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On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:21:35 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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Get the hell out and let the big dog eat.

We are not in Iran and they look like they are going to throw out the
mullahs all on their own (perhaps with a little covert help from the
CIA)



Basically, you're saying that even though we broke it, we'll let a
massacre
take place and that's ok. It isn't.

I don't think there is a "fix". These people will have to work out
their own problems. We are just prolonging the agony.


I agree. There's no complete fix, but we certainly have the obligation to
make the situation better. Just leaving isn't the best option for either
them or us.

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Why not?

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On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:21:35 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Get the hell out and let the big dog eat.

We are not in Iran and they look like they are going to throw out the
mullahs all on their own (perhaps with a little covert help from the
CIA)



Basically, you're saying that even though we broke it, we'll let a
massacre
take place and that's ok. It isn't.

I don't think there is a "fix". These people will have to work out
their own problems. We are just prolonging the agony.


I agree. There's no complete fix, but we certainly have the obligation to
make the situation better. Just leaving isn't the best option for either
them or us.

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Nom=de=Plume


Why not?



Try reading the thread or get someone to read it for you.

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On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:10:51 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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I don't think that's happening in Afg. right now... at least not from
our
side. I could be wrong. In any case, you've identified the problem
that we
shouldn't be there for the long term certainly or in Iraq any longer
than
humanly possible. So, what's your solution? If we "just leave," a lot
more
civilians would die, at least that's what all the generals are saying.

So what? That will happen whenever we leave. We had the same
experience in Vietnam but a few years later everything worked itself
out and now they are members of the global economy. Have you looked at
the country of manufacture of wooden furniture lately?


According to who? The more stable we can make it, the fewer lives will
be
lost. So, your solution is.....

Get the hell out and let the big dog eat.

We are not in Iran and they look like they are going to throw out the
mullahs all on their own (perhaps with a little covert help from the
CIA)



Basically, you're saying that even though we broke it, we'll let a
massacre take place and that's ok. It isn't.

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If we got out tomorrow, there will be civil war of 3-6 months. Until they
decide what they want as a country. If we get out in 10 years, there will
be civil war of 3-6 months. Until they decide what they want as a
country.



According to Bill McKee, the expert in foreign relations.

Why don't you tell us about your many patents again.

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On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:21:35 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Get the hell out and let the big dog eat.

We are not in Iran and they look like they are going to throw out the
mullahs all on their own (perhaps with a little covert help from the
CIA)


Basically, you're saying that even though we broke it, we'll let a
massacre
take place and that's ok. It isn't.
I don't think there is a "fix". These people will have to work out
their own problems. We are just prolonging the agony.

I agree. There's no complete fix, but we certainly have the obligation to
make the situation better. Just leaving isn't the best option for either
them or us.

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Nom=de=Plume

Why not?



Try reading the thread or get someone to read it for you.

Last warning skank. Answer the mans question if you can.

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On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 20:10:51 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I don't think that's happening in Afg. right now... at least not from
our
side. I could be wrong. In any case, you've identified the problem
that we
shouldn't be there for the long term certainly or in Iraq any longer
than
humanly possible. So, what's your solution? If we "just leave," a lot
more
civilians would die, at least that's what all the generals are saying.
So what? That will happen whenever we leave. We had the same
experience in Vietnam but a few years later everything worked itself
out and now they are members of the global economy. Have you looked at
the country of manufacture of wooden furniture lately?

According to who? The more stable we can make it, the fewer lives will
be
lost. So, your solution is.....
Get the hell out and let the big dog eat.

We are not in Iran and they look like they are going to throw out the
mullahs all on their own (perhaps with a little covert help from the
CIA)


Basically, you're saying that even though we broke it, we'll let a
massacre take place and that's ok. It isn't.

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Nom=de=Plume

If we got out tomorrow, there will be civil war of 3-6 months. Until they
decide what they want as a country. If we get out in 10 years, there will
be civil war of 3-6 months. Until they decide what they want as a
country.



According to Bill McKee, the expert in foreign relations.

Why don't you tell us about your many patents again.

Why don't you look them up yourself and show us what a great looker
upper you are.

Harry wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:

Try reading the thread or get someone to read it for you.

Last warning skank. Answer the mans question if you can.

I'm sorry nom=de=plume. Didn't mean to be disrespectful.
When I post as Harry I forget my morality, and who I am.
Since I think you're a ditz on many points, I should have just ignored
you or respectfully disagreed point by point.
It's this Harry thing. Didn't mean to carry it onto you.
Sorry.

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On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:31:09 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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I don't think there is a "fix". These people will have to work out
their own problems. We are just prolonging the agony.


I agree. There's no complete fix, but we certainly have the obligation to
make the situation better. Just leaving isn't the best option for either
them or us.


I have waited for "peace with honor" before ... about 20,000 dead
Americans worth of waiting.
Where is Jerry Ford when we need him?


It's not a matter of "peace with honor" and I never said that. I said that
we need to at least attempt to clean up our mess before we leave.

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On 2/4/10 1:06 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:31:09 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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I don't think there is a "fix". These people will have to work out
their own problems. We are just prolonging the agony.


I agree. There's no complete fix, but we certainly have the obligation to
make the situation better. Just leaving isn't the best option for either
them or us.


I have waited for "peace with honor" before ... about 20,000 dead
Americans worth of waiting.
Where is Jerry Ford when we need him?


It's not a matter of "peace with honor" and I never said that. I said that
we need to at least attempt to clean up our mess before we leave.



What does "peace with honor" mean, anyway? That our troops walk out and
the place they leave behind doesn't fall apart 10 minutes later? We
haven't seen *that* after any major conflict since the end of WWII, and
we helped rebuild Japan, Italy, and Germany, and *none* of those
countries had religious zealots in charge by then.

Maybe the answer is to rid the world of religious fundamentalists who
run nations.

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On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:21:35 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Get the hell out and let the big dog eat.

We are not in Iran and they look like they are going to throw out the
mullahs all on their own (perhaps with a little covert help from the
CIA)



Basically, you're saying that even though we broke it, we'll let a
massacre
take place and that's ok. It isn't.

I don't think there is a "fix". These people will have to work out
their own problems. We are just prolonging the agony.


I agree. There's no complete fix, but we certainly have the obligation
to make the situation better. Just leaving isn't the best option for
either them or us.

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Nom=de=Plume


Why not?



Try reading the thread or get someone to read it for you.

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Sismple question. Why not leave now? They are going to kill each other
after we leave, they kill each other now. So why not now? Beyond your
comprehension?




We should pull our troops and send in all our right-wing religious
fundies to fight the taliban and the rest of the religious crackpots
over there. Our crackpots vs. their crackpots...works for me.

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On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 23:21:35 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Get the hell out and let the big dog eat.

We are not in Iran and they look like they are going to throw out the
mullahs all on their own (perhaps with a little covert help from the
CIA)



Basically, you're saying that even though we broke it, we'll let a
massacre
take place and that's ok. It isn't.

I don't think there is a "fix". These people will have to work out
their own problems. We are just prolonging the agony.


I agree. There's no complete fix, but we certainly have the obligation
to make the situation better. Just leaving isn't the best option for
either them or us.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Why not?



Try reading the thread or get someone to read it for you.

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Sismple question. Why not leave now? They are going to kill each other
after we leave, they kill each other now. So why not now? Beyond your
comprehension?