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On Jun 3, 10:21*am, hk wrote:
On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:





On Jun 3, 7:05 am, *wrote:
On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jun 3, 6:53 am, * *wrote:
On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jun 3, 5:12 am, * * *wrote:
On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:

That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?

Until I get tired of it.

I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21'
Parker in 2008.

Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21?

In no particular order:

While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or
dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are
three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat.

Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far
forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the
boat that is pounding. *On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on
the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming
through chop.

I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour
plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open
center console.

The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the
larger Parker burned.

I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat
took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself.

Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft.
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. *Now that
you explained it, I can understand why.

23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.

If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee.

My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that
stout.

i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than
what I'm used to dealing with.

It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.

Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would
take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing.

Remember Governor Macaca?
 

On Jun 3, 11:04*am, "YukonBound" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

...





On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 3, 7:05 am, *wrote:
On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jun 3, 6:53 am, * *wrote:
On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jun 3, 5:12 am, * * *wrote:
On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:

That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating
adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?

Until I get tired of it.

I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21'
Parker in 2008.

Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21?

In no particular order:

While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or
dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are
three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat.

Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far
forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the
boat that is pounding. *On my 21 footer the seating is farther back,
on
the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming
through chop.

I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour
plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open
center console.

The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the
larger Parker burned.

I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat
took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself.

Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft.
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. *Now that
you explained it, I can understand why.

23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.

If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod
vee.

My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that
stout.

i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than
what I'm used to dealing with.

It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.

Yup...a good ramp makes all the difference (with the proper tow vehicle).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I tow my 23 ft. Marquis on a tandem trailer with a 1990 Mercury
stationwagon. The 302 engine in the wagon is pretty limp as far as
over all torque goes, but it pulls the craft ok at 50 mph and not in
overdrive. Push it any harder than that and the fuel guage drops like
a rock and the engine temp starts to clime rather dramatically. I need
to add a transmission oil cooler.

The ramps at Carlyle lake have a nice lazy slope to them an so there's
no problem concerning launch or retrieve. I've taken it to Omega lake
where the ramp is shorter and steeper, and it taks a pretty good grunt
to pull the boat out of the water, but it still isn't under a hard
strain.

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"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Jun 3, 5:12 am, hk wrote:
On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:

That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?

Until I get tired of it.

I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21'
Parker in 2008.

Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21?

I could never find anyone to go boating with me, and I didn't have the skill
or experience to dock a 25'er on my own.

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On 6/3/10 1:42 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 3, 10:21 am, wrote:
On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:





On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote:
On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote:
On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote:
On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:

That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?

Until I get tired of it.

I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21'
Parker in 2008.

Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21?

In no particular order:

While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or
dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are
three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat.

Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far
forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of the
boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther back, on
the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming
through chop.

I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour
plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open
center console.

The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the
larger Parker burned.

I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat
took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself.

Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft.
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that
you explained it, I can understand why.

23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.

If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee.

My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that
stout.

i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than
what I'm used to dealing with.

It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.

Well what was your tow vehicle? 3-1/2 tons of boat on a slope would
take a pretty good truckand brakes I would think to hold the thing.



4WD Toyotas.

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hk wrote:
On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:
That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?


Until I get tired of it.

I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21'
Parker in 2008.

25 hours per year? That's sad.

Remember Governor Macaca?
 

hk wrote:
On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote:
On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:





On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote:
On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote:
On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:

That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating
adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?

Until I get tired of it.

I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21'
Parker in 2008.

Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21?

In no particular order:

While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a challenging or
dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are
three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat.

Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far
forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part of
the
boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther
back, on
the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming
through chop.

I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour
plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open
center console.

The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the
larger Parker burned.

I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat
took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself.

Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft.
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that
you explained it, I can understand why.

23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.

If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a
mod vee.


My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that
stout.


i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than
what I'm used to dealing with.


It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.

Make a friend and you won't have to launch and boat alone. I've never
boated by myself in any of my boats. Having friends aboard is half the fun!

Remember Governor Macaca?
 

YukonBound wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
...
On 6/3/10 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 3, 7:05 am, wrote:
On 6/3/10 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:





On Jun 3, 6:53 am, wrote:
On 6/3/10 7:38 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jun 3, 5:12 am, wrote:
On 6/2/10 11:39 PM, Tim wrote:

That's profound, Harry, Now tell us about your next boating
adventure.
You have your other Parker for a long time,t hen traded for a
different one. how long to you plan to keep this one?

Until I get tired of it.

I had the 25' Parker from 2003 to 2008, and bought the present 21'
Parker in 2008.

Just out of curiosity, why did you down size from a 25 to a 21?

In no particular order:

While Chesapeake Bay can get mighty choppy, it isn't a
challenging or
dangerous body of water, and I tend not to go out when the waves are
three feet high or larger, so I didn't need a big fishing boat.

Because the usual seating position in a pilothouse boat is so far
forward, in a hard chop you feel it because you are in the part
of the
boat that is pounding. On my 21 footer the seating is farther
back, on
the part of the boat that does not leave the water while slamming
through chop.

I always scrub out the entire boat after using it. That took an hour
plus on the 25 footer, and only takes about 20 minutes on the open
center console.

The 21-footer burns about half the gas per hour at cruise that the
larger Parker burned.

I can launch and retrieve the 21-footer in my sleep. The larger boat
took a lot more effort, even though I could do it by myself.

Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft.
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that
you explained it, I can understand why.

23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have
a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.

If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a
mod vee.


My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that
stout.


i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than
what I'm used to dealing with.


It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.


Yup...a good ramp makes all the difference (with the proper tow vehicle).
Yep. 4WD! I have seen to many bozos smoke the hell out of their
tires. Even SUV's and pickup trucks with two wheel drive.

Remember Governor Macaca?
 

In article ,
says...

My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that
stout.


i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than
what I'm used to dealing with.


It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.


Yup...a good ramp makes all the difference (with the proper tow vehicle).


Except they don't make a V24 Rav4 do they Don?

Remember Governor Macaca?
 

In article ,
says...



Yeah, I can see the advantages because the 25 wasn't a mere 4 ft.
longer. It was dimensionally a lot bigger boat all around. Now that
you explained it, I can understand why.

23 is as big as I'll go on a V-bottom for that reason. I did have a 27
and for one to launch it wasn't easy . not easy at all.


If you added in the swim platform and pulpit, the 25' Parker was about
32' long overall, and 9'6" wide, amidships, and fully found, weighed
over 7000 pounds. Also, the 21-footer is a deep vee; the 25 was a mod vee.

How long is your lobster boat, overall?


He doesn't give out that information to anyone. But I suspect it is in
the range of 36" to 40" LOA.

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On 6/4/10 7:04 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

My old Chris Craft cavalier was right at 30 ft with the swim platform.
Thatn's not counting the bow railing thart hung about 2 feet forward
of the bow, though. and my marquis doesn't have a pulpit but with the
swim platform it comes out to about 26 ft. I dont' knwo what the
wieght it. It's heavy for what it is, but I don't think it's that
stout.


i can see that launching a 3-1/2 ton craft could be a bit testy for
one person. Man, that's a lot of weight! Or at least a lot more than
what I'm used to dealing with.


It wasn't bad, actually, at my local marina. Good steep paved concret
ramps, pretty much sheltered from the wind, and full length piers
adjacent. But the 21-footer is easier.


Yup...a good ramp makes all the difference (with the proper tow vehicle).


Except they don't make a V24 Rav4 do they Don?

I forgot...just what make and model of boat do you currently own, Bertie?

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