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"NOYB" wrote in message
om... "The guy is brilliant," said the general, who agreed to speak candidly about Clark only if his name were not used. "He's very articulate, he's extremely charming, he has the best strategic sense of anybody I have ever met. But the simple fact is, a lot of people just don't trust his ability as a commander. ---------------------------------------------- Hmmmm. You want a Commander in Chief who "a lot of people don't trust...as a commander"? And further into the article, those who promoted him and were his bosses accounted the mistrust to jealousy and misunderstanding. Clark is obviously very smart and an accomplished strategist. Let's just see how it goes over the next couple of months... |
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"NOYB" wrote in message
om... "There are an awful lot of people," added another retired four-star, who also requested anonymity, "who believe Wes will tell anybody what they want to hear and tell somebody the exact opposite five minutes later." The quote is "who believe." They don't say "he lied to me." ------------------------------------------------ Remember my prediction: *indecisive* and a *waffler*. Better than "tool of the rich" and "misleader" which is the truth. |
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"Joe" wrote in message
... "NOYB" wrote in message om... LOL. You'd think that jps had a boner for Clark. He mustn't have read much up on the guy. Wesley's sordid past is easy pickins'. My father in-law knows Wesley very well. On more than a few occasions he has stated that Colin Powell, and Wesley Clark were two of the biggest assholes he has worked with. I'm going to try and milk him for some info this weekend. They're military men. Did you expect them to be candyasses? |
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NOYB wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net... He'll get mauled by Bush in the pressing palms and kissing babies arena. So what. Anyone who bases votes on a handshake is an idiot anyway. Unfortunately, it's the "swing" voters that vote this way. They make up less than 7% of the electorate, and there's no common theme that appeals to them. They vote for the guy they like best, many times basing their vote on nothing more than charisma. Of course. How do you think a guy like Clinton could actually win.... Clinton is a prime example of someone who is long on charisma, and short on character. Dave |
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Mark Browne wrote:
Reasonable armchair quarterback strategy. If you spend some time reading about the Soviet experience in the area you may see some interesting parallels with what is happening in Iraq now. We are in about the same place in the Soviet timeline. In the first two years the losses were fairly light; the number just about match what we are now seeing. It ended up just about the way you are describing. Towards the end, the soviets did end up huddling in their bases as the looses mounted. Nobody wanted to go out because it was going so badly. They only came out to stage raids on the ever more brazen resistance forces. Unfortunately, it helped the resistance forces because it made the soldiers more predictable. The routes to and from the bases were mined with tank busters. Gunships were shot from the skies as they tried to fly above it all. In the end it was fairly common for the Mujahideen to kidnap a solder, either from the base or on patrol, mutilate or kill him in a most horrible way, and return the body for maximum terror effect. With any luck at all (luck come in two flavors!) this could all be ours! One item you are conveniently leaving out. In the case of the Soviets in Afghanistan, the resistance fighters were being armed and assisted by us (Which is part of the reason why we have a problem now). The resistance fighters had almost unlimited arms and resources at their disposal. In Iraq, there is no superpower supplying arms to the terrorists. Once we cut off their supply lines completely, they'll soon be reduced to throwing rocks. Dave |
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:17:49 -0700, jps wrote:
Bush can't use his war record against Clark. Is there anybody Bush can use his war record against? |
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"jps" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message om... That'd be a helluva strategy to run on: "Vote for Wesley Clark. He'll roll back the Bush tax cut and raise your taxes." Are you vying for Terry McAuliffe's job? 'Cause you're about as politically astute as the moron that assuredly stated Jeb Bush was history in 2002...and then won by 13 percentage points. People are looking for the truth. They know they cannot and will not get it from Bush. Clark's candidacy is being orchestrated by the Clintonista's...and most people know that "Clinton" and "truth" should not even appear in the same sentence. Even if Clark says that he'll roll back tax cuts, he'll make it sound like heaven in comparison to four more years of moronic moves by the buffoon in office now. Rolling back tax cuts during a rebounding economy would result in a double dip recession...and possibly a depression. That sound like "heaven" to you? |
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They're both ego-maniacs...but the difference is Clark actually believes he
could be President. "jps" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message om... LOL. You'd think that jps had a boner for Clark. He mustn't have read much up on the guy. Wesley's sordid past is easy pickins'. My father in-law knows Wesley very well. On more than a few occasions he has stated that Colin Powell, and Wesley Clark were two of the biggest assholes he has worked with. I'm going to try and milk him for some info this weekend. They're military men. Did you expect them to be candyasses? |
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"NOYB" wrote in message . com...
LOL. You'd think that jps had a boner for Clark. He mustn't have read much up on the guy. Wesley's sordid past is easy pickins'. You are fighting with a guy that knows everything about everything! He knows whats in Bush's head, your's, mine, and everyone elses.. he knows what is going to happen next year, he knows what everyones final agenda is, he knows weather or not Saddam was lying, he knows what's going on at Gitmo, Afganastan, Washington, and even knows what the American people, as well as the people of every other country in the world are thinking and what their future will be.... all based on what party the leaders of the country represent... Really, he knows little about much at all but it does not matter, ideology is all that matters to JPS, so why do you bother? |
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"NOYB" wrote in message
om... That'd be a helluva strategy to run on: "Vote for Wesley Clark. He'll roll back the Bush tax cut and raise your taxes." Are you vying for Terry McAuliffe's job? 'Cause you're about as politically astute as the moron that assuredly stated Jeb Bush was history in 2002...and then won by 13 percentage points. Photo of Nookular Boy on the screen: "Your parents taught YOU to handle a budget. Why didn't this man learn the same lesson?" or: "We're all concerned about the quality of our schools. Do you want your children listening to a president who, after thousands of repetitions, can't pronounce the name of the most dangerous weapons on the planet?" |
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