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Harold[_3_] July 8th 10 04:48 PM

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:02:46 -0400, W1TEF
wrote:

It's six gauge solid with UV shielding. You'd have to see the
installation to understand why I went with that type of wire -
stranded wouldn't have worked as well.


Solid wire is generally considered to be inappropriate on boats or any
other application subject to vibration for the reason that even small
amounts of vibration will eventually cause the solid copper to work
harden and crack. Tinned wire with fine strands, commonly available
in West Marine, is the right stuff. UV protection requires some of
that corrugated plastic tubing with the split side.

I'm with you on that brother.



Harold[_3_] July 8th 10 04:51 PM

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"W1TEF" wrote in message
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:38:21 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

See. That wasn't so bad. It wasn't really your fault. A valuable lesson
was
learned. Be very suspicious when AC wiring is used on a DC circuit.
Hopefully the wiring is the soft stranded type, not solid, and at least
8ga. with UV shielding.


It's six gauge solid with UV shielding. You'd have to see the
installation to understand why I went with that type of wire -
stranded wouldn't have worked as well.


Y S K B



Harold[_3_] July 8th 10 04:58 PM

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"W1TEF" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:59:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:15:05 -0400, W1TEF
wrote:

I will take the blame for that - I should have used red/black shrink
wrap to designate hot and ground. I just assumed that black is ground
in most wiring schemes meaning that white would be hot - 12 Vdc what
else could it be? :)


The color codes are different for AC and DC wiring. To make matters
worse, Europeans seem to be using Red for (+) and Yellow for (-).


I know. The only thing available to me in that gauge was what I used
- and it was a twelve foot run from where the battery placed in the
bow to the fuse panel. The only way to run the cable from the battery
to the fuse panel was under the ribs along the floor through a drain
channel. Round stranded cable of that gauge wouldn't fit right, but
the flat was a perfect fit.

Go with what works. :)


Y S H K B That's all I will say about that.



Harold[_3_] July 8th 10 05:01 PM

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"Harry ?" wrote in message
m...
On 7/8/10 10:47 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.


Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she was
already a lap down...;)



"...that big four stroke to blow up..."

That big four stroke engine has about 1/4th the displacement of my little
riding mower.


A real man would use a reel push mower on a lawn the size of yours. Unless
you have emphysema or two prosthetic legs of course.



Harold[_3_] July 8th 10 05:05 PM

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"Harry ?" wrote in message
m...


Why? Are you planning to stalk me? You've already slandered me, many
times. So have all the other righties. Do you suppose that gives them a
"pass"?



It's called tit for tat.
I think passes are in order.



Harold[_3_] July 8th 10 05:31 PM

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"W1TEF" wrote in message
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 11:58:31 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

Y S H K B That's all I will say about that.


What is Y S H K B?

Seriously - speak English. :)


I'll tell you on another venue. That is if I'm still allowed in.



YukonBound July 8th 10 05:32 PM

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 


"W1TEF" wrote in message
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:30:56 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:



"W1TEF" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:14:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

It was my fault I guess. I used a different wiring scheme than Don
was used to.

I suppose I should have given him a wiring diagram for the fuse block
too. OH well. :)


Don't worry about that...I find it too hard to reach or see... what with
my
'progressive lens' glasses. ;-)


That was another issue - I placed that fuse panel to be out of the way
and out of the weather. Never even thought about trying to change a
fuse easily.

Then again, it's pretty accessible from outside the boat - which would
be terribly inconvenient in the middle of the lake now that I think
about it. :)


Just got back in from outside...temp up in the 80's F again today. Not used
to that in the sun.
Only red tape I had here is the TUCK type used to seal plastic vapor barrier
on your outer walls.
I wrapped a small 1.5" wide strip around the white wire and used a permanent
red marker to draw a couple '+' signs.
If I miss that next year, I'm in trouble. ;-)


YukonBound July 8th 10 05:35 PM

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 


"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:59:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:15:05 -0400, W1TEF
wrote:

I will take the blame for that - I should have used red/black shrink
wrap to designate hot and ground. I just assumed that black is ground
in most wiring schemes meaning that white would be hot - 12 Vdc what
else could it be? :)


The color codes are different for AC and DC wiring. To make matters
worse, Europeans seem to be using Red for (+) and Yellow for (-).


I know. The only thing available to me in that gauge was what I used
- and it was a twelve foot run from where the battery placed in the
bow to the fuse panel. The only way to run the cable from the battery
to the fuse panel was under the ribs along the floor through a drain
channel. Round stranded cable of that gauge wouldn't fit right, but
the flat was a perfect fit.

Go with what works. :)


Yup...fits like a glove. I don't have to worry about walking on it... it's
as if the drain channel was made for that size wire.


Harry  July 8th 10 06:01 PM

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 
On 7/8/10 12:01 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
m...
On 7/8/10 10:47 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she was
already a lap down...;)



"...that big four stroke to blow up..."

That big four stroke engine has about 1/4th the displacement of my little
riding mower.


A real man would use a reel push mower on a lawn the size of yours. Unless
you have emphysema or two prosthetic legs of course.



You're more than welcome to come by with your reel push mower and give
it a try on a nice hot summer day. I'll stay on the line with the rescue
squad.

Harold[_3_] July 8th 10 06:04 PM

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"Harry ?" wrote in message
m...
On 7/8/10 12:01 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
m...
On 7/8/10 10:47 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on
at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she
was
already a lap down...;)



"...that big four stroke to blow up..."

That big four stroke engine has about 1/4th the displacement of my
little
riding mower.


A real man would use a reel push mower on a lawn the size of yours.
Unless
you have emphysema or two prosthetic legs of course.



You're more than welcome to come by with your reel push mower and give it
a try on a nice hot summer day. I'll stay on the line with the rescue
squad.


Looks like you have 1/3 acre or less grass. Unless you cleared some more
trees away.




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