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On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:14:35 -0400, hk
wrote:

On 3/21/10 10:46 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:09:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

All the ones in the marina have them at the bow.

Then you are at a marina with nothing but small boats.

What an ass you are, w'hine.

I take it we can we assume that your nav lights are on the bow also?

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On Mar 22, 5:12*am, W1TEF wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:04:11 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:03:42 -0700, "RG" wrote:

You really need to buy a copy of Chapman's and
study it. *Seriously.

Chapman's is a great investment for anyone who is even remotely
interested in boats. *Hopefully that includes everyone in this group
and I know it applies to Tim. *I got my first copy sometime back in
the early 70s and still refer to it once in a while.

I have two copies of "American Practical Navigator" - one published in
1914 and the latest that has all the more modern changes. *The
differences between the two are significant.

My Paternal Grandfather had a copy of "The New American Practical
Navigator" which was the book that Bowditch's AMP is based on. *It was
written in 1802. * It now resides in the Peabody Museum in Salem, MA.

Personally, Chapman's is great for all around boating, but Bowditch is
the Master Course. *:)

Does this come close to what you're talking about, Tom?


http://www.irbs.com/bowditch/

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In article ,
says...

On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:12:50 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

Your
boat couldn't turn around in the area I frequent.

Selden Creek? I've been through there in the dinghy a few times. That
is some spooky cove up at the north end. We've actually had the big
boat all the way into the north end of Hamburg Cove, right up to the
village.

Yeah, but you still had to stay in the lanes;) It is a great area to
boat, but there are lots of surprises if you are not paying attention.

Scotty

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On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:51:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Personally, Chapman's is great for all around boating, but Bowditch is
the Master Course. *:)

Does this come close to what you're talking about, Tom?


http://www.irbs.com/bowditch/

That's the one, good read but I recommend starting with Chapman's.

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On 3/22/10 7:48 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:14:35 -0400,
wrote:

On 3/21/10 10:46 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:09:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

All the ones in the marina have them at the bow.

Then you are at a marina with nothing but small boats.

What an ass you are, w'hine.

I take it we can we assume that your nav lights are on the bow also?


In a previous post, a question was asked:

"Aren't most nav lights on or near the bow of most boats???"

Your response:

"No."

How the hell would you know whether there are more boats with side or
otherwise mounted nav lights than combo bow mounted nav lights? As there
are far more small boats than large boats, I suspect there are more
combo than split red/green nav lights on boats.

And aren't combos satisfactory for boats up to 20 meters long? That
would cover your old barge, wouldn't it? Nothing prevents you from using
sidelights. Hell, I have bow-mounted, separate nav lights on my 21'
Parker. I had the standard combo light removed to accommodate my anchor
roller:

http://tinyurl.com/yz48s97


You are a pompous ass, w'hine.




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On Mar 22, 7:01*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:51:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Personally, Chapman's is great for all around boating, but Bowditch is
the Master Course. *:)

Does this come close to what you're talking about, Tom?

http://www.irbs.com/bowditch/

That's the one, good read but I recommend starting with Chapman's.

Thanks, Wayne. Tom mentioned "Boditch" so I looked it up . I'll start
with Chapman.

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On 3/22/10 8:04 AM, hk wrote:
On 3/22/10 7:48 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:14:35 -0400,
wrote:

On 3/21/10 10:46 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:09:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

All the ones in the marina have them at the bow.

Then you are at a marina with nothing but small boats.

What an ass you are, w'hine.

I take it we can we assume that your nav lights are on the bow also?


In a previous post, a question was asked:

"Aren't most nav lights on or near the bow of most boats???"

Your response:

"No."

How the hell would you know whether there are more boats with side or
otherwise mounted nav lights than combo bow mounted nav lights? As there
are far more small boats than large boats, I suspect there are more
combo than split red/green nav lights on boats.

And aren't combos satisfactory for boats up to 20 meters long? That
would cover your old barge, wouldn't it? Nothing prevents you from using
sidelights. Hell, I have bow-mounted, separate nav lights on my 21'
Parker. I had the standard combo light removed to accommodate my anchor
roller:



http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...t=IMG_0434.jpg


You are a pompous ass, w'hine.






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On 3/22/10 9:10 AM, W1TEF wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:43:32 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:12:40 -0400,
wrote:

Chapman's is a great investment for anyone who is even remotely
interested in boats. Hopefully that includes everyone in this group
and I know it applies to Tim. I got my first copy sometime back in
the early 70s and still refer to it once in a while.

I have two copies of "American Practical Navigator" - one published in
1914 and the latest that has all the more modern changes. The
differences between the two are significant.

My Paternal Grandfather had a copy of "The New American Practical
Navigator" which was the book that Bowditch's AMP is based on. It was
written in 1802. It now resides in the Peabody Museum in Salem, MA.

Personally, Chapman's is great for all around boating, but Bowditch is
the Master Course. :)

Do you have a copy of Dutton's also? My copy dates back to the 70s or
80s. I believe it was the official navigation text at the the US
Naval Academy at that time but I always found Bowditch more useful for
most things. Dutton's had information on electronic navigation but
that's way out of date at this point.

No, but my brother has the copy my Dad had along with a WWII
Bluejacket manual which is also kind of interesting. :)



Are you related to the SW Tom who wasn't going to post here?

:)

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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:47:30 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Mar 21, 3:21*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:49:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Pick up a copy of the Inland/International navigation rules or read
them online - you can also download a copy in PDF format I believe.

http://www.amazon.com/Navigation-Rul.../dp/0939837498

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/rotr_online.htm

Thanks for those links, Tom. I will be doing some studying. I suppose
the reason I'm asking all these questions about Nav. Lights is I want
to update my boat *to better standards and make it as safe as I can.

I'd leave the lights alone for now as long as they are working OK
since there are probably other things that need a look. *

Running at night is very tricky even for the experienced, and should
really be avoided when possible. *Take it real slow, especially the
first few times. * Everything that looks familiar during daylight
looks entirely different in the dark, and distances are much more
difficult to judge accurately.

Back in my sailboat days I ran literally thousands of miles in the
dark with no incidents and no radar but with a few close calls, some
way too close for comfort. *Now that I've gotten used to running with
radar at night I would never operate without it if at all possible. *

Even radar is not perfect however. *Off the coast of the Dominican
Republic we were surprised several times by small wooden fishing
skiffs operating 12 or more miles offshore with no lights and no radar
image at all. *They are totally invisible until you are almost on
them, even in daylight. *They would see us however and either yell or
shine a light at us, not a really satisfactory way of navigating.
That's one of my reasons for recommending a good radar reflector.

Wayne, I don't want to run at night, even on my wide Carlyle Lake. And
I dont' plan to, but I wan't my boat to be set up better'n spec.

Tim, the last time I ran at night was from the fireworks show at the Washington
Mall to the Ft Belvoir marina, down the Potomac river at about 11 PM,

It scared the **** out of me. I was in a 15' Whaler, and it seemed like everyone
else had a 34' Gofast, which they piloted while drunk.

Never again.
--
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On Mar 22, 7:15*am, W1TEF wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:51:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:





On Mar 22, 5:12 am, W1TEF wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:04:11 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:03:42 -0700, "RG" wrote:

You really need to buy a copy of Chapman's and
study it. Seriously.

Chapman's is a great investment for anyone who is even remotely
interested in boats. Hopefully that includes everyone in this group
and I know it applies to Tim. I got my first copy sometime back in
the early 70s and still refer to it once in a while.

I have two copies of "American Practical Navigator" - one published in
1914 and the latest that has all the more modern changes. The
differences between the two are significant.

My Paternal Grandfather had a copy of "The New American Practical
Navigator" which was the book that Bowditch's AMP is based on. It was
written in 1802. It now resides in the Peabody Museum in Salem, MA.

Personally, Chapman's is great for all around boating, but Bowditch is
the Master Course. :)

Does this come close to what you're talking about, Tom?

http://www.irbs.com/bowditch/

Yeah - that's it, but I would heed Wayne's advice and get a copy of
Chapman's and read through it first. *Bowditch is a great book once
you've got the gist of everything, but it can be heavy going - nothing
that anybody with high school geometry and trig can't handle - to tell
the truth, the trig isn't all that necessary but it makes everything
else easier.

I would also pick up a copy of the rule book and look through it for
the various types of lights you will run into on your trip down river.
Just to get an idea of what looks like what. *Chapman's does cover it,
but the Nav Rules book is more condensed and gives you the legal
beagle stuff along wtih a look at what the lights look like.- Hide quoted text -

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"Worthy advice is always worthy to heed. "

Thanks!