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On Mar 21, 7:45*pm, "RG" wrote:
the light on the aft is not suspended like what you would think on a
pole, but is in the middle of the stern. It kind of reminds you of a
back up light if anything else.

Based on that nugget of information, it would appear that your boat is lit
under international rules versus inland rules. *That means there is a
companion to the stern light you describe. *There should be a forward-facing
white light on a pole that plugs into a socket of some sort, probably
located on your upper windshield frame. *It could also be a light on a pole
that is permanently attached, but can be folded down. *This forward facing
white light, combined with the stern light on the transom combine to satisfy
the 32 points of required coverage. *Suggest you focus your efforts on
finding that other white light (unless you have it and just failed to
mention it) rather than the worrying about the red and green lights, which
are just fine where they are.

Thanks! I think I remember an un-used socket of some sort up around
the windshield area.

This boat was origionally used on Lake Erie and the people fished a
lot.

Could it turely be this boat was set for int'l specs? Odd for a 23
ft. boat, though.

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Could it turely be this boat was set for int'l specs? Odd for a 23
ft. boat, though.

It's not odd at all. That's about the size of boat where international
lighting starts to become very common. It has nothing to do with where the
boat was manufactured or where it is used. Domestic manufacturers will use
the international lighting scheme on boats that size and above simply
because it is the proper choice for larger vessels. It's also the reason
your port and starboard lights are mounted where they are and not as a small
combo light on the bow. You really need to buy a copy of Chapman's and
study it. Seriously.

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On Mar 21, 3:21*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:49:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Pick up a copy of the Inland/International navigation rules or read
them online - you can also download a copy in PDF format I believe.

http://www.amazon.com/Navigation-Rul.../dp/0939837498

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/rotr_online.htm

Thanks for those links, Tom. I will be doing some studying. I suppose
the reason I'm asking all these questions about Nav. Lights is I want
to update my boat *to better standards and make it as safe as I can.

I'd leave the lights alone for now as long as they are working OK
since there are probably other things that need a look. *

Running at night is very tricky even for the experienced, and should
really be avoided when possible. *Take it real slow, especially the
first few times. * Everything that looks familiar during daylight
looks entirely different in the dark, and distances are much more
difficult to judge accurately.

Back in my sailboat days I ran literally thousands of miles in the
dark with no incidents and no radar but with a few close calls, some
way too close for comfort. *Now that I've gotten used to running with
radar at night I would never operate without it if at all possible. *

Even radar is not perfect however. *Off the coast of the Dominican
Republic we were surprised several times by small wooden fishing
skiffs operating 12 or more miles offshore with no lights and no
radatr
image at all. *They are totally invisible until you are almost on
them, even in daylight. *They would see us however and either yell or
shine a light at us, not a really satisfactory way of navigating.
That's one of my reasons for recommending a good radar reflector.

Wayne, I don't want to run at night, even on my wide Carlyle Lake. And
I dont' plan to, but I wan't my boat to be set up better'n spec.

Oh man, being out at night on an open area is awesome. Make sure your
lights are set up right like they said so you don't see them from the
cockpit and they don't reflect off of anything back at you. Then keep
the radio off, and always keep the big spotlight moving. If you have two
sets of eyes, and two lights, it's even better. Anchored is a bit more
complicated but if you set yourself right and keep alert, you are
usually ok. Again, I wouldn't do it without a couple of those million
candle power lights, hand held and moving around a lot.

Scotty

I should note that when I say keep the radio off, I don't mean
communication radio, I mean keep the tunes off and pay attention to what
is around you. One thing I learned was not to necessarily look out for
other boats, but look up too! One day I saw this star moving across the
sky and realized it was the top light of a tug, moving a huge barge
right at me. yikes.

Scotty

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On Mar 21, 8:54*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ced8cd5d-d10e-4792-8c2a-
, says...

On Mar 21, 3:21*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:49:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Pick up a copy of the Inland/International navigation rules or read
them online - you can also download a copy in PDF format I believe..

http://www.amazon.com/Navigation-Rul.../dp/0939837498

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/rotr_online.htm

Thanks for those links, Tom. I will be doing some studying. I suppose
the reason I'm asking all these questions about Nav. Lights is I want
to update my boat *to better standards and make it as safe as I can.

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In article 9020e94a-088d-4c28-8c27-cc99cbe7b610@
15g2000yqi.googlegroups.com, says...

On Mar 21, 8:54*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ced8cd5d-d10e-4792-8c2a-
, says...

On Mar 21, 3:21*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:49:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Pick up a copy of the Inland/International navigation rules or read
them online - you can also download a copy in PDF format I believe.

http://www.amazon.com/Navigation-Rul.../dp/0939837498

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/rotr_online.htm

Thanks for those links, Tom. I will be doing some studying. I suppose
the reason I'm asking all these questions about Nav. Lights is I want
to update my boat *to better standards and make it as safe as I can.

I'd leave the lights alone for now as long as they are working OK
since there are probably other things that need a look. *

Running at night is very tricky even for the experienced, and should
really be avoided when possible. *Take it real slow, especially the
first few times. * Everything that looks familiar during daylight
looks entirely different in the dark, and distances are much more
difficult to judge accurately.

Back in my sailboat days I ran literally thousands of miles in the
dark with no incidents and no radar but with a few close calls, some
way too close for comfort. *Now that I've gotten used to running with
radar at night I would never operate without it if at all possible. *

Even radar is not perfect however. *Off the coast of the Dominican
Republic we were surprised several times by small wooden fishing
skiffs operating 12 or more miles offshore with no lights and no
radatr
image at all. *They are totally invisible until you are almost on
them, even in daylight. *They would see us however and either yell or
shine a light at us, not a really satisfactory way of navigating.
That's one of my reasons for recommending a good radar reflector.

Wayne, I don't want to run at night, even on my wide Carlyle Lake. And
I dont' plan to, but I wan't my boat to be set up better'n spec.

Oh man, being out at night on an open area is awesome. Make sure your
lights are set up right like they said so you don't see them from the
cockpit and they don't reflect off of anything back at you. Then keep
the radio off, and always keep the big spotlight moving. If you have two
sets of eyes, and two lights, it's even better. Anchored is a bit more
complicated but if you set yourself right and keep alert, you are
usually ok. Again, I wouldn't do it without a couple of those million
candle power lights, hand held and moving around a lot.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

I have a 3 mil. cp. light that on the lake when it's late and dark
especially with no moon, that I will turn on occasionally and do a
look around but I think like Gregg said, that could be frowned upon.
And I don't run break-neck speed either.

Yeah, I am very strict with the kids about the light. They are not to
let it shine or reflect into anybody s yard, home, or boat unless you
are particularly trying to get their attention.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

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On Mar 21, 9:03*pm, "RG" wrote:
Could it turely be this boat was set for int'l specs? *Odd for a 23
ft. boat, though.

It's not odd at all. *That's about the size of boat where international
lighting starts to become very common. *It has nothing to do with where the
boat was manufactured or where it is used. *Domestic manufacturers will use
the international lighting scheme on boats that size and above simply
because it is the proper choice for larger vessels. *It's also the reason
your port and starboard lights are mounted where they are and not as a small
combo light on the bow. *You really need to buy a copy of Chapman's and
study it. *Seriously.

I'm looking into it, man. Seriously.

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On 3/21/10 10:46 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:09:47 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

All the ones in the marina have them at the bow.

Then you are at a marina with nothing but small boats.

What an ass you are, w'hine.

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On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:12:40 -0400, W1TEF
wrote:

Chapman's is a great investment for anyone who is even remotely
interested in boats. Hopefully that includes everyone in this group
and I know it applies to Tim. I got my first copy sometime back in
the early 70s and still refer to it once in a while.

I have two copies of "American Practical Navigator" - one published in
1914 and the latest that has all the more modern changes. The
differences between the two are significant.

My Paternal Grandfather had a copy of "The New American Practical
Navigator" which was the book that Bowditch's AMP is based on. It was
written in 1802. It now resides in the Peabody Museum in Salem, MA.

Personally, Chapman's is great for all around boating, but Bowditch is
the Master Course. :)

Do you have a copy of Dutton's also? My copy dates back to the 70s or
80s. I believe it was the official navigation text at the the US
Naval Academy at that time but I always found Bowditch more useful for
most things. Dutton's had information on electronic navigation but
that's way out of date at this point.

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On 3/22/10 7:43 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:12:40 -0400,
wrote:

Chapman's is a great investment for anyone who is even remotely
interested in boats. Hopefully that includes everyone in this group
and I know it applies to Tim. I got my first copy sometime back in
the early 70s and still refer to it once in a while.

I have two copies of "American Practical Navigator" - one published in
1914 and the latest that has all the more modern changes. The
differences between the two are significant.

My Paternal Grandfather had a copy of "The New American Practical
Navigator" which was the book that Bowditch's AMP is based on. It was
written in 1802. It now resides in the Peabody Museum in Salem, MA.

Personally, Chapman's is great for all around boating, but Bowditch is
the Master Course. :)

Do you have a copy of Dutton's also? My copy dates back to the 70s or
80s. I believe it was the official navigation text at the the US
Naval Academy at that time but I always found Bowditch more useful for
most things. Dutton's had information on electronic navigation but
that's way out of date at this point.

snerk

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