BoatBanter.com

BoatBanter.com (https://www.boatbanter.com/)
-   General (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/)
-   -   Remember Governor Macaca? (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/115680-remember-governor-macaca.html)

YukonBound June 11th 10 04:25 PM

Remember Governor Macaca?
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:32:34 -0400, Larry wrote:

John H wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:46:14 -0400, wrote:


Tim wrote:

On Jun 4, 12:58 pm, John wrote:


On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


On Jun 3, 6:14 pm, wrote:


On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote:


On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:




That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?




Until I get tired of it.




I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21'
Parker in 2008.




Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21?




In no particular order:




While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or
dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are
three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat.




Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far
forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the
boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on
the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming
through chop.




I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour
plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open
center console.




The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the
larger Parker burned.




I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat
took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself.




Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft..
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that
you explained it, I can understand why.




23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.




If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee.




My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that
stout.




i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than
what I'm used to dealing with.




It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.




Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would
take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing.




4WD Toyotas.




--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text -




- Show quoted text -




A 'Tundra?" by chance?




I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve any
need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in the
back, i figured my station wagon is good enough.


He's got a 4Runner, same as me, unless he upgraded recently. I like the Tundra,
but I'd like it a lot better if they made it with a diesel.


They probably do make a diesel version, John for another overseas
market. It's amazing the stuff you find overseas that probably could
or should be for sale here.


I bought the X5 35d. I used to have the 4.8L gas engine. I love it.
It performs almost as well and I get about 23/gallon compared to
15.5/gallon with more expensive premium gasoline.

How much will it tow? And, did you have to go to technical school for a year to
learn how to operate it?

It will tow 6615#. It's an odd number but it's actually 3000
kilograms. I only tow about half that much so it's easy to forget it's
there.

The technology is more intuitive than the earlier models. This is the
third I have leased and it is simple compared to the other two. There
are so many options I haven't learned them all.


That's not a bad towing capacity. The 4Runner does only 7000. Glad to hear
they've applied some human factors engineering to the technology. They'd caught
a lot of heat for that in the past.


My RAV4 will tow anything. And it's cute as a button, too!

YukonBound June 11th 10 06:01 PM

Remember Governor Macaca?
 


"YukonBound" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:32:34 -0400, Larry wrote:

John H wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:46:14 -0400, wrote:


Tim wrote:

On Jun 4, 12:58 pm, John wrote:


On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


On Jun 3, 6:14 pm, wrote:


On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote:


On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:




That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next
boating adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded
for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?




Until I get tired of it.




I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the
present 21'
Parker in 2008.




Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to
a 21?




In no particular order:




While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a
challenging or
dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the
waves are
three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing
boat.




Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is
so far
forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the
part of the
boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is
farther back, on
the part of the boat that does not leave the water while
slamming
through chop.




I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That
took an hour
plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on
the open
center console.




The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise
that the
larger Parker burned.




I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The
larger boat
took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by
myself.




Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere
4 ft..
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around.
Now that
you explained it, I can understand why.




23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did
have a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.




If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker
was about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found,
weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25
was a mod vee.




My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim
platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet
forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but
with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what
the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's
that
stout.




i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit
testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot
more than
what I'm used to dealing with.




It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved
concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length
piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.




Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope
would
take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the
thing.




4WD Toyotas.




--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by
another name.- Hide quoted text -




- Show quoted text -




A 'Tundra?" by chance?




I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve
any
need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in
the
back, i figured my station wagon is good enough.


He's got a 4Runner, same as me, unless he upgraded recently. I like
the Tundra,
but I'd like it a lot better if they made it with a diesel.


They probably do make a diesel version, John for another overseas
market. It's amazing the stuff you find overseas that probably could
or should be for sale here.


I bought the X5 35d. I used to have the 4.8L gas engine. I love it.
It performs almost as well and I get about 23/gallon compared to
15.5/gallon with more expensive premium gasoline.

How much will it tow? And, did you have to go to technical school for
a year to
learn how to operate it?

It will tow 6615#. It's an odd number but it's actually 3000
kilograms. I only tow about half that much so it's easy to forget it's
there.

The technology is more intuitive than the earlier models. This is the
third I have leased and it is simple compared to the other two. There
are so many options I haven't learned them all.


That's not a bad towing capacity. The 4Runner does only 7000. Glad to
hear
they've applied some human factors engineering to the technology. They'd
caught
a lot of heat for that in the past.


My RAV4 will tow anything. And it's cute as a button, too!


Tow this, ButtonBoy!


hk June 11th 10 07:35 PM

Remember Governor Macaca?
 
In article ,
says...

"YukonBound" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:32:34 -0400, Larry wrote:

John H wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:46:14 -0400, wrote:


Tim wrote:

On Jun 4, 12:58 pm, John wrote:


On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


On Jun 3, 6:14 pm, wrote:


On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote:


On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:




That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next
boating adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded
for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?




Until I get tired of it.




I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the
present 21'
Parker in 2008.




Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to
a 21?




In no particular order:




While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a
challenging or
dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the
waves are
three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing
boat.




Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is
so far
forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the
part of the
boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is
farther back, on
the part of the boat that does not leave the water while
slamming
through chop.




I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That
took an hour
plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on
the open
center console.




The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise
that the
larger Parker burned.




I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The
larger boat
took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by
myself.




Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere
4 ft..
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around.
Now that
you explained it, I can understand why.




23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did
have a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.




If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker
was about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found,
weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25
was a mod vee.




My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim
platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet
forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but
with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what
the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's
that
stout.




i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit
testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot
more than
what I'm used to dealing with.




It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved
concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length
piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.




Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope
would
take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the
thing.




4WD Toyotas.




--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by
another name.- Hide quoted text -




- Show quoted text -




A 'Tundra?" by chance?




I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve
any
need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in
the
back, i figured my station wagon is good enough.


He's got a 4Runner, same as me, unless he upgraded recently. I like
the Tundra,
but I'd like it a lot better if they made it with a diesel.


They probably do make a diesel version, John for another overseas
market. It's amazing the stuff you find overseas that probably could
or should be for sale here.


I bought the X5 35d. I used to have the 4.8L gas engine. I love it.
It performs almost as well and I get about 23/gallon compared to
15.5/gallon with more expensive premium gasoline.

How much will it tow? And, did you have to go to technical school for
a year to
learn how to operate it?

It will tow 6615#. It's an odd number but it's actually 3000
kilograms. I only tow about half that much so it's easy to forget it's
there.

The technology is more intuitive than the earlier models. This is the
third I have leased and it is simple compared to the other two. There
are so many options I haven't learned them all.

That's not a bad towing capacity. The 4Runner does only 7000. Glad to
hear
they've applied some human factors engineering to the technology. They'd
caught
a lot of heat for that in the past.


My RAV4 will tow anything. And it's cute as a button, too!


Tow this, ButtonBoy!


Don, I'm going to try to tell you this again, that kid like thing right
there makes you look downright stupid.

YukonBound June 11th 10 08:44 PM

Remember Governor Macaca?
 


"hk" wrote in message
...

Don, I'm going to try to tell you this again, that kid like thing right
there makes you look downright stupid.



....and constantly spoofing someone so badly that a 13 year old can tell the
difference makes you what??


Larry[_21_] June 12th 10 04:24 AM

Remember Governor Macaca?
 
YukonBound wrote:
I bought the X5 35d. I used to have the 4.8L gas engine. I love it.
It performs almost as well and I get about 23/gallon compared to
15.5/gallon with more expensive premium gasoline.

How much will it tow? And, did you have to go to technical school
for a year to
learn how to operate it?

It will tow 6615#. It's an odd number but it's actually 3000
kilograms. I only tow about half that much so it's easy to forget
it's there.

The technology is more intuitive than the earlier models. This is
the third I have leased and it is simple compared to the other two.
There are so many options I haven't learned them all.



Say what?
It's simple, but you haven't been able to learn how to operate all the
options???
~~ Snerk ~~ I think it's the operator who is simple!

Don, you have NO idea what you're talking about. I said I haven't
learned them "yet". I am more than capable of learning and
understanding them.

Can you send Google maps to your car? Can you set your car to start
recirculating air at a set time before you get in it? Can you set the
height the tailgate opens in auto mode? Can you program HD radio
stations? There is a LOT more it can do. The interface is just easier
than the old one. There are 5X more options.

BTW- "Say What?" still makes you "sound" dumb. Do you use that phrase
when you speak to people?



Larry[_21_] June 12th 10 04:32 AM

Remember Governor Macaca?
 
John H wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:32:34 -0400, wrote:


John H wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:46:14 -0400, wrote:



Tim wrote:


On Jun 4, 12:58 pm, John wrote:



On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



On Jun 3, 6:14 pm, wrote:



On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote:





On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote:



On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:





On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote:



On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:





On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote:



On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:





On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote:



On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:





That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?





Until I get tired of it.





I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21'
Parker in 2008.





Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21?





In no particular order:





While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or
dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are
three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat.





Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far
forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the
boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on
the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming
through chop.





I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour
plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open
center console.





The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the
larger Parker burned.





I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat
took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself.





Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft..
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that
you explained it, I can understand why.





23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.





If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee.





My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that
stout.





i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than
what I'm used to dealing with.





It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.





Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would
take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing.





4WD Toyotas.





--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text -





- Show quoted text -





A 'Tundra?" by chance?





I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve any
need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in the
back, i figured my station wagon is good enough.



He's got a 4Runner, same as me, unless he upgraded recently. I like the Tundra,
but I'd like it a lot better if they made it with a diesel.



They probably do make a diesel version, John for another overseas
market. It's amazing the stuff you find overseas that probably could
or should be for sale here.



I bought the X5 35d. I used to have the 4.8L gas engine. I love it.
It performs almost as well and I get about 23/gallon compared to
15.5/gallon with more expensive premium gasoline.


How much will it tow? And, did you have to go to technical school for a year to
learn how to operate it?


It will tow 6615#. It's an odd number but it's actually 3000
kilograms. I only tow about half that much so it's easy to forget it's
there.

The technology is more intuitive than the earlier models. This is the
third I have leased and it is simple compared to the other two. There
are so many options I haven't learned them all.

That's not a bad towing capacity. The 4Runner does only 7000. Glad to hear
they've applied some human factors engineering to the technology. They'd caught
a lot of heat for that in the past.

I considered a lot of vehicles before I got this one. Towing capacity
was the initial factor and then it was about comfort and safety. I
enjoyed my Acura MDX but I was disappointed with it's towing
capabilities. I wasn't thrilled with the Escalade, Navigator, Cayenne,
Touareg, QX56, Q7, or the offerings from Mercedes.

YukonBound June 12th 10 06:43 PM

Remember Governor Macaca?
 


"Larry" wrote in message
...
YukonBound wrote:
I bought the X5 35d. I used to have the 4.8L gas engine. I love it.
It performs almost as well and I get about 23/gallon compared to
15.5/gallon with more expensive premium gasoline.

How much will it tow? And, did you have to go to technical school for a
year to
learn how to operate it?

It will tow 6615#. It's an odd number but it's actually 3000 kilograms.
I only tow about half that much so it's easy to forget it's there.

The technology is more intuitive than the earlier models. This is the
third I have leased and it is simple compared to the other two. There
are so many options I haven't learned them all.



Say what?
It's simple, but you haven't been able to learn how to operate all the
options???
~~ Snerk ~~ I think it's the operator who is simple!

Don, you have NO idea what you're talking about. I said I haven't learned
them "yet". I am more than capable of learning and understanding them.

Can you send Google maps to your car? Can you set your car to start
recirculating air at a set time before you get in it? Can you set the
height the tailgate opens in auto mode? Can you program HD radio
stations? There is a LOT more it can do. The interface is just easier
than the old one. There are 5X more options.

BTW- "Say What?" still makes you "sound" dumb. Do you use that phrase
when you speak to people?


Of course not... I talk normal up here.
I just try to speak the local lingo when I converse with a foreigner. (that
would be you)


hk June 14th 10 01:20 PM

Remember Governor Macaca?
 
In article ,
says...

"hk" wrote in message
...

Don, I'm going to try to tell you this again, that kid like thing right
there makes you look downright stupid.



...and constantly spoofing someone so badly that a 13 year old can tell the
difference makes you what??


I'm not spoofing anyone. Do you want me to repeat all of my grand
accomplishments?


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:46 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com