All BB did was edit it. He will take the standard tack, "I
am an entertainment show".

The footage was not taken from a period in which she held the job she
holds now, which is still not as a public figure making public policy.

At the time of the speech, she was working on a private effort to help
those losing their farms retain proper counsel.

Breitbart will have his hands full.

The question will be when did the libel and slander occur.

I bet he ends up making more money in this perverse world we live in.
Among the people who support him, he can't buy this kind of publicity.
In the end it would have been better to ignore him.
I have to say I had never heard of him before this. I bet that is true
of most folks out here in flyover land.

He was the one behind the Acord hit piece. Got the government to flip
to his whistle then too. He'll only be funded by the type of assholes
that funded the swiftboat escapades. Breathren scum.

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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:16:50 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"BAR" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:21:29 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

(AP) - Ousted Agriculture Department employee Shirley Sherrod says she
will sue a conservative blogger who posted an edited video of her
making
racially tinged remarks last week.

Sherrod made the announcement Thursday in San Diego at the National
Association of Black Journalists annual convention.

The edited video posted by Andrew Breitbart led Agriculture Secretary
Tom Vilsack to ask her to resign, a decision he reconsidered after
seeing the entire video of her March speech to a local NAACP group. In
the full speech, Sherrod spoke of racial reconciliation and lessons
she
learned after initially hesitating to help a white farmer save his
home.

- - -

Breitbart libeled Sherrod big time, and also did her great harm. He's
not going to be able to hide behind a freedom of the press claim. His
activities against Ms. Sherrod were *not* absent malice. Malice was
uppermost on his mind.

Gosh darnit you beat me to another one.

Let's dance in the streets in celebration and hope that others will
pile on this piece of **** Breitbart.

Posting a video for public consumption of a news worthy event? Sherrod
is going to be laughed out of court if the suit isn't summarily
dismissed.



What exactly was "news worthy" about a highly edited event that
deliberated
mis-stated what she was discussing? Sounds like a pretty good case to me.


It really gets back to whether she is a public figure.
If showing a highly edited video that makes someone look like a moron,
Bush and Clinton both have hundreds of cases.
Jon Stewart would be doing hard time.

Again with this equivalency thing? She's not comparable to former
presidents. She was a low-level EPA employee.

Claiming anything else is just a right-wing fantasy defense.

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On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:00:34 -0700, jps wrote:

It really gets back to whether she is a public figure.
If showing a highly edited video that makes someone look like a moron,
Bush and Clinton both have hundreds of cases.
Jon Stewart would be doing hard time.

They are not private citizens. She's not a public figure.

Your stand is disingenuous so why take it?

Breitbart has his comeuppance sitting on the horizon. Be glad.

I wouldn't mind seeing this weasel get smacked down but I am just not
sure it is going to happen.

Sherrod was not an "employee" she was a political appointee. That puts
her right up there with Karl Rove and Rahm Emmanual.
This will be tried in DC and they are supposed to know the difference
between Civil Service and patronage positions.

If creative editing was a crime all of the news outlets would go to
jail.

So, you're claiming she wasn't fired? Again equating Rove and Sherrod is a
false equivalency. Who heard about her before Breitbart when after her?
Nobody.

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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:18:07 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:21:29 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

(AP) - Ousted Agriculture Department employee Shirley Sherrod says she
will sue a conservative blogger who posted an edited video of her making
racially tinged remarks last week.

Sherrod made the announcement Thursday in San Diego at the National
Association of Black Journalists annual convention.

The edited video posted by Andrew Breitbart led Agriculture Secretary
Tom Vilsack to ask her to resign, a decision he reconsidered after
seeing the entire video of her March speech to a local NAACP group. In
the full speech, Sherrod spoke of racial reconciliation and lessons she
learned after initially hesitating to help a white farmer save his home.

- - -

Breitbart libeled Sherrod big time, and also did her great harm. He's
not going to be able to hide behind a freedom of the press claim. His
activities against Ms. Sherrod were *not* absent malice. Malice was
uppermost on his mind.

The open question would be whether she was a public figure. If so the
press has great latitude. I bet he wins, only because of the screwed
up legal system.

She's not really a public figure, at least in my estimation. She was a
fairly low-level bureaucrat, and she was deliberately targeted and lied
about.

She was making a speech in front of a national organization and it was
published. All BB did was edit it. He will take the standard tack, "I
am an entertainment show".

I love it... "all he did was edit it." No, actually, he didn't edit it. He
just accepted it already edited, knew it was bs, and published it anyway.

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On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:53:25 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:18:07 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:21:29 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

(AP) - Ousted Agriculture Department employee Shirley Sherrod says she
will sue a conservative blogger who posted an edited video of her
making
racially tinged remarks last week.

Sherrod made the announcement Thursday in San Diego at the National
Association of Black Journalists annual convention.

The edited video posted by Andrew Breitbart led Agriculture Secretary
Tom Vilsack to ask her to resign, a decision he reconsidered after
seeing the entire video of her March speech to a local NAACP group. In
the full speech, Sherrod spoke of racial reconciliation and lessons
she
learned after initially hesitating to help a white farmer save his
home.

- - -

Breitbart libeled Sherrod big time, and also did her great harm. He's
not going to be able to hide behind a freedom of the press claim. His
activities against Ms. Sherrod were *not* absent malice. Malice was
uppermost on his mind.

The open question would be whether she was a public figure. If so the
press has great latitude. I bet he wins, only because of the screwed
up legal system.

She's not really a public figure, at least in my estimation. She was a
fairly low-level bureaucrat, and she was deliberately targeted and lied
about.

She was making a speech in front of a national organization and it was
published. All BB did was edit it. He will take the standard tack, "I
am an entertainment show".

I love it... "all he did was edit it." No, actually, he didn't edit it. He
just accepted it already edited, knew it was bs, and published it anyway.

Michael Moore made a career of selectively editing tape. I say again,
it will be the media that steps up to defend Breitbart.
As for Breitbart himself, you can't buy this kind of publicity. In his
target audience, his marketability has shot up. The more we talk about
it the better it goes for him. I bet the hits on his blog are up 400%
and somebody might actually buy a Washington Times.

Right, except he didn't defame someone calling them a racist when the
opposite was the case. So, the equivalency is false.

Posting a video for public consumption of a news worthy event? Sherrod
is going to be laughed out of court if the suit isn't summarily
dismissed.

This will be interesting. You must admit that cases reach trial, and awards
are given on things that would have been dismissed with prejudiced plus
plain being laughed out of court twenty years ago. Such is modern
lawyering.

Steve

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