On 2/4/10 1:06 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:31:09 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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I don't think there is a "fix". These people will have to work out
their own problems. We are just prolonging the agony.


I agree. There's no complete fix, but we certainly have the obligation to
make the situation better. Just leaving isn't the best option for either
them or us.


I have waited for "peace with honor" before ... about 20,000 dead
Americans worth of waiting.
Where is Jerry Ford when we need him?


It's not a matter of "peace with honor" and I never said that. I said that
we need to at least attempt to clean up our mess before we leave.



What does "peace with honor" mean, anyway? That our troops walk out and
the place they leave behind doesn't fall apart 10 minutes later? We
haven't seen *that* after any major conflict since the end of WWII, and
we helped rebuild Japan, Italy, and Germany, and *none* of those
countries had religious zealots in charge by then.

Maybe the answer is to rid the world of religious fundamentalists who
run nations.