"Larry" wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:30:16 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

it's greed. there's a reason the financial sector accounted for 40% of
GDP in 2007 while the US did NOT become more competitive in world
markets. the financial sector added NOTHING to US assets

Where do you think the money for your retirement will be coming from?

The whole basis for everyone's pension, 401k and IRA is that Wall
Street sector you seem to hate. Retirees are by definition not adding
anything to the economy, they are living off of it.

Well, that's not really true. They're spending their money in many ways
that contribute. If they just hoarded their money, the economy would be
much worse off.

The same is true of everyone on Social Security. You better hope Wall
Street stays 40% of the economy if you want your 401k to be worth
anything when you start sucking off the public tit.

Unfortunately, 401Ks and IRAs (except Roths) aren't really great for
retirement instruments. People forget about the tax consequences of
withdrawing money. Tax rates are at historic lows. They will rise, and
one needs to factor that in when planning for retirement.



Well put. That's why I've been slowly removing money from my
traditional IRA for the past ten years to minimize the tax implications
as much as I can.
Yup. Obama's off-the-chart spending will certainly increase taxes. He
can't keep printing money forever.

You're truly stupid. The fact is that Bush lowered taxes for no damn good
reason, and they were already at historic lows. This isn't sustainable. Even
a moron like you should know that. Keep blaming Obama for all your troubles,
but they're definitely self-made.

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On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:08:03 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Yup. Obama's off-the-chart spending will certainly increase taxes. He
can't keep printing money forever.

You're truly stupid. The fact is that Bush lowered taxes for no damn good
reason, and they were already at historic lows. This isn't sustainable.
Even
a moron like you should know that. Keep blaming Obama for all your
troubles,
but they're definitely self-made.

Bush lowered taxes because that was what they thought you did to
stimulate the economy. The Dow did go over 11,000 and a lot of people
thought they were rich enough to buy a couple of McMansions, so it may
have done something.
As we are now demonstrating, it was an across the board tax cut that
you agree helps the bottom.

Bush lowered taxes because he wanted to enrich his friends. The DOW reached
11K in 2000 or so. Bush had NOTHING to do with it. That would be Clinton.
Facts are facts my friend. You don't just get to pull them out of thin air.

The across the board tax cut did some good for the regular people, but it
did far more for the rich.

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says...

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:08:03 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Yup. Obama's off-the-chart spending will certainly increase taxes. He
can't keep printing money forever.

You're truly stupid. The fact is that Bush lowered taxes for no damn good
reason, and they were already at historic lows. This isn't sustainable. Even
a moron like you should know that. Keep blaming Obama for all your troubles,
but they're definitely self-made.

Bush lowered taxes because that was what they thought you did to
stimulate the economy. The Dow did go over 11,000 and a lot of people
thought they were rich enough to buy a couple of McMansions, so it may
have done something.
As we are now demonstrating, it was an across the board tax cut that
you agree helps the bottom.

Do you disagree that every tax hike is "across the board"? Really, if a
"rich guy" is making a million dollars a year and paying a quarter
million in taxes, next year he has to pay half a million in taxes, do
you doubt that he will find a way to increase his bottom line (coming
directly out of everyones pocket) to make up for it? When the price of
Widgets goes up, who pays the difference, only the rich? No, it's you
and me, and proportionally, we pay more than the so called "rich"...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

On 7/23/10 8:16 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:08:03 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Yup. Obama's off-the-chart spending will certainly increase taxes. He
can't keep printing money forever.

You're truly stupid. The fact is that Bush lowered taxes for no damn good
reason, and they were already at historic lows. This isn't sustainable. Even
a moron like you should know that. Keep blaming Obama for all your troubles,
but they're definitely self-made.

Bush lowered taxes because that was what they thought you did to
stimulate the economy. The Dow did go over 11,000 and a lot of people
thought they were rich enough to buy a couple of McMansions, so it may
have done something.
As we are now demonstrating, it was an across the board tax cut that
you agree helps the bottom.

Do you disagree that every tax hike is "across the board"? Really, if a
"rich guy" is making a million dollars a year and paying a quarter
million in taxes, next year he has to pay half a million in taxes, do
you doubt that he will find a way to increase his bottom line (coming
directly out of everyones pocket) to make up for it? When the price of
Widgets goes up, who pays the difference, only the rich? No, it's you
and me, and proportionally, we pay more than the so called "rich"...


You have no job and no income. You pay nothing in federal income tax.

"Harry ?" wrote in message
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On 7/23/10 8:16 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:08:03 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Yup. Obama's off-the-chart spending will certainly increase taxes. He
can't keep printing money forever.

You're truly stupid. The fact is that Bush lowered taxes for no damn
good
reason, and they were already at historic lows. This isn't sustainable.
Even
a moron like you should know that. Keep blaming Obama for all your
troubles,
but they're definitely self-made.

Bush lowered taxes because that was what they thought you did to
stimulate the economy. The Dow did go over 11,000 and a lot of people
thought they were rich enough to buy a couple of McMansions, so it may
have done something.
As we are now demonstrating, it was an across the board tax cut that
you agree helps the bottom.

Do you disagree that every tax hike is "across the board"? Really, if a
"rich guy" is making a million dollars a year and paying a quarter
million in taxes, next year he has to pay half a million in taxes, do
you doubt that he will find a way to increase his bottom line (coming
directly out of everyones pocket) to make up for it? When the price of
Widgets goes up, who pays the difference, only the rich? No, it's you
and me, and proportionally, we pay more than the so called "rich"...


You have no job and no income. You pay nothing in federal income tax.

You appear to be a stalker Krowsie.

--
Harold

In article ,
says...

"Harry ?" wrote in message
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On 7/23/10 8:16 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:08:03 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Yup. Obama's off-the-chart spending will certainly increase taxes. He
can't keep printing money forever.

You're truly stupid. The fact is that Bush lowered taxes for no damn
good
reason, and they were already at historic lows. This isn't sustainable.
Even
a moron like you should know that. Keep blaming Obama for all your
troubles,
but they're definitely self-made.

Bush lowered taxes because that was what they thought you did to
stimulate the economy. The Dow did go over 11,000 and a lot of people
thought they were rich enough to buy a couple of McMansions, so it may
have done something.
As we are now demonstrating, it was an across the board tax cut that
you agree helps the bottom.

Do you disagree that every tax hike is "across the board"? Really, if a
"rich guy" is making a million dollars a year and paying a quarter
million in taxes, next year he has to pay half a million in taxes, do
you doubt that he will find a way to increase his bottom line (coming
directly out of everyones pocket) to make up for it? When the price of
Widgets goes up, who pays the difference, only the rich? No, it's you
and me, and proportionally, we pay more than the so called "rich"...


You have no job and no income. You pay nothing in federal income tax.

You appear to be a stalker Krowsie.

I make and pay more than our resident pedophile, Harry. I have offered
several times to match tax returns to prove it, but he won't. Can you
guess why???

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...

"Harry ?" wrote in message
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On 7/23/10 8:16 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:08:03 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Yup. Obama's off-the-chart spending will certainly increase taxes.
He
can't keep printing money forever.

You're truly stupid. The fact is that Bush lowered taxes for no damn
good
reason, and they were already at historic lows. This isn't
sustainable.
Even
a moron like you should know that. Keep blaming Obama for all your
troubles,
but they're definitely self-made.

Bush lowered taxes because that was what they thought you did to
stimulate the economy. The Dow did go over 11,000 and a lot of people
thought they were rich enough to buy a couple of McMansions, so it
may
have done something.
As we are now demonstrating, it was an across the board tax cut that
you agree helps the bottom.

Do you disagree that every tax hike is "across the board"? Really, if
a
"rich guy" is making a million dollars a year and paying a quarter
million in taxes, next year he has to pay half a million in taxes, do
you doubt that he will find a way to increase his bottom line (coming
directly out of everyones pocket) to make up for it? When the price of
Widgets goes up, who pays the difference, only the rich? No, it's you
and me, and proportionally, we pay more than the so called "rich"...


You have no job and no income. You pay nothing in federal income tax.

You appear to be a stalker Krowsie.

I make and pay more than our resident pedophile, Harry. I have offered
several times to match tax returns to prove it, but he won't. Can you
guess why???

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Is he one of those dumbocrats that forgets to file year after year?

--
Harold

I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

"Harry wrote in message
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On 7/23/10 8:16 AM, I am Tosk wrote:

In ,
says...

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:08:03 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Yup. Obama's off-the-chart spending will certainly increase taxes. He
can't keep printing money forever.

You're truly stupid. The fact is that Bush lowered taxes for no damn
good
reason, and they were already at historic lows. This isn't sustainable.
Even
a moron like you should know that. Keep blaming Obama for all your
troubles,
but they're definitely self-made.


Bush lowered taxes because that was what they thought you did to
stimulate the economy. The Dow did go over 11,000 and a lot of people
thought they were rich enough to buy a couple of McMansions, so it may
have done something.
As we are now demonstrating, it was an across the board tax cut that
you agree helps the bottom.

Do you disagree that every tax hike is "across the board"? Really, if a
"rich guy" is making a million dollars a year and paying a quarter
million in taxes, next year he has to pay half a million in taxes, do
you doubt that he will find a way to increase his bottom line (coming
directly out of everyones pocket) to make up for it? When the price of
Widgets goes up, who pays the difference, only the rich? No, it's you
and me, and proportionally, we pay more than the so called "rich"...


You have no job and no income. You pay nothing in federal income tax.

You appear to be a stalker Krowsie.

I make and pay more than our resident pedophile, Harry. I have offered
several times to match tax returns to prove it, but he won't. Can you
guess why???


Another lie? Do I win?