On Apr 16, 7:41*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:39:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Apr 16, 4:18*pm, John H wrote:
It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers, unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 *Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

When I first got my 18'r four years ago, I parked it outside and took
a 10 ft sheet of plywood, *and set it on the lip of the windshield and
the back of the i/o engine cover, then put a large cheap, silver , non-
UV collecting tarp over it and used a handful of black rubber straps
to hold it in place from the eye holes to the trailer frame. , nothing
of extreme tightness, and the board did a good job of covering with no
snow/rain/ice building up because there were no pockets being formed.
In the spring, I hosed off the tarp, let it dry, unhooked everything,
folded it up and all was good. The tarp was loose enough that it
wouldn't catch a sharp corner and rip, yet it *let plenty of
ventilation flow through the boat, and was firm enough to stay in
place. and not blow away.

No, I am *not* going to cover my boat with a 10' sheet of plywood and a tarp.
Hell, I'd get laughed out of my marina!
--
John H

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Awwww John. In my case I leave the cover off year around now that I
store it inside unless I'm on the lake. Sure it's a tacky way of
doing things, but it was totally functional. My wife doesn't cater to
tha theory though, she thinks all things (except me) need to look
"pretty and prissy" But I remind her about boating. "We're going
where fish poop. Not to a gala outing at the Yacht club"

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:51:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Apr 16, 7:41*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:39:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Apr 16, 4:18*pm, John H wrote:
It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers, unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 *Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

When I first got my 18'r four years ago, I parked it outside and took
a 10 ft sheet of plywood, *and set it on the lip of the windshield and
the back of the i/o engine cover, then put a large cheap, silver , non-
UV collecting tarp over it and used a handful of black rubber straps
to hold it in place from the eye holes to the trailer frame. , nothing
of extreme tightness, and the board did a good job of covering with no
snow/rain/ice building up because there were no pockets being formed.
In the spring, I hosed off the tarp, let it dry, unhooked everything,
folded it up and all was good. The tarp was loose enough that it
wouldn't catch a sharp corner and rip, yet it *let plenty of
ventilation flow through the boat, and was firm enough to stay in
place. and not blow away.

No, I am *not* going to cover my boat with a 10' sheet of plywood and a tarp.
Hell, I'd get laughed out of my marina!
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Awwww John. In my case I leave the cover off year around now that I
store it inside unless I'm on the lake. Sure it's a tacky way of
doing things, but it was totally functional. My wife doesn't cater to
tha theory though, she thinks all things (except me) need to look
"pretty and prissy" But I remind her about boating. "We're going
where fish poop. Not to a gala outing at the Yacht club"

Here's an idea for you. The last time I took my grandkids out, they all wanted
to help when I started cleaning the boat upon our return.

I'll bet you could get all those nieces and nephews to do a lot of work on that
monstrosity if you presented it properly!
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

On Apr 17, 7:09*pm, John H wrote:
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:51:56 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Apr 16, 7:41*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:39:53 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Apr 16, 4:18*pm, John H wrote:
It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers, unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 *Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

When I first got my 18'r four years ago, I parked it outside and took
a 10 ft sheet of plywood, *and set it on the lip of the windshield and
the back of the i/o engine cover, then put a large cheap, silver , non-
UV collecting tarp over it and used a handful of black rubber straps
to hold it in place from the eye holes to the trailer frame. , nothing
of extreme tightness, and the board did a good job of covering with no
snow/rain/ice building up because there were no pockets being formed.
In the spring, I hosed off the tarp, let it dry, unhooked everything,
folded it up and all was good. The tarp was loose enough that it
wouldn't catch a sharp corner and rip, yet it *let plenty of
ventilation flow through the boat, and was firm enough to stay in
place. and not blow away.

No, I am *not* going to cover my boat with a 10' sheet of plywood and a tarp.
Hell, I'd get laughed out of my marina!
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Awwww John. *In my case I leave the cover off year around now that I
store it inside unless I'm on the lake. *Sure it's a tacky way of
doing things, but it was totally functional. My wife doesn't cater to
tha theory though, she thinks all things (except me) need to look
"pretty and prissy" * But I remind her about boating. "We're going
where fish poop. Not to a gala outing at the Yacht club"

Here's an idea for you. The last time I took my grandkids out, they all wanted
to help when I started cleaning the boat upon our return.

I'll bet you could get all those nieces and nephews to do a lot of work on that
monstrosity if you presented it properly!
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Now THAT' s an idea! Like, clean it up and tomorrow we go...

John H wrote:
It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers, unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for towing!

"Larry" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a little
when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an adjustible
support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to hold it in
place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store it in snow.
And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for $230.

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:22:24 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
m...
John H wrote:
It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a little
when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an adjustible
support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to hold it in
place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store it in snow.
And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for $230.


I use a support pole also. And, I run a line from the bow, over the console, to
the stern, which provides a tent type structure. Works well.

Like you, I'm not going to risk it in the snow again, although I think I'd be
much better off with these straps than I was with the bungees.

I keep waiting for Harry to tell me who the guy is that did his boat for $8 a
foot or so. Hell, if the guy is good, you'd think Harry would turn some business
his way.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"Larry" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a
little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for
towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an
adjustible support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to
hold it in place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store it
in snow. And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for
$230.

I went over to the lumber store and bought a 12' length and an 8' length of
2"x4" to build a ridge pole to support my cover.
Because our snow load can be heavy at times, i also bought a couple lengths
of 1"x6" board to run down fron the ridge pole to the gunnels.
Seems to work ok.

Don White wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...

John H wrote:

It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a
little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for
towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an
adjustible support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to
hold it in place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store it
in snow. And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for
$230.

I went over to the lumber store and bought a 12' length and an 8' length of
2"x4" to build a ridge pole to support my cover.
Because our snow load can be heavy at times, i also bought a couple lengths
of 1"x6" board to run down fron the ridge pole to the gunnels.
Seems to work ok.



1-1/2" or 2" PVC also works well. It lasts longer, is lighter, and
bends better than wood. It is also less abrasive on the cover since
there are no splinters. If you are adventurous, you can install some
fittings to customize it even further.

Larry

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:56:18 -0400, Larry wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...

John H wrote:

It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a
little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for
towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an
adjustible support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to
hold it in place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store it
in snow. And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for
$230.

I went over to the lumber store and bought a 12' length and an 8' length of
2"x4" to build a ridge pole to support my cover.
Because our snow load can be heavy at times, i also bought a couple lengths
of 1"x6" board to run down fron the ridge pole to the gunnels.
Seems to work ok.



1-1/2" or 2" PVC also works well. It lasts longer, is lighter, and
bends better than wood. It is also less abrasive on the cover since
there are no splinters. If you are adventurous, you can install some
fittings to customize it even further.

Larry

That is a great idea. For a very few bucks, one could build a ridge pole that
would screw apart and fit the boat properly.

I like it. Might give it a shot.

Thanks.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...

John H wrote:

It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a
little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight
of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is
helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a
tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for
towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an
adjustible support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to
hold it in place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store
it
in snow. And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for
$230.

I went over to the lumber store and bought a 12' length and an 8' length
of
2"x4" to build a ridge pole to support my cover.
Because our snow load can be heavy at times, i also bought a couple
lengths
of 1"x6" board to run down fron the ridge pole to the gunnels.
Seems to work ok.



1-1/2" or 2" PVC also works well. It lasts longer, is lighter, and bends
better than wood. It is also less abrasive on the cover since there are
no splinters. If you are adventurous, you can install some fittings to
customize it even further.

Larry

Did all that with the Sandpiper 565. That framework went with the sailboat
when I sold it in 2007