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I used to have a 17' VIP runabout that I trailered with my company car -
a V6 Taurus! There was one occasion that I had to have two people sit
on the hood to give the front-wheel drive some traction.


Did Margaret know what you were up to? Is that how you got demoted to
counterman?
Sure, Don, whatever you say. I guess you still haven't called her or you
would have moved on to a new attack.

I'd hate to embarrass he by showing the kind of people she has working for
her.... but don't push me. boy!

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I used to have a 17' VIP runabout that I trailered with my company
car - a V6 Taurus! There was one occasion that I had to have two
people sit on the hood to give the front-wheel drive some traction.


Did Margaret know what you were up to? Is that how you got demoted to
counterman?
Sure, Don, whatever you say. I guess you still haven't called her or you
would have moved on to a new attack.

I'd hate to embarrass *he* by showing the kind of people she has working
for her.... but don't push me. boy!

make that .............*her*

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I used to have a 17' VIP runabout that I trailered with my company
car - a V6 Taurus! There was one occasion that I had to have two
people sit on the hood to give the front-wheel drive some traction.


Did Margaret know what you were up to? Is that how you got demoted
to counterman?
Sure, Don, whatever you say. I guess you still haven't called her
or you would have moved on to a new attack.

I'd hate to embarrass *he* by showing the kind of people she has
working for her.... but don't push me. boy!

make that .............*her*
What about the "me. boy!"? Ya wanna fix that, too? BTW - I am self
employed.

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"Larry" wrote in message
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I used to have a 17' VIP runabout that I trailered with my company
car - a V6 Taurus! There was one occasion that I had to have two
people sit on the hood to give the front-wheel drive some traction.


Did Margaret know what you were up to? Is that how you got demoted to
counterman?
Sure, Don, whatever you say. I guess you still haven't called her or
you would have moved on to a new attack.

I'd hate to embarrass *he* by showing the kind of people she has working
for her.... but don't push me. boy!

make that .............*her*
What about the "me. boy!"? Ya wanna fix that, too? BTW - I am self
employed.

Yeah! Tell that to Margaret Kennedy.

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I used to have a 17' VIP runabout that I trailered with my
company car - a V6 Taurus! There was one occasion that I had to
have two people sit on the hood to give the front-wheel drive
some traction.


Did Margaret know what you were up to? Is that how you got
demoted to counterman?
Sure, Don, whatever you say. I guess you still haven't called her
or you would have moved on to a new attack.

I'd hate to embarrass *he* by showing the kind of people she has
working for her.... but don't push me. boy!

make that .............*her*
What about the "me. boy!"? Ya wanna fix that, too? BTW - I am self
employed.

Yeah! Tell that to Margaret Kennedy.
Why don't you tell her or STFU!

Doesn't your boy need a fresh beer?

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I used to have a 17' VIP runabout that I trailered with my
company car - a V6 Taurus! There was one occasion that I had to
have two people sit on the hood to give the front-wheel drive
some traction.


Did Margaret know what you were up to? Is that how you got
demoted to counterman?
Sure, Don, whatever you say. I guess you still haven't called her
or you would have moved on to a new attack.

I'd hate to embarrass *he* by showing the kind of people she has
working for her.... but don't push me. boy!

make that .............*her*
What about the "me. boy!"? Ya wanna fix that, too? BTW - I am self
employed.

Yeah! Tell that to Margaret Kennedy.
Why don't you tell her or STFU!

Doesn't your boy need a fresh beer?

He's a wino now. Beer just didn't get him buzzed enough.

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On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:46:14 -0400, Larry wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Jun 4, 12:58 pm, John wrote:

On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jun 3, 6:14 pm, wrote:

On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote:


On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote:

On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:


On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote:

On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:


On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote:

On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:


On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote:

On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:


That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?


Until I get tired of it.


I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21'
Parker in 2008.


Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21?


In no particular order:


While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or
dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are
three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat.


Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far
forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the
boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on
the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming
through chop.


I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour
plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open
center console.


The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the
larger Parker burned.


I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat
took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself.


Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft..
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that
you explained it, I can understand why.


23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.


If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee.


My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that
stout.


i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than
what I'm used to dealing with.


It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.


Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would
take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing.


4WD Toyotas.


--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


A 'Tundra?" by chance?


I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve any
need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in the
back, i figured my station wagon is good enough.

He's got a 4Runner, same as me, unless he upgraded recently. I like the Tundra,
but I'd like it a lot better if they made it with a diesel.

They probably do make a diesel version, John for another overseas
market. It's amazing the stuff you find overseas that probably could
or should be for sale here.

I bought the X5 35d. I used to have the 4.8L gas engine. I love it.
It performs almost as well and I get about 23/gallon compared to
15.5/gallon with more expensive premium gasoline.

How much will it tow? And, did you have to go to technical school for a year to
learn how to operate it?

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John H wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:46:14 -0400, wrote:


Tim wrote:

On Jun 4, 12:58 pm, John wrote:


On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


On Jun 3, 6:14 pm, wrote:


On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote:


On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:




That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?




Until I get tired of it.




I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21'
Parker in 2008.




Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21?




In no particular order:




While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or
dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are
three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat.




Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far
forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the
boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on
the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming
through chop.




I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour
plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open
center console.




The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the
larger Parker burned.




I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat
took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself.




Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft..
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that
you explained it, I can understand why.




23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.




If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee.




My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that
stout.




i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than
what I'm used to dealing with.




It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.




Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would
take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing.




4WD Toyotas.




--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text -




- Show quoted text -




A 'Tundra?" by chance?




I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve any
need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in the
back, i figured my station wagon is good enough.


He's got a 4Runner, same as me, unless he upgraded recently. I like the Tundra,
but I'd like it a lot better if they made it with a diesel.


They probably do make a diesel version, John for another overseas
market. It's amazing the stuff you find overseas that probably could
or should be for sale here.


I bought the X5 35d. I used to have the 4.8L gas engine. I love it.
It performs almost as well and I get about 23/gallon compared to
15.5/gallon with more expensive premium gasoline.

How much will it tow? And, did you have to go to technical school for a year to
learn how to operate it?

It will tow 6615#. It's an odd number but it's actually 3000
kilograms. I only tow about half that much so it's easy to forget it's
there.

The technology is more intuitive than the earlier models. This is the
third I have leased and it is simple compared to the other two. There
are so many options I haven't learned them all.

Remember Governor Macaca?
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:46:14 -0400, wrote:


Tim wrote:

On Jun 4, 12:58 pm, John wrote:


On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


On Jun 3, 6:14 pm, wrote:


On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote:


On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:




That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating
adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for
a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?




Until I get tired of it.




I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the
present 21'
Parker in 2008.




Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a
21?




In no particular order:




While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a
challenging or
dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the
waves are
three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing
boat.




Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so
far
forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the
part of the
boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther
back, on
the part of the boat that does not leave the water while
slamming
through chop.




I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took
an hour
plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the
open
center console.




The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that
the
larger Parker burned.




I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The
larger boat
took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself.




Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4
ft..
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now
that
you explained it, I can understand why.




23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did
have a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.




If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was
about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found,
weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was
a mod vee.




My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim
platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet
forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with
the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that
stout.




i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy
for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more
than
what I'm used to dealing with.




It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved
concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.




Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would
take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing.




4WD Toyotas.




--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another
name.- Hide quoted text -




- Show quoted text -




A 'Tundra?" by chance?




I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve
any
need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in the
back, i figured my station wagon is good enough.


He's got a 4Runner, same as me, unless he upgraded recently. I like
the Tundra,
but I'd like it a lot better if they made it with a diesel.


They probably do make a diesel version, John for another overseas
market. It's amazing the stuff you find overseas that probably could
or should be for sale here.


I bought the X5 35d. I used to have the 4.8L gas engine. I love it.
It performs almost as well and I get about 23/gallon compared to
15.5/gallon with more expensive premium gasoline.

How much will it tow? And, did you have to go to technical school for a
year to
learn how to operate it?

It will tow 6615#. It's an odd number but it's actually 3000 kilograms.
I only tow about half that much so it's easy to forget it's there.

The technology is more intuitive than the earlier models. This is the
third I have leased and it is simple compared to the other two. There are
so many options I haven't learned them all.

Say what?
It's simple, but you haven't been able to learn how to operate all the
options???
~~ Snerk ~~ I think it's the operator who is simple!

Remember Governor Macaca?
 

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:32:34 -0400, Larry wrote:

John H wrote:
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:46:14 -0400, wrote:


Tim wrote:

On Jun 4, 12:58 pm, John wrote:


On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


On Jun 3, 6:14 pm, wrote:


On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote:


On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:




On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote:


On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:




That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?




Until I get tired of it.




I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21'
Parker in 2008.




Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21?




In no particular order:




While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or
dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are
three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat.




Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far
forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the
boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on
the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming
through chop.




I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour
plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open
center console.




The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the
larger Parker burned.




I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat
took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself.




Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft..
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that
you explained it, I can understand why.




23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.




If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee.




My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that
stout.




i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than
what I'm used to dealing with.




It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.




Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would
take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing.




4WD Toyotas.




--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text -




- Show quoted text -




A 'Tundra?" by chance?




I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve any
need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in the
back, i figured my station wagon is good enough.


He's got a 4Runner, same as me, unless he upgraded recently. I like the Tundra,
but I'd like it a lot better if they made it with a diesel.


They probably do make a diesel version, John for another overseas
market. It's amazing the stuff you find overseas that probably could
or should be for sale here.


I bought the X5 35d. I used to have the 4.8L gas engine. I love it.
It performs almost as well and I get about 23/gallon compared to
15.5/gallon with more expensive premium gasoline.

How much will it tow? And, did you have to go to technical school for a year to
learn how to operate it?

It will tow 6615#. It's an odd number but it's actually 3000
kilograms. I only tow about half that much so it's easy to forget it's
there.

The technology is more intuitive than the earlier models. This is the
third I have leased and it is simple compared to the other two. There
are so many options I haven't learned them all.

That's not a bad towing capacity. The 4Runner does only 7000. Glad to hear
they've applied some human factors engineering to the technology. They'd caught
a lot of heat for that in the past.