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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a lot of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be running the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.


There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong direction,
too weak or too strong.


I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting in a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really that bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for this at
the
boat show.



Did you see sea anchors?


Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.


If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
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Sometimes, close to a lee shore in strong wind, the safest thing to do
is to take the sails down and use the engine to get further out.

I prefer to leave up a deeply reefed mainsail to maintain directional
control and assist with keeping the bow into the wind. Without that
the wind will pick up the bow on every wavetop and push it back to
leeward.


I'm hoping that this stuff is going to be covered when I take the lessons.


Why did you argue that you didn't have a lot to learn?

Before you take your lessons, you might want to charter a sailboat with
an experienced captain. You will learn a lot but, more importantly, you
will know quickly if sailing is for you.

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
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Sometimes, close to a lee shore in strong wind, the safest thing to do
is to take the sails down and use the engine to get further out.

I prefer to leave up a deeply reefed mainsail to maintain directional
control and assist with keeping the bow into the wind. Without that
the wind will pick up the bow on every wavetop and push it back to
leeward.


I'm hoping that this stuff is going to be covered when I take the
lessons.


Why did you argue that you didn't have a lot to learn?

Where did you get that? I never said that.

Before you take your lessons, you might want to charter a sailboat with an
experienced captain. You will learn a lot but, more importantly, you will
know quickly if sailing is for you.

My friend is an experienced captain. I've been sailing many times, though
many not recently. Try to keep up.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.


There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong direction,
too weak or too strong.


I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting in a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for this
at
the
boat show.



Did you see sea anchors?


Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.


If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.


So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was told.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.



There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong direction,
too weak or too strong.



I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting in a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for this
at
the
boat show.




Did you see sea anchors?


Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.



If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.


So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was told.


When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.



There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.



I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for this
at
the
boat show.




Did you see sea anchors?


Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.



If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.


So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was told.


When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.


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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.




There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.




I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for this
at
the
boat show.





Did you see sea anchors?



Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.




If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.


So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was told.



When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.



No you didn't. If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses
that you did. Nice try, but you lied.

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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be
running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.




There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.




I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting
in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really
that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for
this
at
the
boat show.





Did you see sea anchors?



Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.




If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.


So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was told.



When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.



No you didn't. If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses that
you did. Nice try, but you lied.


Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be
running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.





There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.





I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time sitting
in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really
that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for
this
at
the
boat show.






Did you see sea anchors?




Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.





If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.



So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was told.




When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.




No you didn't. If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses that
you did. Nice try, but you lied.


Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.


"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the proper
term. I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote
it in this thread.

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On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:46:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Seems like unless you're close to shore, you really don't need
a
lot
of
engine power. Maybe in a storm, but wouldn't the concern be
running
the
engine without intake water or running out of fuel if you run
it
too
long?
I'm mean that's why it's a sailboat... to sail.





There are two times when you need power on a sailboat: Bad
weather
and
good weather.

Most cruising sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
underway
with the engine running. Either the wind is from the wrong
direction,
too weak or too strong.





I thought most sailboats spend more than 90% of their time
sitting
in
a
berth or anchored. :)

Why would you need to run the engine offshore when there's lots
of
wind?
Seems like it wouldn't help that much. I can understand needing
to
get
away
from a shoreline, but in the middle of an ocean? If it's really
that
bad,
wouldn't you want to try and slow the boat? I saw parachutes for
this
at
the
boat show.






Did you see sea anchors?




Didn't see them, but certainly heard about them.





If you saw parachutes to slow a boat you saw sea anchors.



So, a drogue is never called a sea anchor? That's not what I was
told.




When did you ever use that word? Parachute was your choice and you
were
corrected by other people than me.

Google first - not later.


I also used the word drogue. Yes, you're an ass.




No you didn't. If you had, you wouldn't have received the responses
that
you did. Nice try, but you lied.


Wrong again bozo. This is what I said:

"I think so... it was call paratech or something like that. Then, there
was
a
drogue that hangs off the back. So, I guess you can either point into the
wind or slow down going down wind."

So, who's the liar? Not you. You're just an idiot.


"I saw parachutes for this at the boat show".

If you added anything else it was after you were schooled on the proper
term. I don't read every post you type and you certainly didn't quote it
in this thread.

As I said, you're a liar. Oh wait... you're just an idiot.