"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 10/04/2010 1:11 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 10/04/2010 11:10 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:42:51 -0600,
wrote:

On 09/04/2010 11:33 PM, wrote:

Is that $125k plus as some here say or is it less?

Depends on how you manage money. I have seen people live middle class
at $50k and others broke at $125K.

There is more to being middle class than what you make. It is also
about attitude and self dicipline.

I agree with that. The most "broke" people I know make over $100k but
they spend borrowed money like they make a million.

Yep. My little sister is like that. When life was good with two good
jobs they leveraged up to the 9's. We told them, now is the time to
solidify that wealth and pay off debt, not create more of it.

Now getting close to 50, and a huge mortgage on a dump when the last
recession hit. Set her back 30 years financially. But it is all our
fault. Typical liberal screwup will be working for a long time yet.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.


No. It's her fault. But, feel free to blame the gov't (or liberals or the
Ghost of Christmas Past). The bottom line is that she screwed up. It
happens.

She blames me because I didn't screw up like she did! Stupid POS. And
she blames C/conservatives as they should bail her out.

It happens a lot.

Raising kids liberally for example, they learn little of conservative
dicipline. Then when 25 or so, one loser job after anotehr they fail to
cope and do suicide.

This depression goes far beyond just the mechanics of government tax,
banking and corruption bailouts, the liberalism has become a disease that
is hurting people big time.

As when uncle Obama runs out of cash or hasn't gotten around to you, you
will be one disappointed liberal loser. A conservative self starter has a
huge advantage over a entitlist liberal at the moment, but the liberal
wants to steal it.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.


Maybe it is your fault. You're the older brother. Keep on ranting about
Obama. I'm sure someone inside your empty head cares.

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Nom=de=Plume

On 10/04/2010 1:54 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 10/04/2010 1:11 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 10/04/2010 11:10 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:42:51 -0600,
wrote:

On 09/04/2010 11:33 PM, wrote:

Is that $125k plus as some here say or is it less?

Depends on how you manage money. I have seen people live middle class
at $50k and others broke at $125K.

There is more to being middle class than what you make. It is also
about attitude and self dicipline.

I agree with that. The most "broke" people I know make over $100k but
they spend borrowed money like they make a million.

Yep. My little sister is like that. When life was good with two good
jobs they leveraged up to the 9's. We told them, now is the time to
solidify that wealth and pay off debt, not create more of it.

Now getting close to 50, and a huge mortgage on a dump when the last
recession hit. Set her back 30 years financially. But it is all our
fault. Typical liberal screwup will be working for a long time yet.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.


No. It's her fault. But, feel free to blame the gov't (or liberals or the
Ghost of Christmas Past). The bottom line is that she screwed up. It
happens.

She blames me because I didn't screw up like she did! Stupid POS. And
she blames C/conservatives as they should bail her out.

It happens a lot.

Raising kids liberally for example, they learn little of conservative
dicipline. Then when 25 or so, one loser job after anotehr they fail to
cope and do suicide.

This depression goes far beyond just the mechanics of government tax,
banking and corruption bailouts, the liberalism has become a disease that
is hurting people big time.

As when uncle Obama runs out of cash or hasn't gotten around to you, you
will be one disappointed liberal loser. A conservative self starter has a
huge advantage over a entitlist liberal at the moment, but the liberal
wants to steal it.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.


Maybe it is your fault. You're the older brother. Keep on ranting about
Obama. I'm sure someone inside your empty head cares.

It was years ago now since I saw the little slug. Had her over for
dinner with our mother, and after dinner I snapped when she grabbed our
limited income 75 year old mothers purse to pilfer money.

I simply said "Mom, I am sorry, I can't watch this any longer. J-------
please get the frac out of this house you Liberal touting blood sucking
immoral POS. Mom shouldn't have to put up with purse raiding and your
blood sucking 'poor me' screw up attitude any longer".

She went off in a fluff, haven't seen her since which suits me fine.

So I guess so. I wasn't will to be abused by a freeloader, and didn't
like the idea of her freeloading on her elderly Mom.

But not my fault. I can't control her, for if I owned her as a slave, I
would ahve it beaten right out of her hide.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:29:47 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 10/04/2010 12:45 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:05:27 -0600,
wrote:


conservatives can't handle reality

See if you can get this:

liberal - loose and free, few rules, can be anyone.

conservative: only the middle class has to obey rules

the rules are there to control them and deny them freedom.


Liberal - calls themselves a liberal/left. Usually dimwit democrat or
LPC (Canada).

conservatives: call themselves conservatives, not knowing it's an
oxymoron.


conservative - a philosophy of less risk and conservation. Can be anyone.

conservative: a philosophy of cowardice.




You can be a liberal Republican. And you can be a conservative
Democrat. But the norm is usually the reverse but not always.

Small "C" conservatives are like the pigs that built their homes with
bricks. Solid. Conserved resources conseravtively for years, they
suffer little in bad times.

really? if this is the case

then why did the conservative george bush have to raid the middle
class to save his rich, conservative pals?



Get with it. This is the english language.

let me know when you learn it.

On 10/04/2010 3:16 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:29:47 -0600,
wrote:

On 10/04/2010 12:45 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:05:27 -0600,
wrote:


conservatives can't handle reality

See if you can get this:

liberal - loose and free, few rules, can be anyone.

conservative: only the middle class has to obey rules

the rules are there to control them and deny them freedom.


Liberal - calls themselves a liberal/left. Usually dimwit democrat or
LPC (Canada).

conservatives: call themselves conservatives, not knowing it's an
oxymoron.


conservative - a philosophy of less risk and conservation. Can be anyone.

conservative: a philosophy of cowardice.




You can be a liberal Republican. And you can be a conservative
Democrat. But the norm is usually the reverse but not always.

Small "C" conservatives are like the pigs that built their homes with
bricks. Solid. Conserved resources conseravtively for years, they
suffer little in bad times.

really? if this is the case

then why did the conservative george bush have to raid the middle
class to save his rich, conservative pals?



Get with it. This is the english language.

let me know when you learn it.

Does not mater. With types like you, we know there will be lots of
squids to use.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 10/04/2010 1:54 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 10/04/2010 1:11 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 10/04/2010 11:10 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:42:51 -0600,
wrote:

On 09/04/2010 11:33 PM, wrote:

Is that $125k plus as some here say or is it less?

Depends on how you manage money. I have seen people live middle
class
at $50k and others broke at $125K.

There is more to being middle class than what you make. It is also
about attitude and self dicipline.

I agree with that. The most "broke" people I know make over $100k but
they spend borrowed money like they make a million.

Yep. My little sister is like that. When life was good with two good
jobs they leveraged up to the 9's. We told them, now is the time to
solidify that wealth and pay off debt, not create more of it.

Now getting close to 50, and a huge mortgage on a dump when the last
recession hit. Set her back 30 years financially. But it is all our
fault. Typical liberal screwup will be working for a long time yet.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.


No. It's her fault. But, feel free to blame the gov't (or liberals or
the
Ghost of Christmas Past). The bottom line is that she screwed up. It
happens.

She blames me because I didn't screw up like she did! Stupid POS. And
she blames C/conservatives as they should bail her out.

It happens a lot.

Raising kids liberally for example, they learn little of conservative
dicipline. Then when 25 or so, one loser job after anotehr they fail to
cope and do suicide.

This depression goes far beyond just the mechanics of government tax,
banking and corruption bailouts, the liberalism has become a disease
that
is hurting people big time.

As when uncle Obama runs out of cash or hasn't gotten around to you, you
will be one disappointed liberal loser. A conservative self starter has
a
huge advantage over a entitlist liberal at the moment, but the liberal
wants to steal it.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.


Maybe it is your fault. You're the older brother. Keep on ranting about
Obama. I'm sure someone inside your empty head cares.

It was years ago now since I saw the little slug. Had her over for dinner
with our mother, and after dinner I snapped when she grabbed our limited
income 75 year old mothers purse to pilfer money.

I simply said "Mom, I am sorry, I can't watch this any longer. J-------
please get the frac out of this house you Liberal touting blood sucking
immoral POS. Mom shouldn't have to put up with purse raiding and your
blood sucking 'poor me' screw up attitude any longer".

She went off in a fluff, haven't seen her since which suits me fine.

So I guess so. I wasn't will to be abused by a freeloader, and didn't
like the idea of her freeloading on her elderly Mom.

But not my fault. I can't control her, for if I owned her as a slave, I
would ahve it beaten right out of her hide.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.


Wow... you come from quite a family. I feel bad for you now.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:39:47 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


They will be able to tell stories about seeing the repo man, BMW and X5
come to mind. bpuharic and others like him are destined to be losers.

thanks to conservatives we've already lost

On 10/04/2010 3:47 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On 10/04/2010 1:54 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On 10/04/2010 1:11 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
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On 10/04/2010 11:10 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:42:51 -0600,
wrote:

On 09/04/2010 11:33 PM, wrote:

Is that $125k plus as some here say or is it less?

Depends on how you manage money. I have seen people live middle
class
at $50k and others broke at $125K.

There is more to being middle class than what you make. It is also
about attitude and self dicipline.

I agree with that. The most "broke" people I know make over $100k but
they spend borrowed money like they make a million.

Yep. My little sister is like that. When life was good with two good
jobs they leveraged up to the 9's. We told them, now is the time to
solidify that wealth and pay off debt, not create more of it.

Now getting close to 50, and a huge mortgage on a dump when the last
recession hit. Set her back 30 years financially. But it is all our
fault. Typical liberal screwup will be working for a long time yet.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.


No. It's her fault. But, feel free to blame the gov't (or liberals or
the
Ghost of Christmas Past). The bottom line is that she screwed up. It
happens.

She blames me because I didn't screw up like she did! Stupid POS. And
she blames C/conservatives as they should bail her out.

It happens a lot.

Raising kids liberally for example, they learn little of conservative
dicipline. Then when 25 or so, one loser job after anotehr they fail to
cope and do suicide.

This depression goes far beyond just the mechanics of government tax,
banking and corruption bailouts, the liberalism has become a disease
that
is hurting people big time.

As when uncle Obama runs out of cash or hasn't gotten around to you, you
will be one disappointed liberal loser. A conservative self starter has
a
huge advantage over a entitlist liberal at the moment, but the liberal
wants to steal it.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.


Maybe it is your fault. You're the older brother. Keep on ranting about
Obama. I'm sure someone inside your empty head cares.

It was years ago now since I saw the little slug. Had her over for dinner
with our mother, and after dinner I snapped when she grabbed our limited
income 75 year old mothers purse to pilfer money.

I simply said "Mom, I am sorry, I can't watch this any longer. J-------
please get the frac out of this house you Liberal touting blood sucking
immoral POS. Mom shouldn't have to put up with purse raiding and your
blood sucking 'poor me' screw up attitude any longer".

She went off in a fluff, haven't seen her since which suits me fine.

So I guess so. I wasn't will to be abused by a freeloader, and didn't
like the idea of her freeloading on her elderly Mom.

But not my fault. I can't control her, for if I owned her as a slave, I
would ahve it beaten right out of her hide.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.


Wow... you come from quite a family. I feel bad for you now.

Don't. I rose above it. You are your own limitation to life. You
don't know the 1/4 of it, I could write a book on it.

--
Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money.

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:13:01 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:45:01 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

right wingers blew out the US economy. alan greenspan...disciple of
ayn rand...george bush.

With plenty of help from "the left"

really? the left was part of the chicago school?

gee. that's gonna come as news to everyone.


neither was liberal

Nor was Clinton, Greenspan worked for him, what's your point?

and clinton's govt was run by a conservative congress which ran
rampant with chicago school philosophy

you DO know about the chicago school, right?

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:35:22 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



Raising kids liberally for example, they learn little of conservative
dicipline. Then when 25 or so, one loser job after anotehr they fail to
cope and do suicide.

or, if they become conservative, they bomb a federal building


This depression goes far beyond just the mechanics of government tax,
banking and corruption bailouts, the liberalism has become a disease
that is hurting people big time.

except it was caused by right wing conservative economics. and the
economy is growing. not that you keep up with the news


As when uncle Obama runs out of cash or hasn't gotten around to you, you
will be one disappointed liberal loser. A conservative self starter has
a huge advantage over a entitlist liberal at the moment, but the liberal
wants to steal it.

except the right has already stolen everything the middle class has to
offer:


http://www.tnr.com/blogs/jonathan-chait

The recovery from the 2001 recession basically never produced real
wage gains -- essentially all the gains went into corporate profits
and gains for the very rich

On 10/04/2010 6:19 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:33:47 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:13:01 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:45:01 -0400, wrote:

right wingers blew out the US economy. alan greenspan...disciple of
ayn rand...george bush.

With plenty of help from "the left"

really? the left was part of the chicago school?

gee. that's gonna come as news to everyone.


neither was liberal

Nor was Clinton, Greenspan worked for him, what's your point?

and clinton's govt was run by a conservative congress which ran
rampant with chicago school philosophy

you DO know about the chicago school, right?

I basically agree with you but the same voodoo economics model that HW
Bush criticized in 1984 was the way they ALL did business since.
My only complaint is you keep saying this was just a right wing plot.
Both sides embraced it for 25 years until the whole thing collapsed in
on itself.
I have posted the vote several times here but the deregulation bill HR
5477 most responsible for this disaster was opposed by 51 conservative
republicans and 9 democrats.

But it made debt cheaper to appease debtors including the congress.
Didn't mater the massive ensuing debt (personal, private and public)
would someday become a huge issue.

Well the day has arrived and Obama is going to solve a debt problem with
more debt. Forgive my contempt to Obama, he is an idiot if he thinks he
can spend america out of debt.

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.