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You know, Republican George Allen, the moron who kept shooting himself
in the foot when he ran for hte U.S. Senate from Virginia... This is what he does these days: Allen is chairman of American Energy Freedom Center, a lobbying firm dedicated to expanding domestic coal, oil, and nuclear production while fending off climate-change legislation to reduce carbon emissions, the science behind which he says is, “to be charitable about it, debatable.” The group is a subsidiary of the Institute for Energy Research, a group led by former Enron executive Robert Bradley Jr. that’s taken in $307,000 in funding from ExxonMobil since 1998, according to records compiled by Greenpeace. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? If the weather cooperates, I'm planning on launching the barge this weekend. |
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On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:
That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On Jun 3, 5:12*am, hk wrote:
On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? |
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In article 6d701c4b-7970-413d-9509-620ad00ad886
@o12g2000vba.googlegroups.com, says... On Jun 3, 5:12*am, hk wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? He got lonely on the big boat. |
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On Jun 3, 6:41*am, BAR wrote:
In article 6d701c4b-7970-413d-9509-620ad00ad886 @o12g2000vba.googlegroups.com, says... On Jun 3, 5:12*am, hk wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? He got lonely on the big boat. Well, I suppose lopping off 4 feet would make things a bit cozier... L:OL |
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On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On Jun 3, 6:53*am, hk wrote:
On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, *wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure.. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. *On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. |
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On 6/3/10 7:41 AM, BAR wrote:
In article6d701c4b-7970-413d-9509-620ad00ad886 @o12g2000vba.googlegroups.com, says... On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? He got lonely on the big boat. I'm sorry, Bertie, but I forgot...what make, model, year of boat do you have? -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On Jun 3, 7:05*am, hk wrote:
On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, *wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, * *wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. *On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. *Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee.. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. |
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On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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"hk" wrote in message ... On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Yup...a good ramp makes all the difference (with the proper tow vehicle). |
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On 6/3/10 12:04 PM, YukonBound wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Yup...a good ramp makes all the difference (with the proper tow vehicle). We're "blessed" around here with good ramps practically next door, about 20 miles south, and just outside annapolis..,plus a couple of other marinas have decent ramps. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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"hk" wrote in message m... On 6/3/10 12:07 PM, YukonBound wrote: "YukonBound" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. How long is your lobster boat, overall? Lets see...since your 'Johnson' is about 3"........ make that approx 12 feet to each of your 'inches'. If you need help with the math, try the Preparation H man. Fascinating how the flajims (all the ID spoofers are flajims) find it necessary to have a life through the lives of other posters. Of course, if the highest point of my life was being in the navy, I might be tempted to ID spoof, too. Yup! They are a sad, pathetic, motley bunch. |
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says... "hk" wrote in message m... On 6/3/10 12:07 PM, YukonBound wrote: "YukonBound" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. How long is your lobster boat, overall? Lets see...since your 'Johnson' is about 3"........ make that approx 12 feet to each of your 'inches'. If you need help with the math, try the Preparation H man. Fascinating how the flajims (all the ID spoofers are flajims) find it necessary to have a life through the lives of other posters. Of course, if the highest point of my life was being in the navy, I might be tempted to ID spoof, too. Yup! They are a sad, pathetic, motley bunch. Pretty sad when people here have to lie about their boats, too eh? Oh, wait, never mind. Forget I said that. |
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says... On 6/3/10 12:07 PM, YukonBound wrote: "YukonBound" wrote in message ... In article , says... On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. How long is your lobster boat, overall? Lets see...since your 'Johnson' is about 3"........ make that approx 12 feet to each of your 'inches'. If you need help with the math, try the Preparation H man. Fascinating how the flajims (all the ID spoofers are flajims) find it necessary to have a life through the lives of other posters. Of course, if the highest point of my life was being in the navy, I might be tempted to ID spoof, too. Spoofer alert, everyone knows that I post pictures of all of my real possessions. Oh, wait, never mind. |
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On Jun 3, 10:21*am, hk wrote:
On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, *wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, * *wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, * * *wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. *On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. *Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing. |
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On Jun 3, 11:04*am, "YukonBound" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, *wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, * *wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, * * *wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. *On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. *Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Yup...a good ramp makes all the difference (with the proper tow vehicle).- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I tow my 23 ft. Marquis on a tandem trailer with a 1990 Mercury stationwagon. The 302 engine in the wagon is pretty limp as far as over all torque goes, but it pulls the craft ok at 50 mph and not in overdrive. Push it any harder than that and the fuel guage drops like a rock and the engine temp starts to clime rather dramatically. I need to add a transmission oil cooler. The ramps at Carlyle lake have a nice lazy slope to them an so there's no problem concerning launch or retrieve. I've taken it to Omega lake where the ramp is shorter and steeper, and it taks a pretty good grunt to pull the boat out of the water, but it still isn't under a hard strain. |
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... On Jun 3, 5:12 am, hk wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? I could never find anyone to go boating with me, and I didn't have the skill or experience to dock a 25'er on my own. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing. 4WD Toyotas. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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hk wrote:
On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. 25 hours per year? That's sad. |
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hk wrote:
On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Make a friend and you won't have to launch and boat alone. I've never boated by myself in any of my boats. Having friends aboard is half the fun! |
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YukonBound wrote:
"hk" wrote in message ... On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Yup...a good ramp makes all the difference (with the proper tow vehicle). Yep. 4WD! I have seen to many bozos smoke the hell out of their tires. Even SUV's and pickup trucks with two wheel drive. |
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On 6/4/10 7:04 AM, BAR wrote:
In , says... My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Yup...a good ramp makes all the difference (with the proper tow vehicle). Except they don't make a V24 Rav4 do they Don? I forgot...just what make and model of boat do you currently own, Bertie? -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On 6/4/10 7:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In , says... Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. How long is your lobster boat, overall? He doesn't give out that information to anyone. But I suspect it is in the range of 36" to 40" LOA. Even a bathtub toy boat is bigger than the boat you own, right, Bertie? -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On Jun 3, 6:14*pm, hk wrote:
On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 10:21 am, *wrote: On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, * *wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, * * *wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, * * * *wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. *On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. *Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would take a pretty good truckand brakes *I would think to hold the thing. 4WD Toyotas. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A 'Tundra?" by chance? I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve any need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in the back, i figured my station wagon is good enough. |
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On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Jun 3, 6:14*pm, hk wrote: On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 10:21 am, *wrote: On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, * *wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, * * *wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, * * * *wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. *On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. *Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would take a pretty good truckand brakes *I would think to hold the thing. 4WD Toyotas. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A 'Tundra?" by chance? I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve any need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in the back, i figured my station wagon is good enough. He's got a 4Runner, same as me, unless he upgraded recently. I like the Tundra, but I'd like it a lot better if they made it with a diesel. |
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On Jun 3, 6:14 pm, wrote: On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing. 4WD Toyotas. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A 'Tundra?" by chance? I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve any need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in the back, i figured my station wagon is good enough. I used to have a 17' VIP runabout that I trailered with my company car - a V6 Taurus! There was one occasion that I had to have two people sit on the hood to give the front-wheel drive some traction. |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... I used to have a 17' VIP runabout that I trailered with my company car - a V6 Taurus! There was one occasion that I had to have two people sit on the hood to give the front-wheel drive some traction. Did Margaret know what you were up to? Is that how you got demoted to counterman? |
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On Jun 4, 12:58*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:14 pm, hk wrote: On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft.. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing. 4WD Toyotas. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A 'Tundra?" by chance? I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve any need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in the back, i figured my station wagon is good enough. He's got a 4Runner, same as me, unless he upgraded recently. I like the Tundra, but I'd like it a lot better if they made it with a diesel. They probably do make a diesel version, John for another overseas market. It's amazing the stuff you find overseas that probably could or should be for sale here. |
Remember Governor Macaca?
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:55:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Jun 4, 12:58*pm, John H wrote: On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:14 pm, hk wrote: On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing. 4WD Toyotas. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A 'Tundra?" by chance? I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve any need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in the back, i figured my station wagon is good enough. He's got a 4Runner, same as me, unless he upgraded recently. I like the Tundra, but I'd like it a lot better if they made it with a diesel. They probably do make a diesel version, John for another overseas market. It's amazing the stuff you find overseas that probably could or should be for sale here. You may be right. When my friends from Holland come here, they're always surprised at the models sold here that can't be found in Europe. It works both ways. |
Remember Governor Macaca?
On Jun 5, 7:13*am, John H wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:55:54 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 4, 12:58*pm, John H wrote: On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:14 pm, hk wrote: On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing. 4WD Toyotas. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A 'Tundra?" by chance? I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve any need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in the back, i figured my station wagon is good enough. He's got a 4Runner, same as me, unless he upgraded recently. I like the Tundra, but I'd like it a lot better if they made it with a diesel. They probably do make a diesel version, John for another overseas market. It's amazing the stuff you find overseas that probably could or should be for sale here. You may be right. When my friends from Holland come here, they're always surprised at the models sold here that can't be found in Europe. It works both ways. I never really thought of it that way, John. But you're right. |
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YukonBound wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message ... I used to have a 17' VIP runabout that I trailered with my company car - a V6 Taurus! There was one occasion that I had to have two people sit on the hood to give the front-wheel drive some traction. Did Margaret know what you were up to? Is that how you got demoted to counterman? Sure, Don, whatever you say. I guess you still haven't called her or you would have moved on to a new attack. |
Remember Governor Macaca?
Tim wrote:
On Jun 4, 12:58 pm, John wrote: On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Jun 3, 6:14 pm, wrote: On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote: On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote: On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote: That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure. You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a different one. how long to you plan to keep this one? Until I get tired of it. I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21' Parker in 2008. Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21? In no particular order: While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat. Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming through chop. I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open center console. The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the larger Parker burned. I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself. Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft.. longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that you explained it, I can understand why. 23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27 and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all. If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about 32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee. My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform. Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that stout. i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than what I'm used to dealing with. It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier. Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing. 4WD Toyotas. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - A 'Tundra?" by chance? I almst bout a Toyota Tundra, but figured out I really didn't ahve any need for a pickup truck. No more than what I would really haul in the back, i figured my station wagon is good enough. He's got a 4Runner, same as me, unless he upgraded recently. I like the Tundra, but I'd like it a lot better if they made it with a diesel. They probably do make a diesel version, John for another overseas market. It's amazing the stuff you find overseas that probably could or should be for sale here. I bought the X5 35d. I used to have the 4.8L gas engine. I love it. It performs almost as well and I get about 23/gallon compared to 15.5/gallon with more expensive premium gasoline. |
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