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Chinese are tightening their credit. I thinks Obama's problems just got
worse. Especially if China wants some of that maturing US debt paid off.



What happens if the USA just says, "No"?

Just curious.

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On Jan 24, 3:02*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
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Chinese are tightening their credit. *I thinks Obama's problems just got
worse. *Especially if China wants some of that maturing US debt paid off.


What happens if the USA just says, "No"?

Just curious.

Eisboch


They'll quit selling their products here. That'll show us.
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On Jan 24, 3:02 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message


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Chinese are tightening their credit. I thinks Obama's problems just got
worse. Especially if China wants some of that maturing US debt paid off.


What happens if the USA just says, "No"?


Just curious.


Eisboch


They'll quit selling their products here. *That'll show us.


I dare you to walk around your house and find 10 items you need to live
life the way you do.. Then do an Internet search and see if you could
have those items if the Chinese stopped making them or the parts for
them... OK, you might be able to do it if you tried, but if everyone in
the country was trying to buy a pair of socks from the last company in
the US that made them (BTW I don't think anybody here does) we would run
out pretty quickly.

Scotty


A huge part of the problem is the fact that we don't manufacture much
stuff here. IMO, we need to start making stuff here again. Of
course, we can't when unions think that unskilled labor assemblimg an
outlet strip should earn $60k a year.

And if we all bought socks from the last US company making them,
they'd have a banner year, expand, and we'd have the socks we need and
more jobs to boot.



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On Jan 24, 4:38 pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article f59dda3b-def7-4970-a98a-c5314f862444
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On Jan 24, 3:02 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message


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Chinese are tightening their credit. I thinks Obama's problems just
got
worse. Especially if China wants some of that maturing US debt paid
off.


What happens if the USA just says, "No"?


Just curious.


Eisboch


They'll quit selling their products here. That'll show us.


I dare you to walk around your house and find 10 items you need to live
life the way you do.. Then do an Internet search and see if you could
have those items if the Chinese stopped making them or the parts for
them... OK, you might be able to do it if you tried, but if everyone in
the country was trying to buy a pair of socks from the last company in
the US that made them (BTW I don't think anybody here does) we would run
out pretty quickly.

Scotty


A huge part of the problem is the fact that we don't manufacture much
stuff here. IMO, we need to start making stuff here again. Of


I agree.

course, we can't when unions think that unskilled labor assemblimg an
outlet strip should earn $60k a year.


What's wrong with them thinking that? Nothing. It's called what the market
will bear.

And if we all bought socks from the last US company making them,
they'd have a banner year, expand, and we'd have the socks we need and
more jobs to boot.


Except that GM/Chrysler designed cars that nobody wanted.


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On Jan 24, 9:35*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Jan 24, 4:38 pm, I am Tosk wrote:





In article f59dda3b-def7-4970-a98a-c5314f862444
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On Jan 24, 3:02 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message


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Chinese are tightening their credit. I thinks Obama's problems just
got
worse. Especially if China wants some of that maturing US debt paid
off.


What happens if the USA just says, "No"?


Just curious.


Eisboch


They'll quit selling their products here. That'll show us.


I dare you to walk around your house and find 10 items you need to live
life the way you do.. Then do an Internet search and see if you could
have those items if the Chinese stopped making them or the parts for
them... OK, you might be able to do it if you tried, but if everyone in
the country was trying to buy a pair of socks from the last company in
the US that made them (BTW I don't think anybody here does) we would run
out pretty quickly.


Scotty
A huge part of the problem is the fact that we don't manufacture much
stuff here. *IMO, we need to start making stuff here again. *Of


I agree.

course, we can't when unions think that unskilled labor assemblimg an
outlet strip should earn $60k a year.


What's wrong with them thinking that? Nothing. It's called what the market
will bear.


No, it's called greed. It's not market driven when the company has no
choice but to pay.
Collective bargaining = legalized coercion. In the end the workers
priced themselves right out of a job.


And if we all bought socks from the last US company making them,
they'd have a banner year, expand, and we'd have the socks we need and
more jobs to boot.


Except that GM/Chrysler designed cars that nobody wanted.


That dog won't hunt... if that were true there wouldn't be so many of
them on the road. The companies simply became unprofitable, for many
reasons. One large factor is the cost of labor, AKA unions.

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course, we can't when unions think that unskilled labor assemblimg an
outlet strip should earn $60k a year.


What's wrong with them thinking that? Nothing. It's called what the market
will bear.

The market has already spoken. We go to walmart and buy something from
china because it is cheaper.

And if we all bought socks from the last US company making them,
they'd have a banner year, expand, and we'd have the socks we need and
more jobs to boot.


Except that GM/Chrysler designed cars that nobody wanted.

I hear that a lot but they sold the hell out of their trucks. That was
the cash cow at all of the US manufacturers. The Ford F150 is still
one of the top 3 vehicles in the US, down from #1.
I will agree the assembly of a lot of these cars is crap (squeaks
rattles etc) ... but that brings us back to that $60,000 guy doesn't
it?



I suppose it does, but I don't know what Wal-mart has to do with the auto
industry. There are plenty of foreign cars that are affordable and darn
nice.

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On Jan 24, 4:38*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
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@h34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says...







On Jan 24, 3:02 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message


...


Chinese are tightening their credit. I thinks Obama's problems just got
worse. Especially if China wants some of that maturing US debt paid off.


What happens if the USA just says, "No"?


Just curious.


Eisboch


They'll quit selling their products here. *That'll show us.


I dare you to walk around your house and find 10 items you need to live
life the way you do.. Then do an Internet search and see if you could
have those items if the Chinese stopped making them or the parts for
them... OK, you might be able to do it if you tried, but if everyone in
the country was trying to buy a pair of socks from the last company in
the US that made them (BTW I don't think anybody here does) we would run
out pretty quickly.

Scotty


A huge part of the problem is the fact that we don't manufacture much
stuff here. IMO, we need to start making stuff here again. Of
course, we can't when unions think that unskilled labor assemblimg an
outlet strip should earn $60k a year.

And if we all bought socks from the last US company making them,
they'd have a banner year, expand, and we'd have the socks we need and
more jobs to boot.


They would never keep up with the demand. Did you know that there is a
city in China that basically makes all the retail socks we buy here in
America and most of the rest of the world. That's how manufacturing
works over there, one city (group) one product.. The whole area is all
about socks, millions and millions of socks. Or sock company wouldn't
last a month without spare parts and new machines from China anyway...

We would have no socks. No problem though, we wouldn't have any shoes
either, pants, shirts, toasters, coffeemakers, coats, tin cans for
food...

They could wipe us out so we better keep paying them and keep ourselves
valuable to them..

Scotty
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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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Chinese are tightening their credit. I thinks Obama's problems just got
worse. Especially if China wants some of that maturing US debt paid off.



What happens if the USA just says, "No"?

Just curious.

Eisboch


actually this was discussed in milton friedman's book. he thought it
would be wonderful if other countries sent us cars, boats, food, etc.

and we sent them paper.



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