"Larry" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a little
when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an adjustible
support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to hold it in
place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store it in snow.
And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for $230.

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:22:24 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
m...
John H wrote:
It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a little
when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an adjustible
support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to hold it in
place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store it in snow.
And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for $230.


I use a support pole also. And, I run a line from the bow, over the console, to
the stern, which provides a tent type structure. Works well.

Like you, I'm not going to risk it in the snow again, although I think I'd be
much better off with these straps than I was with the bungees.

I keep waiting for Harry to tell me who the guy is that did his boat for $8 a
foot or so. Hell, if the guy is good, you'd think Harry would turn some business
his way.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"Larry" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a
little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for
towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an
adjustible support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to
hold it in place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store it
in snow. And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for
$230.

I went over to the lumber store and bought a 12' length and an 8' length of
2"x4" to build a ridge pole to support my cover.
Because our snow load can be heavy at times, i also bought a couple lengths
of 1"x6" board to run down fron the ridge pole to the gunnels.
Seems to work ok.

Don White wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...

John H wrote:

It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a
little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for
towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an
adjustible support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to
hold it in place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store it
in snow. And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for
$230.

I went over to the lumber store and bought a 12' length and an 8' length of
2"x4" to build a ridge pole to support my cover.
Because our snow load can be heavy at times, i also bought a couple lengths
of 1"x6" board to run down fron the ridge pole to the gunnels.
Seems to work ok.



1-1/2" or 2" PVC also works well. It lasts longer, is lighter, and
bends better than wood. It is also less abrasive on the cover since
there are no splinters. If you are adventurous, you can install some
fittings to customize it even further.

Larry

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:56:18 -0400, Larry wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...

John H wrote:

It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a
little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for
towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an
adjustible support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to
hold it in place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store it
in snow. And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for
$230.

I went over to the lumber store and bought a 12' length and an 8' length of
2"x4" to build a ridge pole to support my cover.
Because our snow load can be heavy at times, i also bought a couple lengths
of 1"x6" board to run down fron the ridge pole to the gunnels.
Seems to work ok.



1-1/2" or 2" PVC also works well. It lasts longer, is lighter, and
bends better than wood. It is also less abrasive on the cover since
there are no splinters. If you are adventurous, you can install some
fittings to customize it even further.

Larry

That is a great idea. For a very few bucks, one could build a ridge pole that
would screw apart and fit the boat properly.

I like it. Might give it a shot.

Thanks.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...

wrote in message
...

John H wrote:

It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a
little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight
of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is
helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a
tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for
towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an
adjustible support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to
hold it in place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store
it
in snow. And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for
$230.

I went over to the lumber store and bought a 12' length and an 8' length
of
2"x4" to build a ridge pole to support my cover.
Because our snow load can be heavy at times, i also bought a couple
lengths
of 1"x6" board to run down fron the ridge pole to the gunnels.
Seems to work ok.



1-1/2" or 2" PVC also works well. It lasts longer, is lighter, and bends
better than wood. It is also less abrasive on the cover since there are
no splinters. If you are adventurous, you can install some fittings to
customize it even further.

Larry

Did all that with the Sandpiper 565. That framework went with the sailboat
when I sold it in 2007

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"Larry" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a
little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight
of more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is
helping this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for
towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an
adjustible support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to
hold it in place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store
it in snow. And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage
for $230.

I went over to the lumber store and bought a 12' length and an 8' length
of 2"x4" to build a ridge pole to support my cover.
Because our snow load can be heavy at times, i also bought a couple
lengths of 1"x6" board to run down fron the ridge pole to the gunnels.
Seems to work ok.


Why the hell would you live where it snows that much?

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"Larry" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a
little when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight
of more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is
helping this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a
tie down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for
towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an
adjustible support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to
hold it in place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store
it in snow. And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage
for $230.

I went over to the lumber store and bought a 12' length and an 8' length
of 2"x4" to build a ridge pole to support my cover.
Because our snow load can be heavy at times, i also bought a couple
lengths of 1"x6" board to run down fron the ridge pole to the gunnels.
Seems to work ok.


Why the hell would you live where it snows that much?

What's wrong with a bit of snow?
Provides good exercise in the boating offseason.

Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message
...

John H wrote:

It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a little
when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an adjustible
support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to hold it in
place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store it in snow.
And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for $230.



Snaps are great for aluminum boats when they work. Replacing them is a
PITA and if the cover shrinks it makes it more difficult to get all of
the snaps to work properly. Here's a tip: A buddy of mine had snaps on
his boat and used candle wax to protect them and make them easier to
snap on and remove.

Larry

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message
...

John H wrote:

It is my belief that bungee cords should not be used with boat covers,
unless
the boat cover is of the 'throwaway' variety.

Bungee cords stretch, and they will often allow the cover to sag a
little
when
it begins raining or snow. Once the cover sags just a bit, the weight
of
more
water or snow will cause it to sag even more. The bungee cord is
helping
this
process because it is stretching to accomodate the extra weight.

When I got my new cover, I followed the maker's advice and bought a tie
down kit
to go with it. The kit is only $22.59 Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Carver-Boat-Co.../dp/B0000AYI62

"Constructed Of 1" Black Polypropylene Webbing And Convenient Quick
Release
Buckles."

The kits contain 12 straps, each 8' long.

The final product looks like this:


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover001.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...atCover002.jpg
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


Nice rig! That's a great way to tie it down. Bungees are not for
towing!

My cover snaps on, is also good for trailering. But there is an
adjustible
support pole in the middle that goes to a reinforced snap to hold it in
place. Allows all the rainwater to run off. I do not store it in snow.
And the rest of the time, it is in a Costco Portable garage for $230.



Snaps are great for aluminum boats when they work. Replacing them is a
PITA and if the cover shrinks it makes it more difficult to get all of the
snaps to work properly. Here's a tip: A buddy of mine had snaps on his
boat and used candle wax to protect them and make them easier to snap on
and remove.

Larry

As long as you leave the cover snapped between trips, is not a problem with
the shrinkage. Candle was can be good or bad. I candle waxed mine and took
a year and a lot of wiping before some of mine would stay snapped. :)
My cover is Topgun fabric and the first cover lasted about 12 years. 2nd
cover lasted 10 days, before someone swiped it.