Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem and all
works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was made, the
starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

On 7/8/10 8:59 AM, YukonBound wrote:
Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem and
all works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was made,
the starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.


A resurrection, as it were!

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

YukonBound wrote:
Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem and
all works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was made,
the starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.

Very rude to ask for help, then not give the solution.
Others who encounter the same problem are denied the answer.
Even if the answer is something really, really stupid.
We all make mistakes.

Jim - Sermon for Thursday.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

In article ,
says...

On 7/8/10 8:59 AM, YukonBound wrote:
Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem and
all works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was made,
the starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.


A resurrection, as it were!

You spoofer. I am so proud of my little buddy.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...
YukonBound wrote:
Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem and
all works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was made,
the starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.

Very rude to ask for help, then not give the solution.
Others who encounter the same problem are denied the answer.
Even if the answer is something really, really stupid.
We all make mistakes.

Jim - Sermon for Thursday.

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

On 7/8/10 9:29 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Jim" wrote in message
...
YukonBound wrote:
Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem
and all works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was
made, the starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.

Very rude to ask for help, then not give the solution.
Others who encounter the same problem are denied the answer.
Even if the answer is something really, really stupid.
We all make mistakes.

Jim - Sermon for Thursday.

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.


Indeed. Just leave the assholes hanging by their...

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"YukonBound" wrote in message
...
Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem and
all works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was made,
the starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.
I can assure you the details aren't boring. There are many here that could
benefit from your experience. You can't just beg for help and not post a
follow-up. It's just not right.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:59:27 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem and
all
works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was made,
the
starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.

So what was it?
We're trying to pry the fix out of him but he aint talking. What does that
tell you?

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:59:27 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem and
all
works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was made,
the
starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.

So what was it?

Ok.. since you asked...
This solution was in the back of my mind from the start, but I didn't want
to try anything for fear of causing problems.
I was able to turn the bendix toothed gear by hand and one way it would
raise up on a helix to the flywheel so I felt nothing was seized there.
When I pressed the starter I noticed that the bexdix was spinning
clockwise... same way as the flywheel did when I pulled on the cord.
This didn't seem right so I took a closer look at how the Minn Kota prop
spun when I put in in forward & reverse.
You guessed it...the opposite way from what you would expect.
I had assumed that the cables leading to the battery posts were like your
normal 14-2 household wiring.
That is..... black hot & white neutral. It was the opposite.... the white
wire belonged on the + post and black on the - post.
I couldn't remember how it was connected when I re-installed the battery
....and with a 50% chance of getting it right...i didn't.
I'll mark or apply red tape to that white wire so I don't make that mistake
again.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

On 7/8/10 10:14 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.


You're ever the asshole, eh, w'hine?

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

In article ,
says...

"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:59:27 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem and
all
works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was made,
the
starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.

So what was it?

Ok.. since you asked...
This solution was in the back of my mind from the start, but I didn't want
to try anything for fear of causing problems.
I was able to turn the bendix toothed gear by hand and one way it would
raise up on a helix to the flywheel so I felt nothing was seized there.
When I pressed the starter I noticed that the bexdix was spinning
clockwise... same way as the flywheel did when I pulled on the cord.
This didn't seem right so I took a closer look at how the Minn Kota prop
spun when I put in in forward & reverse.
You guessed it...the opposite way from what you would expect.
I had assumed that the cables leading to the battery posts were like your
normal 14-2 household wiring.
That is..... black hot & white neutral. It was the opposite.... the white
wire belonged on the + post and black on the - post.
I couldn't remember how it was connected when I re-installed the battery
...and with a 50% chance of getting it right...i didn't.
I'll mark or apply red tape to that white wire so I don't make that mistake
again.



Sorry little buddy. Just like me, you shouldn't be working on your own
things. You haven't a clue.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

In article , says...

YukonBound wrote:
Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem and
all works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was made,
the starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.

Very rude to ask for help, then not give the solution.
Others who encounter the same problem are denied the answer.
Even if the answer is something really, really stupid.
We all make mistakes.

Jim - Sermon for Thursday.

Probably found a wire unhooked... Dumb ****.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"YukonBound" wrote in message
...


"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:59:27 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem and
all
works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was made,
the
starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.

So what was it?

Ok.. since you asked...
This solution was in the back of my mind from the start, but I didn't want
to try anything for fear of causing problems.
I was able to turn the bendix toothed gear by hand and one way it would
raise up on a helix to the flywheel so I felt nothing was seized there.
When I pressed the starter I noticed that the bexdix was spinning
clockwise... same way as the flywheel did when I pulled on the cord.
This didn't seem right so I took a closer look at how the Minn Kota prop
spun when I put in in forward & reverse.
You guessed it...the opposite way from what you would expect.
I had assumed that the cables leading to the battery posts were like your
normal 14-2 household wiring.
That is..... black hot & white neutral. It was the opposite.... the white
wire belonged on the + post and black on the - post.
I couldn't remember how it was connected when I re-installed the battery
...and with a 50% chance of getting it right...i didn't.
I'll mark or apply red tape to that white wire so I don't make that
mistake again.



See. That wasn't so bad. It wasn't really your fault. A valuable lesson was
learned. Be very suspicious when AC wiring is used on a DC circuit.
Hopefully the wiring is the soft stranded type, not solid, and at least
8ga. with UV shielding.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she was
already a lap down...;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she was
already a lap down...;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Pretty good find for her. She must know something about the mechanics of the
bike.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

In article ,
says...

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she was
already a lap down...;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Pretty good find for her. She must know something about the mechanics of the
bike.

Thanks, yeah she is pretty good. She knows I may not always be there...
She can set up the suspension, and after the bike is warmed up she
brapps it a few times and reaches down and adjusts the mixture based on
temp, baro, and humidity to a baseline and works from there. Knows how
to use a torque wrench and service manual, etc... Yep, I am pretty proud
of her;) But then again maybe I should keep her home to do "practice
tests". ;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - The big Bettencourts Suzuki won the drags this
weekend, hands down, go Mouse!

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:15:05 -0400, W1TEF
wrote:

I will take the blame for that - I should have used red/black shrink
wrap to designate hot and ground. I just assumed that black is ground
in most wiring schemes meaning that white would be hot - 12 Vdc what
else could it be? :)

The color codes are different for AC and DC wiring. To make matters
worse, Europeans seem to be using Red for (+) and Yellow for (-).

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

On 7/8/10 10:47 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she was
already a lap down...;)



"...that big four stroke to blow up..."

That big four stroke engine has about 1/4th the displacement of my
little riding mower.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

On 7/8/10 10:50 AM, Harold wrote:
"I am wrote in message
...
In ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she was
already a lap down...;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Pretty good find for her. She must know something about the mechanics of the
bike.




Or mowed someone's lawn.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:32:15 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

On 7/8/10 10:14 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.


You're ever the asshole, eh, w'hine?

I rest my case.

PS, you should closely study the case law relating to stalking,
slander and defamation.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"Harry " wrote in message
m...
On 7/8/10 10:50 AM, Harold wrote:
"I am wrote in message
...
In ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she was
already a lap down...;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Pretty good find for her. She must know something about the mechanics of
the
bike.




Or mowed someone's lawn.

Someone has to. The Freak admitted he doesn't.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:14:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

It was my fault I guess. I used a different wiring scheme than Don
was used to.

I suppose I should have given him a wiring diagram for the fuse block
too. OH well. :)


Don't worry about that...I find it too hard to reach or see... what with my
'progressive lens' glasses. ;-)

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On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:02:46 -0400, W1TEF
wrote:

It's six gauge solid with UV shielding. You'd have to see the
installation to understand why I went with that type of wire -
stranded wouldn't have worked as well.

Solid wire is generally considered to be inappropriate on boats or any
other application subject to vibration for the reason that even small
amounts of vibration will eventually cause the solid copper to work
harden and crack. Tinned wire with fine strands, commonly available
in West Marine, is the right stuff. UV protection requires some of
that corrugated plastic tubing with the split side.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

On 7/8/10 11:02 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:32:15 -0400, Harry
wrote:

On 7/8/10 10:14 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.


You're ever the asshole, eh, w'hine?

I rest my case.

PS, you should closely study the case law relating to stalking,
slander and defamation.


Why? Are you planning to stalk me? You've already slandered me, many
times. So have all the other righties. Do you suppose that gives them a
"pass"?

You should direct your attention to the two hotheads here...loogy and
little tosk. Both threaten to visit those they don't like and "teach
them" a lesson.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

In article ,
says...

"Harry ?" wrote in message
m...
On 7/8/10 10:50 AM, Harold wrote:
"I am wrote in message
...
In ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she was
already a lap down...;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Pretty good find for her. She must know something about the mechanics of
the
bike.




Or mowed someone's lawn.

Someone has to. The Freak admitted he doesn't.

I wish I had one of those girly electric mowers.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 11:10:28 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:



"W1TEF" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:59:27 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem and
all
works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was made,
the
starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.

So what was it?

Ok.. since you asked...
This solution was in the back of my mind from the start, but I didn't want
to try anything for fear of causing problems.
I was able to turn the bendix toothed gear by hand and one way it would
raise up on a helix to the flywheel so I felt nothing was seized there.
When I pressed the starter I noticed that the bexdix was spinning
clockwise... same way as the flywheel did when I pulled on the cord.
This didn't seem right so I took a closer look at how the Minn Kota prop
spun when I put in in forward & reverse.
You guessed it...the opposite way from what you would expect.
I had assumed that the cables leading to the battery posts were like your
normal 14-2 household wiring.
That is..... black hot & white neutral. It was the opposite.... the white
wire belonged on the + post and black on the - post.
I couldn't remember how it was connected when I re-installed the battery
...and with a 50% chance of getting it right...i didn't.
I'll mark or apply red tape to that white wire so I don't make that
mistake
again.



I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you probably blew the
rectifier and you may have damaged the charging winding of your
stator. If you have a meter, see if you have 14-15v on the battery
when you are at speed.

What was there as part of the charging system was removed two years ago.
A couple screws vibrated loose and spun around damaging components. i
wasn't using the charger... so didn't want to replace the damaged parts.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

In article ,
says...

On 7/8/10 10:47 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she was
already a lap down...;)



"...that big four stroke to blow up..."

That big four stroke engine has about 1/4th the displacement of my
little riding mower.

Spoofer alert! I took mechanical engineering courses and that sentence
was just about as stupid as I've ever heard. For many reasons.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 11:10:28 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:



"W1TEF" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:59:27 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Thanks to some dogged investigating, I've solved my starter problem and
all
works well.
I won't bore you with the details........ but after 'the fix' was made,
the
starter jumped up and threw that flywheel around like a champ.

So what was it?

Ok.. since you asked...
This solution was in the back of my mind from the start, but I didn't want
to try anything for fear of causing problems.
I was able to turn the bendix toothed gear by hand and one way it would
raise up on a helix to the flywheel so I felt nothing was seized there.
When I pressed the starter I noticed that the bexdix was spinning
clockwise... same way as the flywheel did when I pulled on the cord.
This didn't seem right so I took a closer look at how the Minn Kota prop
spun when I put in in forward & reverse.
You guessed it...the opposite way from what you would expect.
I had assumed that the cables leading to the battery posts were like your
normal 14-2 household wiring.
That is..... black hot & white neutral. It was the opposite.... the white
wire belonged on the + post and black on the - post.
I couldn't remember how it was connected when I re-installed the battery
...and with a 50% chance of getting it right...i didn't.
I'll mark or apply red tape to that white wire so I don't make that
mistake
again.

I never thought of that.

I will take the blame for that - I should have used red/black shrink
wrap to designate hot and ground. I just assumed that black is ground
in most wiring schemes meaning that white would be hot - 12 Vdc what
else could it be? :)

Glad you got it straight. Hey, things happen right?

I should have marked it red when I first removed the battery in late 2007.
Probably waited until it was freezing to move the battery inside and got
lazy.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

On 7/8/10 11:28 AM, YukonBound wrote:


"Harry " wrote in message
m...
On 7/8/10 10:50 AM, Harold wrote:
"I am wrote in message
...
In ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke
on at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she
was
already a lap down...;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Pretty good find for her. She must know something about the mechanics
of the
bike.




Or mowed someone's lawn.

Someone has to. The Freak admitted he doesn't.


I forgot...the long grass covers up the trash he dumps in his yard. Some
neighbor.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:02:46 -0400, W1TEF
wrote:

It's six gauge solid with UV shielding. You'd have to see the
installation to understand why I went with that type of wire -
stranded wouldn't have worked as well.

Solid wire is generally considered to be inappropriate on boats or any
other application subject to vibration for the reason that even small
amounts of vibration will eventually cause the solid copper to work
harden and crack. Tinned wire with fine strands, commonly available
in West Marine, is the right stuff. UV protection requires some of
that corrugated plastic tubing with the split side.

I'm with you on that brother.

Thanks to all... starter problem solved
 

"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:38:21 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

See. That wasn't so bad. It wasn't really your fault. A valuable lesson
was
learned. Be very suspicious when AC wiring is used on a DC circuit.
Hopefully the wiring is the soft stranded type, not solid, and at least
8ga. with UV shielding.

It's six gauge solid with UV shielding. You'd have to see the
installation to understand why I went with that type of wire -
stranded wouldn't have worked as well.

Y S K B

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"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:59:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:15:05 -0400, W1TEF
wrote:

I will take the blame for that - I should have used red/black shrink
wrap to designate hot and ground. I just assumed that black is ground
in most wiring schemes meaning that white would be hot - 12 Vdc what
else could it be? :)

The color codes are different for AC and DC wiring. To make matters
worse, Europeans seem to be using Red for (+) and Yellow for (-).

I know. The only thing available to me in that gauge was what I used
- and it was a twelve foot run from where the battery placed in the
bow to the fuse panel. The only way to run the cable from the battery
to the fuse panel was under the ribs along the floor through a drain
channel. Round stranded cable of that gauge wouldn't fit right, but
the flat was a perfect fit.

Go with what works. :)

Y S H K B That's all I will say about that.

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"Harry ?" wrote in message
m...
On 7/8/10 10:47 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she was
already a lap down...;)



"...that big four stroke to blow up..."

That big four stroke engine has about 1/4th the displacement of my little
riding mower.


A real man would use a reel push mower on a lawn the size of yours. Unless
you have emphysema or two prosthetic legs of course.

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"Harry ?" wrote in message
m...


Why? Are you planning to stalk me? You've already slandered me, many
times. So have all the other righties. Do you suppose that gives them a
"pass"?


It's called tit for tat.
I think passes are in order.

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"W1TEF" wrote in message
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 11:58:31 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

Y S H K B That's all I will say about that.

What is Y S H K B?

Seriously - speak English. :)

I'll tell you on another venue. That is if I'm still allowed in.

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"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 12:30:56 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:



"W1TEF" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:14:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

It was my fault I guess. I used a different wiring scheme than Don
was used to.

I suppose I should have given him a wiring diagram for the fuse block
too. OH well. :)


Don't worry about that...I find it too hard to reach or see... what with
my
'progressive lens' glasses. ;-)

That was another issue - I placed that fuse panel to be out of the way
and out of the weather. Never even thought about trying to change a
fuse easily.

Then again, it's pretty accessible from outside the boat - which would
be terribly inconvenient in the middle of the lake now that I think
about it. :)


Just got back in from outside...temp up in the 80's F again today. Not used
to that in the sun.
Only red tape I had here is the TUCK type used to seal plastic vapor barrier
on your outer walls.
I wrapped a small 1.5" wide strip around the white wire and used a permanent
red marker to draw a couple '+' signs.
If I miss that next year, I'm in trouble. ;-)

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"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:59:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:15:05 -0400, W1TEF
wrote:

I will take the blame for that - I should have used red/black shrink
wrap to designate hot and ground. I just assumed that black is ground
in most wiring schemes meaning that white would be hot - 12 Vdc what
else could it be? :)

The color codes are different for AC and DC wiring. To make matters
worse, Europeans seem to be using Red for (+) and Yellow for (-).

I know. The only thing available to me in that gauge was what I used
- and it was a twelve foot run from where the battery placed in the
bow to the fuse panel. The only way to run the cable from the battery
to the fuse panel was under the ribs along the floor through a drain
channel. Round stranded cable of that gauge wouldn't fit right, but
the flat was a perfect fit.

Go with what works. :)


Yup...fits like a glove. I don't have to worry about walking on it... it's
as if the drain channel was made for that size wire.

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On 7/8/10 12:01 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
m...
On 7/8/10 10:47 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she was
already a lap down...;)



"...that big four stroke to blow up..."

That big four stroke engine has about 1/4th the displacement of my little
riding mower.


A real man would use a reel push mower on a lawn the size of yours. Unless
you have emphysema or two prosthetic legs of course.



You're more than welcome to come by with your reel push mower and give
it a try on a nice hot summer day. I'll stay on the line with the rescue
squad.

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"Harry ?" wrote in message
m...
On 7/8/10 12:01 PM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message
m...
On 7/8/10 10:47 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Thu, 8 Jul 2010 10:29:54 -0300, "YukonBound"
wrote:

Maybe... but in here every bit of information is used as a weapon.

You can thank your pal in MD for that state of affairs. I think a lot
of us would appreciate knowing which component or connection was
failing.

Some folks can't admit they made a mistake. ****, I left the choke on
at
the starting line for The Mouse in the 125 class this weekend. She was
obviously having some kind of trouble and was at the back of the field
frantically reaching under the seat.. As she sputtered by I could have
sworn she said "clutch" and I was ****ting bricks waiting for that big
four stroke to blow up, but turned out she had said "choke" and finally
got her finger in the right spot to get it pushed in but by then she
was
already a lap down...;)



"...that big four stroke to blow up..."

That big four stroke engine has about 1/4th the displacement of my
little
riding mower.


A real man would use a reel push mower on a lawn the size of yours.
Unless
you have emphysema or two prosthetic legs of course.



You're more than welcome to come by with your reel push mower and give it
a try on a nice hot summer day. I'll stay on the line with the rescue
squad.

Looks like you have 1/3 acre or less grass. Unless you cleared some more
trees away.