"NOYB" wrote in message . com...
LOL. You'd think that jps had a boner for Clark. He mustn't have read much
up on the guy. Wesley's sordid past is easy pickins'.


You are fighting with a guy that knows everything about everything! He
knows whats in Bush's head, your's, mine, and everyone elses.. he
knows what is going to happen next year, he knows what everyones final
agenda is, he knows weather or not Saddam was lying, he knows what's
going on at Gitmo, Afganastan, Washington, and even knows what the
American people, as well as the people of every other country in the
world are thinking and what their future will be.... all based on what
party the leaders of the country represent... Really, he knows little
about much at all but it does not matter, ideology is all that matters
to JPS, so why do you bother?

You righties are toast.

Because General Fruitcake is joining the race?

This joker almost started WWIII, and could have if not for a British
General.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/671495.stm

He has absolutely zero chance of beating Bush.


Toast.



I'm sure you thought your "espresso tax" would pass also.

"Joe" wrote in message
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You righties are toast.

Because General Fruitcake is joining the race?

This joker almost started WWIII, and could have if not for a British
General.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/671495.stm

He has absolutely zero chance of beating Bush.


Toast.



I'm sure you thought your "espresso tax" would pass also.


I voted against it. Although its proponents were well-intentioned, it was a
poor substitute for funding education properly.

Allow me to repeat myself:

"Toast"

Feel free to quote me.

Well, that article certainly goes into plenty of depth, and completely
explains the motives and decisions of Clark and everyone else involved in
his decisions. If anyone in this NG criticized the decisions of officers
currently working in Iraq, you'd probably say that since we're not there, we
have no business questioning anyone, right?

"Joe" wrote in message
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You righties are toast.

Because General Fruitcake is joining the race?

This joker almost started WWIII, and could have if not for a British
General.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/671495.stm

He has absolutely zero chance of beating Bush.

How do we know he really has military experience?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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How do we know he really has military experience?


Good point. The guy has faked the outcome of military exercises, never
served in the actual theater of operations in Kosovo, and very nearly
started WWIII with the Russians.

"NOYB" wrote in message
news

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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How do we know he really has military experience?


Good point. The guy has faked the outcome of military exercises, never
served in the actual theater of operations in Kosovo, and very nearly
started WWIII with the Russians.


Considering that the rightists in the group think it is such a wonderful
thing that little Bush got the USA in war in the middle east, this may be a
bonus for you!

Mark Browne

Mark,
I think the absolute worst thing that could happen would be if a guy like
Dean won the Presidency and pulled us out of Iraq too soon. The
repercussions would be awful. "Rack up enough US casualties, get the media
to play along, and we can control the infidels".

At least if a guy like World War III Wesley was in charge, we could be sure
he'd probably nuke someone over there before long...and that can't be *all*
bad.

Nevertheless, if I used the snowball's-chance-in-Hell analogy to describe
either Dean or Wesley's chances of winning the '04 election, it wouldn't be
fair to snowballs.




"Mark Browne" wrote in message
news:LrO9b.368591$Oz4.144038@rwcrnsc54...

"NOYB" wrote in message
news

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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How do we know he really has military experience?


Good point. The guy has faked the outcome of military exercises, never
served in the actual theater of operations in Kosovo, and very nearly
started WWIII with the Russians.


Considering that the rightists in the group think it is such a wonderful
thing that little Bush got the USA in war in the middle east, this may be
a
bonus for you!

Mark Browne

"NOYB" wrote in message
om...
Mark,
I think the absolute worst thing that could happen would be if a guy like
Dean won the Presidency and pulled us out of Iraq too soon. The
repercussions would be awful. "Rack up enough US casualties, get the
media
to play along, and we can control the infidels".

snip
NYOB,

There were a chorus of voices saying that we should stay the course in
Vietnam right up until the end.

While this may be a bit early to ask about Iraq, What sorts of signs would
you accept that things are not working out - at what point would you make
the call that it *is* time to cut and run?

Much of the discussion has been focused on what we *want* for Iraq - a
western style democracy, oil, a base in the middle east, a positive
political poster child for the neocon ideals, security. It is relatively
easy to frame and measure success against the goals.

The shape of the answer to my question above goes a long way towards
deciding if current actions are taking the USA towards failure.

Before you rush to answer this, do you think that the Soviets left
Afghanistan too early or too late? In perfect 20/20 hindsight, what should
have been the warning signs? Considering the eventual cost of the occupation
to the Soviet government (complete collapse of the government) this does
seem like a relevant question in this closely related situation.

Mark Browne

"NOYB" wrote in message
om...
Mark,
I think the absolute worst thing that could happen would be if a guy like
Dean won the Presidency and pulled us out of Iraq too soon. The
repercussions would be awful. "Rack up enough US casualties, get the
media
to play along, and we can control the infidels".

You are again confused. While the pundits like Sean Hannity are quick to
state the Democrats want to bring the troops home, Dean has never stated
this and has, in fact, argued against it. We're there and we need to finish
what we've started in the best possible fashion (which probably differs
greatly from Bush's plan to finance his buddies revenues with Iraqi oil).

At least if a guy like World War III Wesley was in charge, we could be
sure
he'd probably nuke someone over there before long...and that can't be
*all*
bad.

Schooled in both combat and diplomacy. An IQ probably between 80 and 100
points above Bush.

Nevertheless, if I used the snowball's-chance-in-Hell analogy to describe
either Dean or Wesley's chances of winning the '04 election, it wouldn't
be
fair to snowballs.

You're talking out of your ass, as usual. Just wait, you'll be eating
whatever tripe you're spewing so I'd suggest you don't spew too much.