On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:53:40 -0400, wrote:




I am saying the same thing you just said. Taxes are going to go up. It
would behoove people to lock in their gains at the lower rate but if
many people try to do it, the gains will go away. That is the classic
game of chicken. I just think the cliff is in December so the question
is only, "when do you jump out of the car"?

in the last 30 years the richest 1% have had a 500% REAL increase in
income.

any reason they SHOULDNT pay more taxes?

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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:18:00 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:53:40 -0400, wrote:




I am saying the same thing you just said. Taxes are going to go up. It
would behoove people to lock in their gains at the lower rate but if
many people try to do it, the gains will go away. That is the classic
game of chicken. I just think the cliff is in December so the question
is only, "when do you jump out of the car"?

in the last 30 years the richest 1% have had a 500% REAL increase in
income.

any reason they SHOULDNT pay more taxes?

I think they should but as long as they are pumping close to a billion
into an election cycle, the whores in DC are not going to do it.

I only have to point to the health care bill. After lots of promises
to help the little guy, the Senate let a couple of UHC lobbyists write
a bill that simply handed 20-30 million new customers into the
existing system ... at the point of a government gun.

UHC lobbyists didn't write the bill. They had too much input, but it's a
right-wing conspiracy that they wrote it.

Is the bill perfect? No. Can it be improved? Yes. Will it be improved? Yes.

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:38:40 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:38:35 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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I only have to point to the health care bill. After lots of promises
to help the little guy, the Senate let a couple of UHC lobbyists write
a bill that simply handed 20-30 million new customers into the
existing system ... at the point of a government gun.

UHC lobbyists didn't write the bill. They had too much input, but it's a
right-wing conspiracy that they wrote it.

Cite that. I cited the allegation, you have not proved it was wrong.

here's a chart of industries that lobbied on the bill

http://www.publicintegrity.org/articles/entry/1953/

insurance companies were 4th on the list

strange. i find no reference at all to your claim

OTOH we do know that wall street CEO's routinely meet with GOP
lawmakers...behind closed doors...

then these guys oppose obama's regulation of wall street.

what a coincidence!!

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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:38:35 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I only have to point to the health care bill. After lots of promises
to help the little guy, the Senate let a couple of UHC lobbyists write
a bill that simply handed 20-30 million new customers into the
existing system ... at the point of a government gun.

UHC lobbyists didn't write the bill. They had too much input, but it's a
right-wing conspiracy that they wrote it.

Cite that. I cited the allegation, you have not proved it was wrong.

It's pretty hard to prove a negative. Prove they wrote it. I doubt you can.
You can cite some examples of influencing the writing, but the claim that
they wrote it is false.

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:23:50 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:18:00 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:53:40 -0400, wrote:




I am saying the same thing you just said. Taxes are going to go up. It
would behoove people to lock in their gains at the lower rate but if
many people try to do it, the gains will go away. That is the classic
game of chicken. I just think the cliff is in December so the question
is only, "when do you jump out of the car"?

in the last 30 years the richest 1% have had a 500% REAL increase in
income.

any reason they SHOULDNT pay more taxes?

I think they should but as long as they are pumping close to a billion
into an election cycle, the whores in DC are not going to do it.

dunno...the dems are pushing to keep the middle class tax cuts and
increase them on the rich. but the right isnt' buying it


I only have to point to the health care bill. After lots of promises
to help the little guy, the Senate let a couple of UHC lobbyists write
a bill that simply handed 20-30 million new customers into the
existing system ... at the point of a government gun.

yep. the price of closing off a right wing filibuster