On Apr 28, 12:19*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message

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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is
running, then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep
running. If that's the case, then it seems like you should be able to
start a diesel by hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage. So, in
the former case, even if your battery died - perhaps got wet and shorted
out - then the engine would keep running. In the latter situation if the
battery was already dead, you might be able to crank it to start it.

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Nom=de=Plume

In the old days you could do just that. *Any modern diesel has electronic
controls.

I guess you're unable to understand what I wrote. Did I mention recently
that you're an idiot?

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Nom=de=Plume

D'Plume. I take it you are too daft to understand that Bill is correct
and that you throw the word "idiot" around too loosly?

However, to give you the benefit of the doubt, If the engine is small
and primitive enough in design, this was of a standard norm. One would
first trigger the compression release, and crank-spin the crankshaft
vigorously, then trip the compression release and it should run.

But modern designed diesels are equipped with computerized,
electronic fuel injection and do require electricity to operate the
injection controls.

"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Apr 28, 12:19 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message

m...





"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is
running, then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep
running. If that's the case, then it seems like you should be able to
start a diesel by hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage. So, in
the former case, even if your battery died - perhaps got wet and shorted
out - then the engine would keep running. In the latter situation if the
battery was already dead, you might be able to crank it to start it.

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Nom=de=Plume

In the old days you could do just that. Any modern diesel has electronic
controls.

I guess you're unable to understand what I wrote. Did I mention recently
that you're an idiot?

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Nom=de=Plume

D'Plume. I take it you are too daft to understand that Bill is correct
and that you throw the word "idiot" around too loosly?

Firstly, I didn't specifically mention "modern" diesels, but in any case, he
didn't address the other part of the question. He's claims he so brilliant,
but obviously idiot is apropos.

However, to give you the benefit of the doubt, If the engine is small
and primitive enough in design, this was of a standard norm. One would
first trigger the compression release, and crank-spin the crankshaft
vigorously, then trip the compression release and it should run.

Yes, I read about the compression gate.

But modern designed diesels are equipped with computerized,
electronic fuel injection and do require electricity to operate the
injection controls.

See my response on this to jps.

Thanks for being marginally civil.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:33:34 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Firstly, I didn't specifically mention "modern" diesels, but in any case, he
didn't address the other part of the question. He's claims he so brilliant,
but obviously idiot is apropos.

Frankly your attitude is deplorable. You come here, obviously knowing
very little, reasonable people offer you reasonable answers, and you
call them idiots.

Give me a few good reasons why we should waste further time with you.

I ask this because I can't think of any at the moment.

Go away and reconsider.

You are either trolling or have a total lack of knowledge combined
with a personality disorder. If the latter, this group already has
enough to go around.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:33:34 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Firstly, I didn't specifically mention "modern" diesels, but in any case,
he
didn't address the other part of the question. He's claims he so
brilliant,
but obviously idiot is apropos.

Frankly your attitude is deplorable. You come here, obviously knowing
very little, reasonable people offer you reasonable answers, and you
call them idiots.

Poor you. Sorry Wayne, but I'm allowed to ask questions. If you don't like
that, you can go suck an egg. Or, you can ignore me. Frankly, your attitude
is bizarre. I asked a legitimate and intelligent question, and you and a
couple of other people answered it. Even Topper mostly answered it.

Give me a few good reasons why we should waste further time with you.

I ask this because I can't think of any at the moment.

Not my problem. Sounds like yours.

Go away and reconsider.

You go away. I'm here. Too bad if you don't like it.

You are either trolling or have a total lack of knowledge combined
with a personality disorder. If the latter, this group already has
enough to go around.

Poor baby.

On 4/28/2010 11:01 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:33:34 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Firstly, I didn't specifically mention "modern" diesels, but in any case,
he
didn't address the other part of the question. He's claims he so
brilliant,
but obviously idiot is apropos.

Frankly your attitude is deplorable. You come here, obviously knowing
very little, reasonable people offer you reasonable answers, and you
call them idiots.

Poor you. Sorry Wayne, but I'm allowed to ask questions. If you don't like
that, you can go suck an egg. Or, you can ignore me. Frankly, your attitude
is bizarre. I asked a legitimate and intelligent question, and you and a
couple of other people answered it. Even Topper mostly answered it.

Give me a few good reasons why we should waste further time with you.

I ask this because I can't think of any at the moment.

Not my problem. Sounds like yours.

Go away and reconsider.

You go away. I'm here. Too bad if you don't like it.

You are either trolling or have a total lack of knowledge combined
with a personality disorder. If the latter, this group already has
enough to go around.

Poor baby.


What's this "poor baby" ****. You have too much time on your hands. Go
knit a quilt or play with your dolls or something. Leave us alone.

"anon-e-moose" wrote in message
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On 4/28/2010 11:01 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:33:34 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Firstly, I didn't specifically mention "modern" diesels, but in any
case,
he
didn't address the other part of the question. He's claims he so
brilliant,
but obviously idiot is apropos.

Frankly your attitude is deplorable. You come here, obviously knowing
very little, reasonable people offer you reasonable answers, and you
call them idiots.

Poor you. Sorry Wayne, but I'm allowed to ask questions. If you don't
like
that, you can go suck an egg. Or, you can ignore me. Frankly, your
attitude
is bizarre. I asked a legitimate and intelligent question, and you and a
couple of other people answered it. Even Topper mostly answered it.

Give me a few good reasons why we should waste further time with you.

I ask this because I can't think of any at the moment.

Not my problem. Sounds like yours.

Go away and reconsider.

You go away. I'm here. Too bad if you don't like it.

You are either trolling or have a total lack of knowledge combined
with a personality disorder. If the latter, this group already has
enough to go around.

Poor baby.


What's this "poor baby" ****. You have too much time on your hands. Go
knit a quilt or play with your dolls or something. Leave us alone.


You sound like an angry child... leave me alone, leave me alone... well,
take your marbles, if you have any, and leave.

On 4/29/2010 12:03 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On 4/28/2010 11:01 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:33:34 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Firstly, I didn't specifically mention "modern" diesels, but in any
case,
he
didn't address the other part of the question. He's claims he so
brilliant,
but obviously idiot is apropos.

Frankly your attitude is deplorable. You come here, obviously knowing
very little, reasonable people offer you reasonable answers, and you
call them idiots.

Poor you. Sorry Wayne, but I'm allowed to ask questions. If you don't
like
that, you can go suck an egg. Or, you can ignore me. Frankly, your
attitude
is bizarre. I asked a legitimate and intelligent question, and you and a
couple of other people answered it. Even Topper mostly answered it.

Give me a few good reasons why we should waste further time with you.

I ask this because I can't think of any at the moment.

Not my problem. Sounds like yours.

Go away and reconsider.

You go away. I'm here. Too bad if you don't like it.

You are either trolling or have a total lack of knowledge combined
with a personality disorder. If the latter, this group already has
enough to go around.

Poor baby.


What's this "poor baby" ****. You have too much time on your hands. Go
knit a quilt or play with your dolls or something. Leave us alone.


You sound like an angry child... leave me alone, leave me alone... well,
take your marbles, if you have any, and leave.


In your dreams.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:33:34 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Firstly, I didn't specifically mention "modern" diesels, but in any case, he
didn't address the other part of the question. He's claims he so brilliant,
but obviously idiot is apropos.

Frankly your attitude is deplorable. You come here, obviously knowing
very little, reasonable people offer you reasonable answers, and you
call them idiots.

Give me a few good reasons why we should waste further time with you.

I ask this because I can't think of any at the moment.

Go away and reconsider.

You are either trolling or have a total lack of knowledge combined
with a personality disorder. If the latter, this group already has
enough to go around.

Another good observation!