On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:00:56 -0500, Eisboch wrote:

Just finished reading this. It's worth consideration, I think.

Short summary can be viewed and read he

http://www.house.gov/ryan/press_rele...pressreleases/
RoadmapSummary.pdf


Detailed report with the numbers to back it up he

http://www.house.gov/budget_republicans/entitlement/
roadmap_detailed_entirereport.pdf

Have fun,
Eisboch

Nothing for nothing, but after the response of the American people to the
sausage making of health care reform, I expect these wide-sweeping road
maps to be a thing of the past. Health care reform is one thing. A year
ago, everyone seemed to want it, but this guy wants to overhaul health
care, medicare, social security, *and* taxes. DOA

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:00:56 -0500, Eisboch wrote:

Just finished reading this. It's worth consideration, I think.

Short summary can be viewed and read he

http://www.house.gov/ryan/press_rele...pressreleases/
RoadmapSummary.pdf


Detailed report with the numbers to back it up he

http://www.house.gov/budget_republicans/entitlement/
roadmap_detailed_entirereport.pdf

Have fun,
Eisboch

Nothing for nothing, but after the response of the American people to the
sausage making of health care reform, I expect these wide-sweeping road
maps to be a thing of the past. Health care reform is one thing. A year
ago, everyone seemed to want it, but this guy wants to overhaul health
care, medicare, social security, *and* taxes. DOA


His roadmap isn't perfect ... or maybe even feasible ... but band-aid
approaches to each crisis isn't going to work either.
It's really time to re-think economics in this global economy and then plan
and act accordingly. The programs and solutions being beaten to death in
D.C. aren't going to solve anything, long term.

Eisboch

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"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:00:56 -0500, Eisboch wrote:

Just finished reading this. It's worth consideration, I think.

Short summary can be viewed and read he

http://www.house.gov/ryan/press_rele...pressreleases/
RoadmapSummary.pdf


Detailed report with the numbers to back it up he

http://www.house.gov/budget_republicans/entitlement/
roadmap_detailed_entirereport.pdf

Have fun,
Eisboch

Nothing for nothing, but after the response of the American people to the
sausage making of health care reform, I expect these wide-sweeping road
maps to be a thing of the past. Health care reform is one thing. A year
ago, everyone seemed to want it, but this guy wants to overhaul health
care, medicare, social security, *and* taxes. DOA


His roadmap isn't perfect ... or maybe even feasible ... but band-aid
approaches to each crisis isn't going to work either.
It's really time to re-think economics in this global economy and then plan
and act accordingly. The programs and solutions being beaten to death in
D.C. aren't going to solve anything, long term.

Your problem is that our system works with the band-aid method. There is
no long term view when it comes to economics. Congress turns over every
two years and each new congress comes in with its own ideas of what to
do and how to do it.

On 27/01/2010 6:08 PM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:00:56 -0500, Eisboch wrote:

Just finished reading this. It's worth consideration, I think.

Short summary can be viewed and read he

http://www.house.gov/ryan/press_rele...pressreleases/
RoadmapSummary.pdf


Detailed report with the numbers to back it up he

http://www.house.gov/budget_republicans/entitlement/
roadmap_detailed_entirereport.pdf

Have fun,
Eisboch

Nothing for nothing, but after the response of the American people to the
sausage making of health care reform, I expect these wide-sweeping road
maps to be a thing of the past. Health care reform is one thing. A year
ago, everyone seemed to want it, but this guy wants to overhaul health
care, medicare, social security, *and* taxes. DOA


His roadmap isn't perfect ... or maybe even feasible ... but band-aid
approaches to each crisis isn't going to work either.
It's really time to re-think economics in this global economy and then plan
and act accordingly. The programs and solutions being beaten to death in
D.C. aren't going to solve anything, long term.

Eisboch

Agreed. And the only thing Obama made sense with is government cuts in
spending.

Trouble is, I don't believe he is succinct. How can you be overspending
by $2 trillion a year, promise more can save $30 billion and balance the
budget?

I would say his roadmap has no hope in hell. More BS talk.

I still say government wants health care for the revenue skiming.

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:08:44 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


His roadmap isn't perfect ... or maybe even feasible ... but band-aid
approaches to each crisis isn't going to work either. It's really time
to re-think economics in this global economy and then plan and act
accordingly. The programs and solutions being beaten to death in D.C.
aren't going to solve anything, long term.

Yeah, but, is it the government's job to rethink the economics?
Governments are for tweaking, perhaps giving direction, and, if
necessary, saving our economic asses. More than that, would scare the
hell out of me. I'll give you, tax code simplification would be a good
thing, but an overhaul, is very unlikely. I'd like to see more support
for our small business engine, as opposed to the multinationals. Obama
seems to support this, and, I'd like to see health care untied from
business. The competitive disadvantage it puts on our businesses is
considerable, but, other than those things, I think we are quite
resilient, and will recover nicely. Not as fast as I would like, or
those who are hurting would like, but there is no magic wand.

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says...

I'd like to see more support
for our small business engine, as opposed to the multinationals. Obama
seems to support this,

What makes you say that? Because he *said* so? Come on, small business
is going to get eaten up by the government union machine...


Scotty

On 1/28/10 7:58 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In inet,
says...

I'd like to see more support
for our small business engine, as opposed to the multinationals. Obama
seems to support this,

What makes you say that? Because he *said* so? Come on, small business
is going to get eaten up by the government union machine...


Scotty


I'm sorry, I misplaced my secret decoder ring. Would you please repost
that, and this time in standard English?

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:08:44 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


His roadmap isn't perfect ... or maybe even feasible ... but band-aid
approaches to each crisis isn't going to work either. It's really time
to re-think economics in this global economy and then plan and act
accordingly. The programs and solutions being beaten to death in D.C.
aren't going to solve anything, long term.

Yeah, but, is it the government's job to rethink the economics?
Governments are for tweaking, perhaps giving direction, and, if
necessary, saving our economic asses. More than that, would scare the
hell out of me. I'll give you, tax code simplification would be a good
thing, but an overhaul, is very unlikely. I'd like to see more support
for our small business engine, as opposed to the multinationals. Obama
seems to support this, and, I'd like to see health care untied from
business. The competitive disadvantage it puts on our businesses is
considerable, but, other than those things, I think we are quite
resilient, and will recover nicely. Not as fast as I would like, or
those who are hurting would like, but there is no magic wand.

Obama does not support the small businesses at all. Have you noticed the
number of small banks that have been closed over the past year. Who were
those banks servicing? They were not servicing large multinational
corporations. Typically, these small banks when seized have their assets
sold to larger banks and these larger banks do lend as easily to small
businesses.

If you want support for small businesses then you want tax cuts,
permanent tax cuts, not targeted tax cuts, tax cuts across the board.

Small businesses want to know what the rules and regulations are going
to be for the next three to 10 years so that they can make plans and
execute those plans. With Obama and his maniac/depressive and bi-polar
policies nobody knows what the rules are going to be from one day to the
next.

When BofA, Wells Fargo and CitiBank took the TARP money there was no
mention of limiting executives salaries to $500,000. That was something
that popped into Obama's head one day and he proclaimed it like the
dictator that he wants to be. That is not governing that is ruling and
we do not elect rulers.

On 27/01/2010 5:45 PM, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:00:56 -0500, Eisboch wrote:

Just finished reading this. It's worth consideration, I think.

Short summary can be viewed and read he

http://www.house.gov/ryan/press_rele...pressreleases/
RoadmapSummary.pdf


Detailed report with the numbers to back it up he

http://www.house.gov/budget_republicans/entitlement/
roadmap_detailed_entirereport.pdf

Have fun,
Eisboch

Nothing for nothing, but after the response of the American people to the
sausage making of health care reform, I expect these wide-sweeping road
maps to be a thing of the past. Health care reform is one thing. A year
ago, everyone seemed to want it, but this guy wants to overhaul health
care, medicare, social security, *and* taxes. DOA

Because more people are starting to realize what democrat health care
is. An attempt to skim health care revenue for government excesses in
spending and corruption. Including the democrat need to fund
dysfunctional private corporations with taxpayers taxes.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 27/01/2010 5:45 PM, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 09:00:56 -0500, Eisboch wrote:

Just finished reading this. It's worth consideration, I think.

Short summary can be viewed and read he

http://www.house.gov/ryan/press_rele...pressreleases/
RoadmapSummary.pdf


Detailed report with the numbers to back it up he

http://www.house.gov/budget_republicans/entitlement/
roadmap_detailed_entirereport.pdf

Have fun,
Eisboch

Nothing for nothing, but after the response of the American people to the
sausage making of health care reform, I expect these wide-sweeping road
maps to be a thing of the past. Health care reform is one thing. A year
ago, everyone seemed to want it, but this guy wants to overhaul health
care, medicare, social security, *and* taxes. DOA

Because more people are starting to realize what democrat health care is.
An attempt to skim health care revenue for government excesses in spending
and corruption. Including the democrat need to fund dysfunctional private
corporations with taxpayers taxes.


You forgot the death panels... sheesh.

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