On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 07:24:09 -0400, "Robert Scott"
wrote:


"Harold Burton" wrote in message
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In article , Robert
Scott wrote:

Is RBP still alive? I haven't been here in a long time...


That's why it's not on . . . people who haven't been here in a long
time.

Sad.


OK... if I apologize for killing RBP, can I ask another question?

I sometimes struggle a bit to get my new Pungo 140 loaded onto my roof rack
(Thule crossbars and Yakima "Land Shark" kayak pads.) I've been eyeballing
that Yakima Outrigger rod that slides out of the forward crossbar and allows
you to put the boat up one end at a time. I've never seen one in use and
don't know anyone who has one. Is it an effective and handy loading aid or
just a clever gimmick?

Thanks for any info,
desmobob

I'm a gimp and used to use a hand trailer-type boat winch and v-shaped
rollers to get my boat up. I can crank and paddle OK but my legs
really suck.

I sometimes struggle a bit to get my new Pungo 140 loaded onto my roof
rack
(Thule crossbars and Yakima "Land Shark" kayak pads.) I've been
eyeballing
that Yakima Outrigger rod that slides out of the forward crossbar and
allows
you to put the boat up one end at a time. I've never seen one in use and
don't know anyone who has one. Is it an effective and handy loading aid
or
just a clever gimmick?

Thanks for any info,
desmobob


I'm a gimp and used to use a hand trailer-type boat winch and v-shaped
rollers to get my boat up. I can crank and paddle OK but my legs
really suck.


I like the winch and roller idea, but with the trailer still attachedto
them. :-) I'm looking into the trailering option for the future. I have
a particular liking for this one that I could use as a canoe and kayak
hauler AND a utility trailer:
http://www.slickrydr.com/ProductLine...5/Default.aspx

Good paddling,
desmobob

"John Kuthe" wrote in message
...

I sometimes struggle a bit to get my new Pungo 140 loaded onto my roof
rack
(Thule crossbars and Yakima "Land Shark" kayak pads.) I've been eyeballing
that Yakima Outrigger rod that slides out of the forward crossbar and
allows
you to put the boat up one end at a time. I've never seen one in use and
don't know anyone who has one. Is it an effective and handy loading aid or
just a clever gimmick?

Thanks for any info,
desmobob

I used to work at an outdoor sports shop, and I have first hand
experience at using them. They ROCK! You just pull the Outrigger out,
get one end of your boat up on it, lift the other end of your boat and
plop it up on the racks, and viola! Then put the Outrigger back in,
get the pads under your boat, tie off and you're on your way.

John Kuthe...



Thanks for the info, John. As much as I hate the thought of spending $70
for a short piece of metal, I'll probably go ahead and do it.

Good paddling,
desmobob

On Apr 18, 7:20*pm, "Robert Scott" wrote:
"John Kuthe" wrote in message

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I sometimes struggle a bit to get my new Pungo 140 loaded onto my roof
rack
(Thule crossbars and Yakima "Land Shark" kayak pads.) I've been eyeballing
that Yakima Outrigger rod that slides out of the forward crossbar and
allows
you to put the boat up one end at a time. I've never seen one in use and
don't know anyone who has one. Is it an effective and handy loading aid or
just a clever gimmick?

Thanks for any info,
desmobob

I used to work at an outdoor sports shop, and I have first hand
experience at using them. They ROCK! You just pull the Outrigger out,
get one end of your boat up on it, lift the other end of your boat and
plop it up on the racks, and viola! Then put the Outrigger back in,
get the pads under your boat, tie off and you're on your way.

John Kuthe...

Thanks for the info, John. *As much as I hate the thought of spending $70
for a short piece of metal, I'll probably go ahead and do it.

Good paddling,
desmobob

Yeah, Yakima stuff is overpriced, that's for sure. But it is good
equipment.

I still have my original Yakima Kayak Stackers I bought for $40 for
the pair of them. A fair price, I thought. Today I doubt you can get a
pair of Kayak Stackers for much under $100, and they are not even as
good as the originals, which rock in their simplicity of design. I
treasure mine, especially since you can't get them anymore.

John Kuthe...

I also favor the putting one end of the boat on and then lifting the
other, especially with canoes. The "clean and jerk" from my younger
days has disappeared. I have even loaded canoes from the back end of
the rack on my truck like a Hully Roller and "walked" it up the back
bar until it was on. The only easier way was to talk someone into
loading it for you

jaybird

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Per Robert Scott:
I like the winch and roller idea, but with the trailer still attachedto
them. :-) I'm looking into the trailering option for the future. I have
a particular liking for this one that I could use as a canoe and kayak
hauler AND a utility trailer:
http://www.slickrydr.com/ProductLine...5/Default.aspx

Trailers continue to call out to me. I've even got a small
collection of photos that I take every time I see an interesting
trailer.

But, as a windsurfer for 20+ years, I keep seeing people migrate
from a trailer (sometimes a quite elegant trailer...) to a
vehicle that can carry everything by itself.

Turnpike fees have tb one factor: around here a 200-lb trailer
pays the same as a fully-loaded 18-wheeler on the Atlantic City
Expressway.

Parking might be another.

But a trailer is calling out again to me since I've started
looking for a replacement for my Suburban (roof rusting
through..) and Toyota's FJ Cruiser is on my short list.
--
PeteCresswell

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:13:50 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Per Robert Scott:
I like the winch and roller idea, but with the trailer still attachedto
them. :-) I'm looking into the trailering option for the future. I have
a particular liking for this one that I could use as a canoe and kayak
hauler AND a utility trailer:
http://www.slickrydr.com/ProductLine...5/Default.aspx

Trailers continue to call out to me. I've even got a small
collection of photos that I take every time I see an interesting
trailer.

But, as a windsurfer for 20+ years, I keep seeing people migrate
from a trailer (sometimes a quite elegant trailer...) to a
vehicle that can carry everything by itself.

Turnpike fees have tb one factor: around here a 200-lb trailer
pays the same as a fully-loaded 18-wheeler on the Atlantic City
Expressway.

Parking might be another.

But a trailer is calling out again to me since I've started
looking for a replacement for my Suburban (roof rusting
through..) and Toyota's FJ Cruiser is on my short list.

I finally got a Chevy van, took the front passenger seat out, and now
I carry the kayak inside the van, plus, I have to lift it less than a
meter to get it in now.

Harold Burton wrote:
In article , Robert
Scott wrote:

Is RBP still alive? I haven't been here in a long time...


That's why it's not on . . . people who haven't been here in a long
time.

Sad.

I still have it on my reader. A lot of ISP's no longer support usenet directly, forcing everyone to Google Groups for free reading.
I use Giganews and pay the small monthly fee. Most of my usenet reading is in the groups associated with my profession.
Otherwise, I have moved mostly to Yahoo groups. Since most of my rafting is in the western US, I subscribe to Utah Rafters, and the
Grand Canyon Private Boaters Association.

Times change though. I have accumulated a bunch of rafting gear and really should start to find a new home for it. We ran the
Colorado River in the Grand Canyon last year and that sort of was the ultimate trip. Time to move on to new adventures. We would
keep enough stuff to still be able to run Desolation Canyon in Utah every year. After having done September trip there, I would
gladly trade the lower water for the better weather.

Blakely

--
Blakely LaCroix
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

"The best adventure is yet to come"

On Apr 20, 10:42*am, RailTramp wrote:
Harold Burton wrote:
In article , Robert
Scott wrote:

Is RBP still alive? I haven't been here in a long time...

That's why it's not on . . . people who haven't been here in a long
time.

Sad.

I still have it on my reader. *A lot of ISP's no longer support usenet directly, forcing everyone to Google Groups for free reading.
* I use Giganews and pay the small monthly fee. *Most of my usenet reading is in the groups associated with my profession.
Otherwise, I have moved mostly to Yahoo groups. *Since most of my rafting is in the western US, I subscribe to Utah Rafters, and the
Grand Canyon Private Boaters Association.

Times change though. *I have accumulated a bunch of rafting gear and really should start to find a new home for it. We ran the
Colorado River in the Grand Canyon last year and that sort of was the ultimate trip. Time to move on to new adventures. We would
keep enough stuff to still be able to run Desolation Canyon in Utah every year. *After having done September trip there, I would
gladly trade the lower water for the better weather.

Blakely

--
Blakely LaCroix
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

"The best adventure is yet to come"

My problem with trailers is what do you do with it when it's not
behind the car. I don't have acres of driveway or spare space in the
garage. Perhaps a folding tailer might work.
Roger
http://www.virginiarowing.com

On 4/11/2010 5:47 PM, Robert Scott wrote:
Can any of you recommend a good reference book or two? I'm particularly
fond of Bill Mason's "Path of the Paddle" as a canoeing reference. Is there
a similar work in print for kayakers?

You don't want Tom Foster's book, good as it is, for the paddling you're
going to do in a Pungo. Here's a short list of my favorites.

The Complete Sea Kayaker's Handbook, Shelley Johnson
Sea Kayaking Illustrated : A Visual Guide to Better Paddling, John Robison
Paddle Your Own Kayak: An Illustrated Guide to the Art of Kayaking, Gary
McGuffin and Joanie McGuffin

I think all of these are really good. The McGuffin book is especially
gorgeous to look at.

Steve