On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:17:10 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:12:36 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:55:39 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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I believe one of the US ships is going to leave for Haiti shortly.

We are sending a hospital ship and the carrier Carl Vincent with a
bunch of helicopters.
I think they also should send a cruise ship or two to evacuate all the
foreigners. The airport is still basically down although they are
still taking some flights.

Ground transportation is also a problem. Today they were saying the
airport was full of stuff coming off planes but they had no way to get
it into town.

They are sending a bunch of military people there to try to maintain
some similance of order. I hope that doesn't get ugly. That always
scares me. This could degrade to another Baghdad real fast

The looting may be a problem, but Haiti is not a Muslim country, so it
shouldn't turn into another Baghdad.

I would like to have seen a bunch of C-17s with bucket loaders and
dump trucks aboard. It looks like that's what's needed right now,
along with water and food of course.

More Brian Williams and Anderson Coopers are not the solution, that's
for damn sure. I'm sure Geraldo Rivera and Amanpour are right behind.
Wonder when Olberman will show up.
--


Well, we know you're certainly not going to show up... doubtful you'll make
a financial contribution either. I'm sure you have limited means, but even a
dollar or three would help.

If you'll recall, sweetheart, I put up the Red Cross link when you
were asking if our country would do anything.

Get your head out of whatever orifice you tuck it in.
--

America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask
or slammer's hemorrhoids..

John H

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:48:23 -0800 (PST), Loogypicker
wrote:

On Jan 14, 2:31*pm, Jack wrote:
On Jan 14, 11:04*am, Loogypicker wrote:





On Jan 14, 2:10*am, wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:56:46 -0800, "nom=de=plume"

wrote:
wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:55:39 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

I believe one of the US ships is going to leave for Haiti shortly.

We are sending a hospital ship and the carrier Carl Vincent with a
bunch of helicopters.
I think they also should send a cruise ship or two to evacuate all the
foreigners. The airport is still basically down although they are
still taking some flights.

I was thinking that they should send a cruise ship also, but not for
evacuation necessarily nor at first. I believe cruise ships volunteered
during Katrina... if I'm remembering that right.

Actually these Haitians are more resourceful than the people in NOLA.

And they are getting aid quicker to Haiti than they did in NOLA

The leaders of Haiti are smarter than the leaders of NOLA were. *Plus
there's no pesky federal law concerning state's rights to be obeyed by
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Oh, yes, you can tell by their stringent building codes, their
excellent work in getting their economy back on track, their work on
keeping crime in check and their work in erradicating AIDS.

Why are you coming down so hard on the NOLA politicians. Hell, they
were Democrats. I'd think you'd be defending them, not talking about
how friggin' stupid they were. Perhaps they'll elect a Republican
mayor who will do something about their economy, crime, and their AIDS
problem. Maybe he'll do something about their education and unwed
mother problems also.
--

America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask
or slammer's hemorrhoids..

John H

On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:59:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 15, 2:47*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Jan 15, 12:10 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:





wrote in message

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On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:59:29 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:18:54 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

According to Brian Williams, there is no functioning government in
Haiti. I suppose they were pretty bad before and I imagine that was
not helped when a significant number of the bureaucrats are missing
since their building went down.

I suspect the rapid response may have something to do with the
number
of Haitians in this country (close to a half million) and a lot are
in
swing states.

That's completely ridiculous and racist. It's about people dying,
while
Rush
sits on his thumbs and proclaims it's an Obama ploy and don't give
money
to
help them.

It may be ridiculous but hardly racist since both groups of victims
are predominantly black.

As though that's the reason Obama responded with dispatch. Like I
said....

You are the only one who brought up race. If this was in Memphis he
would be reacting quickly too. They are all trying to say this is no
Katrina and Obama is finally getting a chance to do something he can
succeed at where Bush failed.

"Finally getting a chance"??? Any president would act without regard to
where or the color of their skin. Even Bush reacted, albeit slowly. You
said, ""redominantly black." Those are your words not mine.

My only thought about the political power of the Haitians is how the
Florida pols are acting. We have the largest Haitian population in the
US here and that is not lost on Bill Nelson. (Our D senator). They
would really like to replace LeMieux, the Martinez seat filler, with
another D.

Political power has nothing to do with it. This isn't a political issue,
it's a humanitarian crisis.

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Every international issue is political. Or, that's what it turns out
to be....

Perhaps, but in this case we're talking primarily about humanitarian aid.

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- Show quoted text -

And just watch. It will turn political.

Just look at what happened right here. Harry and the plum questioning
whether and how much individuals did or didn't give to help the folks
in Haiti, as though it's any of their business.
--

America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask
or slammer's hemorrhoids..

John H

John H wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:17:10 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:12:36 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:55:39 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


I believe one of the US ships is going to leave for Haiti shortly.
We are sending a hospital ship and the carrier Carl Vincent with a
bunch of helicopters.
I think they also should send a cruise ship or two to evacuate all the
foreigners. The airport is still basically down although they are
still taking some flights.

Ground transportation is also a problem. Today they were saying the
airport was full of stuff coming off planes but they had no way to get
it into town.

They are sending a bunch of military people there to try to maintain
some similance of order. I hope that doesn't get ugly. That always
scares me. This could degrade to another Baghdad real fast
The looting may be a problem, but Haiti is not a Muslim country, so it
shouldn't turn into another Baghdad.

I would like to have seen a bunch of C-17s with bucket loaders and
dump trucks aboard. It looks like that's what's needed right now,
along with water and food of course.

More Brian Williams and Anderson Coopers are not the solution, that's
for damn sure. I'm sure Geraldo Rivera and Amanpour are right behind.
Wonder when Olberman will show up.
--

Well, we know you're certainly not going to show up... doubtful you'll make
a financial contribution either. I'm sure you have limited means, but even a
dollar or three would help.

If you'll recall, sweetheart, I put up the Red Cross link when you
were asking if our country would do anything.

Get your head out of whatever orifice you tuck it in.

They could use a bale of upscale used clothing, I'm sure.

HK wrote:
John H wrote:
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:17:10 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:12:36 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:55:39 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


I believe one of the US ships is going to leave for Haiti shortly.
We are sending a hospital ship and the carrier Carl Vincent with a
bunch of helicopters.
I think they also should send a cruise ship or two to evacuate all the
foreigners. The airport is still basically down although they are
still taking some flights.

Ground transportation is also a problem. Today they were saying the
airport was full of stuff coming off planes but they had no way to get
it into town.

They are sending a bunch of military people there to try to maintain
some similance of order. I hope that doesn't get ugly. That always
scares me. This could degrade to another Baghdad real fast
The looting may be a problem, but Haiti is not a Muslim country, so it
shouldn't turn into another Baghdad.

I would like to have seen a bunch of C-17s with bucket loaders and
dump trucks aboard. It looks like that's what's needed right now,
along with water and food of course.

More Brian Williams and Anderson Coopers are not the solution, that's
for damn sure. I'm sure Geraldo Rivera and Amanpour are right behind.
Wonder when Olberman will show up.
--

Well, we know you're certainly not going to show up... doubtful
you'll make a financial contribution either. I'm sure you have
limited means, but even a dollar or three would help.

If you'll recall, sweetheart, I put up the Red Cross link when you
were asking if our country would do anything.
Get your head out of whatever orifice you tuck it in.

They could use a bale of upscale used clothing, I'm sure.

it could be worse, John could be Canadian

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Jan 15, 2:47 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Jan 15, 12:10 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:





wrote in message

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On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:59:29 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:18:54 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

According to Brian Williams, there is no functioning government in
Haiti. I suppose they were pretty bad before and I imagine that
was
not helped when a significant number of the bureaucrats are
missing
since their building went down.

I suspect the rapid response may have something to do with the
number
of Haitians in this country (close to a half million) and a lot
are
in
swing states.

That's completely ridiculous and racist. It's about people dying,
while
Rush
sits on his thumbs and proclaims it's an Obama ploy and don't give
money
to
help them.

It may be ridiculous but hardly racist since both groups of victims
are predominantly black.

As though that's the reason Obama responded with dispatch. Like I
said....

You are the only one who brought up race. If this was in Memphis he
would be reacting quickly too. They are all trying to say this is no
Katrina and Obama is finally getting a chance to do something he can
succeed at where Bush failed.

"Finally getting a chance"??? Any president would act without regard to
where or the color of their skin. Even Bush reacted, albeit slowly. You
said, ""redominantly black." Those are your words not mine.

My only thought about the political power of the Haitians is how the
Florida pols are acting. We have the largest Haitian population in the
US here and that is not lost on Bill Nelson. (Our D senator). They
would really like to replace LeMieux, the Martinez seat filler, with
another D.

Political power has nothing to do with it. This isn't a political issue,
it's a humanitarian crisis.

--
Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Every international issue is political. Or, that's what it turns out
to be....

Perhaps, but in this case we're talking primarily about humanitarian aid.

--
Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And just watch. It will turn political.


Talk to the others here who are trying to do that..

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"John H" wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:59:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 15, 2:47 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Jan 15, 12:10 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:





wrote in message

.. .

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:59:29 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:18:54 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

According to Brian Williams, there is no functioning government
in
Haiti. I suppose they were pretty bad before and I imagine that
was
not helped when a significant number of the bureaucrats are
missing
since their building went down.

I suspect the rapid response may have something to do with the
number
of Haitians in this country (close to a half million) and a lot
are
in
swing states.

That's completely ridiculous and racist. It's about people dying,
while
Rush
sits on his thumbs and proclaims it's an Obama ploy and don't give
money
to
help them.

It may be ridiculous but hardly racist since both groups of
victims
are predominantly black.

As though that's the reason Obama responded with dispatch. Like I
said....

You are the only one who brought up race. If this was in Memphis he
would be reacting quickly too. They are all trying to say this is no
Katrina and Obama is finally getting a chance to do something he can
succeed at where Bush failed.

"Finally getting a chance"??? Any president would act without regard
to
where or the color of their skin. Even Bush reacted, albeit slowly.
You
said, ""redominantly black." Those are your words not mine.

My only thought about the political power of the Haitians is how the
Florida pols are acting. We have the largest Haitian population in
the
US here and that is not lost on Bill Nelson. (Our D senator). They
would really like to replace LeMieux, the Martinez seat filler, with
another D.

Political power has nothing to do with it. This isn't a political
issue,
it's a humanitarian crisis.

--
Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Every international issue is political. Or, that's what it turns out
to be....

Perhaps, but in this case we're talking primarily about humanitarian
aid.

--
Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And just watch. It will turn political.

Just look at what happened right here. Harry and the plum questioning
whether and how much individuals did or didn't give to help the folks
in Haiti, as though it's any of their business.
--

America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask
or slammer's hemorrhoids..

John H


Please show me where I questioned how much someone did or didn't give.
You're a liar... that's nothing new.

--
Nom=de=Plume

"John H" wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:17:10 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:12:36 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:55:39 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



I believe one of the US ships is going to leave for Haiti shortly.

We are sending a hospital ship and the carrier Carl Vincent with a
bunch of helicopters.
I think they also should send a cruise ship or two to evacuate all the
foreigners. The airport is still basically down although they are
still taking some flights.

Ground transportation is also a problem. Today they were saying the
airport was full of stuff coming off planes but they had no way to get
it into town.

They are sending a bunch of military people there to try to maintain
some similance of order. I hope that doesn't get ugly. That always
scares me. This could degrade to another Baghdad real fast

The looting may be a problem, but Haiti is not a Muslim country, so it
shouldn't turn into another Baghdad.

I would like to have seen a bunch of C-17s with bucket loaders and
dump trucks aboard. It looks like that's what's needed right now,
along with water and food of course.

More Brian Williams and Anderson Coopers are not the solution, that's
for damn sure. I'm sure Geraldo Rivera and Amanpour are right behind.
Wonder when Olberman will show up.
--


Well, we know you're certainly not going to show up... doubtful you'll
make
a financial contribution either. I'm sure you have limited means, but even
a
dollar or three would help.

If you'll recall, sweetheart, I put up the Red Cross link when you
were asking if our country would do anything.

Get your head out of whatever orifice you tuck it in.
--

America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask
or slammer's hemorrhoids..

John H


And I asked if you needed help filling it out. I don't think you answered.
BTW, you've claimed several times that you've plonked me, yet you keep
replying to my posts. How is that?


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Nom=de=Plume

On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:07:15 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:59:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 15, 2:47 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Jan 15, 12:10 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:





wrote in message

.. .

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:59:29 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:18:54 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

According to Brian Williams, there is no functioning government
in
Haiti. I suppose they were pretty bad before and I imagine that
was
not helped when a significant number of the bureaucrats are
missing
since their building went down.

I suspect the rapid response may have something to do with the
number
of Haitians in this country (close to a half million) and a lot
are
in
swing states.

That's completely ridiculous and racist. It's about people dying,
while
Rush
sits on his thumbs and proclaims it's an Obama ploy and don't give
money
to
help them.

It may be ridiculous but hardly racist since both groups of
victims
are predominantly black.

As though that's the reason Obama responded with dispatch. Like I
said....

You are the only one who brought up race. If this was in Memphis he
would be reacting quickly too. They are all trying to say this is no
Katrina and Obama is finally getting a chance to do something he can
succeed at where Bush failed.

"Finally getting a chance"??? Any president would act without regard
to
where or the color of their skin. Even Bush reacted, albeit slowly.
You
said, ""redominantly black." Those are your words not mine.

My only thought about the political power of the Haitians is how the
Florida pols are acting. We have the largest Haitian population in
the
US here and that is not lost on Bill Nelson. (Our D senator). They
would really like to replace LeMieux, the Martinez seat filler, with
another D.

Political power has nothing to do with it. This isn't a political
issue,
it's a humanitarian crisis.

--
Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Every international issue is political. Or, that's what it turns out
to be....

Perhaps, but in this case we're talking primarily about humanitarian
aid.

--
Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And just watch. It will turn political.

Just look at what happened right here. Harry and the plum questioning
whether and how much individuals did or didn't give to help the folks
in Haiti, as though it's any of their business.
--

America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask
or slammer's hemorrhoids..

John H


Please show me where I questioned how much someone did or didn't give.
You're a liar... that's nothing new.

You're so sickeningly innocent...

"Well, we know you're certainly not going to show up... doubtful
you'll make a financial contribution either. I'm sure you have limited
means, but even a dollar or three would help."

What I give or don't give is none of your business. Make your own
donation and hush.
--

America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask
or slammer's hemorrhoids..

John H

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:07:15 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:59:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 15, 2:47 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...
On Jan 15, 12:10 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:





wrote in message

.. .

On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:59:29 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:18:54 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

According to Brian Williams, there is no functioning
government
in
Haiti. I suppose they were pretty bad before and I imagine
that
was
not helped when a significant number of the bureaucrats are
missing
since their building went down.

I suspect the rapid response may have something to do with the
number
of Haitians in this country (close to a half million) and a
lot
are
in
swing states.

That's completely ridiculous and racist. It's about people
dying,
while
Rush
sits on his thumbs and proclaims it's an Obama ploy and don't
give
money
to
help them.

It may be ridiculous but hardly racist since both groups of
victims
are predominantly black.

As though that's the reason Obama responded with dispatch. Like I
said....

You are the only one who brought up race. If this was in Memphis
he
would be reacting quickly too. They are all trying to say this is
no
Katrina and Obama is finally getting a chance to do something he
can
succeed at where Bush failed.

"Finally getting a chance"??? Any president would act without regard
to
where or the color of their skin. Even Bush reacted, albeit slowly.
You
said, ""redominantly black." Those are your words not mine.

My only thought about the political power of the Haitians is how
the
Florida pols are acting. We have the largest Haitian population in
the
US here and that is not lost on Bill Nelson. (Our D senator). They
would really like to replace LeMieux, the Martinez seat filler,
with
another D.

Political power has nothing to do with it. This isn't a political
issue,
it's a humanitarian crisis.

--
Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Every international issue is political. Or, that's what it turns out
to be....

Perhaps, but in this case we're talking primarily about humanitarian
aid.

--
Nom=de=Plume- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And just watch. It will turn political.

Just look at what happened right here. Harry and the plum questioning
whether and how much individuals did or didn't give to help the folks
in Haiti, as though it's any of their business.
--

America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask
or slammer's hemorrhoids..

John H


Please show me where I questioned how much someone did or didn't give.
You're a liar... that's nothing new.

You're so sickeningly innocent...

"Well, we know you're certainly not going to show up... doubtful
you'll make a financial contribution either. I'm sure you have limited
means, but even a dollar or three would help."

What I give or don't give is none of your business. Make your own
donation and hush.


As I said, I didn't question how much you did or didn't give. I offered a
suggestion. I don't care what you do. You're not qualified to tell me to
"hush."

--
Nom=de=Plume