"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:55:46 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


and the SCOTUS just ****ed us again. they ruled companies can do
whatever they want in terms of paying for campaigns.

this country, courtesy of the right wing, may be doomed

Oh yee of little faith. While I'll agree the SCOTUS decision is the
absolutely wrong one, you are starting to sound like a Republican, all
doom and gloom. If there is one thing I have learned, in my short time
on this planet, is this country is incredibly resilient. It's people are
the hardest working, most creative, people you will find. We have faced
far more difficult challenges than this current SCOTUS. We will survive,
and we will prosper. Hell, eight years of Bush hasn't killed us. Need I
say more?


I hope you're right. I'm an optimistic person, but this ruling is pretty
extreme. It's going to take a lot of Congressional action to nullify it, and
I'm not sure Congress is up for the task.

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On 22/01/2010 5:38 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:55:46 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


and the SCOTUS just ****ed us again. they ruled companies can do
whatever they want in terms of paying for campaigns.

this country, courtesy of the right wing, may be doomed

Oh yee of little faith. While I'll agree the SCOTUS decision is the
absolutely wrong one, you are starting to sound like a Republican, all
doom and gloom. If there is one thing I have learned, in my short time
on this planet, is this country is incredibly resilient. It's people are
the hardest working, most creative, people you will find. We have faced
far more difficult challenges than this current SCOTUS. We will survive,
and we will prosper. Hell, eight years of Bush hasn't killed us. Need I
say more?


I hope you're right. I'm an optimistic person, but this ruling is pretty
extreme. It's going to take a lot of Congressional action to nullify it, and
I'm not sure Congress is up for the task.

Who do you think appoints the SCOTUS? Didn't see any new
liberal-democrat Obama appointees oppose it.

Perhaps we should have a truce. Does not mater be you left or right,
statism and corruption is the enemy here. Governmetn is now large
enough it works for itself and not the people. The US government (any
party) has the most corruption as they have most of the money.

Statism and corruption destroy left and right wealth. Everyone looses.

On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:31:44 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/01/2010 5:38 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:55:46 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


and the SCOTUS just ****ed us again. they ruled companies can do
whatever they want in terms of paying for campaigns.

this country, courtesy of the right wing, may be doomed

Oh yee of little faith. While I'll agree the SCOTUS decision is the
absolutely wrong one, you are starting to sound like a Republican, all
doom and gloom. If there is one thing I have learned, in my short time
on this planet, is this country is incredibly resilient. It's people are
the hardest working, most creative, people you will find. We have faced
far more difficult challenges than this current SCOTUS. We will survive,
and we will prosper. Hell, eight years of Bush hasn't killed us. Need I
say more?


I hope you're right. I'm an optimistic person, but this ruling is pretty
extreme. It's going to take a lot of Congressional action to nullify it, and
I'm not sure Congress is up for the task.

Who do you think appoints the SCOTUS? Didn't see any new
liberal-democrat Obama appointees oppose it.

in the last 30 years, dems have appointed 3 justices. the GOP has
appointed 7.



Perhaps we should have a truce. Does not mater be you left or right,
statism and corruption is the enemy here. Governmetn is now large
enough it works for itself and not the people. The US government (any
party) has the most corruption as they have most of the money.

Statism and corruption destroy left and right wealth. Everyone looses.

it's not that government is too large. it's that it's been captured by
the very people it's supposed to regulate, and has often turned
against the people who give it its power

On 23/01/2010 12:01 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:31:44 -0700,
wrote:

On 22/01/2010 5:38 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:55:46 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


and the SCOTUS just ****ed us again. they ruled companies can do
whatever they want in terms of paying for campaigns.

this country, courtesy of the right wing, may be doomed

Oh yee of little faith. While I'll agree the SCOTUS decision is the
absolutely wrong one, you are starting to sound like a Republican, all
doom and gloom. If there is one thing I have learned, in my short time
on this planet, is this country is incredibly resilient. It's people are
the hardest working, most creative, people you will find. We have faced
far more difficult challenges than this current SCOTUS. We will survive,
and we will prosper. Hell, eight years of Bush hasn't killed us. Need I
say more?


I hope you're right. I'm an optimistic person, but this ruling is pretty
extreme. It's going to take a lot of Congressional action to nullify it, and
I'm not sure Congress is up for the task.

Who do you think appoints the SCOTUS? Didn't see any new
liberal-democrat Obama appointees oppose it.

in the last 30 years, dems have appointed 3 justices. the GOP has
appointed 7.



Perhaps we should have a truce. Does not mater be you left or right,
statism and corruption is the enemy here. Governmetn is now large
enough it works for itself and not the people. The US government (any
party) has the most corruption as they have most of the money.

Statism and corruption destroy left and right wealth. Everyone looses.

it's not that government is too large. it's that it's been captured by
the very people it's supposed to regulate, and has often turned
against the people who give it its power

And because the voters are politically corrupted themselves. "Obama
will pay for my gas and morgage...".... Low morals, low wisdom, low life
entitlement mentality. Willing to sell their American liberties and
mutual self respect to the first pied piper that shows up. Decay of
morality in society. Evvy, greed and corruption now rule.

It isn't going to change any time soon.

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:13:12 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/01/2010 12:01 PM, bpuharic wrote:


it's not that government is too large. it's that it's been captured by
the very people it's supposed to regulate, and has often turned
against the people who give it its power

And because the voters are politically corrupted themselves. "Obama
will pay for my gas and morgage...".

the biggest spender in US history was george bush

again and again you keep telling me obama was president for 8 years

got proof, or do right winger have a short attention span?


.... Low morals, low wisdom, low life
entitlement mentality.

you guys go on about small govt THEN tell us you want the govt to be
in the morals business

another contradiction in right wing theology

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:13:12 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/01/2010 12:01 PM, bpuharic wrote:


it's not that government is too large. it's that it's been captured by
the very people it's supposed to regulate, and has often turned
against the people who give it its power

And because the voters are politically corrupted themselves. "Obama
will pay for my gas and morgage...".

the biggest spender in US history was george bush

again and again you keep telling me obama was president for 8 years

got proof, or do right winger have a short attention span?


... Low morals, low wisdom, low life
entitlement mentality.

you guys go on about small govt THEN tell us you want the govt to be
in the morals business

another contradiction in right wing theology

Why do you say Bush is the Biggest Spender? At the rate that Obama and
Congress are burning through money, they have almost caught up in a year
what it took Congress, both Republican and Democrat controlled versions, and
Bush 8 years to spend. The current people in control are talking another
stimulus bill. They may pass Bush in 18 months. And set records that will
doom us to 3rd world status. Use your boat now, as you will not be able to
afford to at the rate Congress and Obama are piling up debt.

"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:13:12 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/01/2010 12:01 PM, bpuharic wrote:


it's not that government is too large. it's that it's been captured by
the very people it's supposed to regulate, and has often turned
against the people who give it its power

And because the voters are politically corrupted themselves. "Obama
will pay for my gas and morgage...".

the biggest spender in US history was george bush

again and again you keep telling me obama was president for 8 years

got proof, or do right winger have a short attention span?


... Low morals, low wisdom, low life
entitlement mentality.

you guys go on about small govt THEN tell us you want the govt to be
in the morals business

another contradiction in right wing theology

Why do you say Bush is the Biggest Spender? At the rate that Obama and
Congress are burning through money, they have almost caught up in a year
what it took Congress, both Republican and Democrat controlled versions,
and Bush 8 years to spend. The current people in control are talking
another stimulus bill. They may pass Bush in 18 months. And set records
that will doom us to 3rd world status. Use your boat now, as you will not
be able to afford to at the rate Congress and Obama are piling up debt.



Sounds like a paranoid delusion to me...

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Nom=de=Plume

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:11:59 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:13:12 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

you guys go on about small govt THEN tell us you want the govt to be
in the morals business

another contradiction in right wing theology

Why do you say Bush is the Biggest Spender? At the rate that Obama and
Congress are burning through money, they have almost caught up in a year

irrelevant. teh world tried your method.

it was called the '29 crash. how'd that work out for you?

what it took Congress, both Republican and Democrat controlled versions, and
Bush 8 years to spend. The current people in control are talking another
stimulus bill. They may pass Bush in 18 months. And set records that will
doom us to 3rd world status. Use your boat now, as you will not be able to
afford to at the rate Congress and Obama are piling up debt.

of course you prefer 25% unemployment for the middle class. after all,
let 'em eat cake, right?

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 23/01/2010 12:01 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:31:44 -0700,
wrote:

On 22/01/2010 5:38 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:55:46 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


and the SCOTUS just ****ed us again. they ruled companies can do
whatever they want in terms of paying for campaigns.

this country, courtesy of the right wing, may be doomed

Oh yee of little faith. While I'll agree the SCOTUS decision is the
absolutely wrong one, you are starting to sound like a Republican, all
doom and gloom. If there is one thing I have learned, in my short
time
on this planet, is this country is incredibly resilient. It's people
are
the hardest working, most creative, people you will find. We have
faced
far more difficult challenges than this current SCOTUS. We will
survive,
and we will prosper. Hell, eight years of Bush hasn't killed us.
Need I
say more?


I hope you're right. I'm an optimistic person, but this ruling is
pretty
extreme. It's going to take a lot of Congressional action to nullify
it, and
I'm not sure Congress is up for the task.

Who do you think appoints the SCOTUS? Didn't see any new
liberal-democrat Obama appointees oppose it.

in the last 30 years, dems have appointed 3 justices. the GOP has
appointed 7.



Perhaps we should have a truce. Does not mater be you left or right,
statism and corruption is the enemy here. Governmetn is now large
enough it works for itself and not the people. The US government (any
party) has the most corruption as they have most of the money.

Statism and corruption destroy left and right wealth. Everyone looses.

it's not that government is too large. it's that it's been captured by
the very people it's supposed to regulate, and has often turned
against the people who give it its power

And because the voters are politically corrupted themselves. "Obama will
pay for my gas and morgage...".... Low morals, low wisdom, low life
entitlement mentality. Willing to sell their American liberties and
mutual self respect to the first pied piper that shows up. Decay of
morality in society. Evvy, greed and corruption now rule.

It isn't going to change any time soon.


It isn't going to change in your mind... angry expat, racist.

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Nom=de=Plume

wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:38:15 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


I hope you're right. I'm an optimistic person, but this ruling is pretty
extreme. It's going to take a lot of Congressional action to nullify it,
and
I'm not sure Congress is up for the task.

Since this is a court decision it might take a constitutional
amendment to fix it. I haven't read the decision yet but it might say
they have a constitutional right to buy politicians. They have been
doing it right along but now it is sanctioned by the court.


They've been doing it with at least some restrictions. Now, currently,
they've wiped those out. Something needs to get done, but I'm not sure an
amendment is the way. Maybe. It's not easy to do, esp. with the current
climate in DC.

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Nom=de=Plume