On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:52:14 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

Studies show not much change in crashes from a 0.1 to a 0.08 level. I am
for penalties, but making it a mandatory felony is as stupid as a you get.
And the hardcore drunks drive better at a 0.1 than they do at a 0.0. The
body, I think, suppresses a lot of chemical production that the alcohol
provides. Those alcoholics that I have known need a drink to get going in
the morning. When you can drink a pint and show little effect, you have a
problem

Well, you say that, but it's not true. You may not show the effects,
but they are there. And I know - believe me, I know. You're talking
to somebody who once drank a bottle of Aqua Velva to get rid of the
shakes enough to drive to the convience store to get a bottle of
Boone's Farm to be able to get to the package store for a case of beer
and a quart of Valu-Rite bourbon. :)

It was shortly after that that I understood that I had a problem - so
to speak. :)

And I'm sorry, but it's just not true that a drunk can drive better at
..1 than .0 - they may not show the effects as readily, but they are
blitzed. Very few people metabolize alcohol efficiently enough to
avoid the effects - something like 1 out of every 15 million or so I'm
given to believe.

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:52:14 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

Studies show not much change in crashes from a 0.1 to a 0.08 level. I am
for penalties, but making it a mandatory felony is as stupid as a you get.
And the hardcore drunks drive better at a 0.1 than they do at a 0.0. The
body, I think, suppresses a lot of chemical production that the alcohol
provides. Those alcoholics that I have known need a drink to get going in
the morning. When you can drink a pint and show little effect, you have a
problem

Well, you say that, but it's not true. You may not show the effects,
but they are there. And I know - believe me, I know. You're talking
to somebody who once drank a bottle of Aqua Velva to get rid of the
shakes enough to drive to the convience store to get a bottle of
Boone's Farm to be able to get to the package store for a case of beer
and a quart of Valu-Rite bourbon. :)

It was shortly after that that I understood that I had a problem - so
to speak. :)

And I'm sorry, but it's just not true that a drunk can drive better at
.1 than .0 - they may not show the effects as readily, but they are
blitzed. Very few people metabolize alcohol efficiently enough to
avoid the effects - something like 1 out of every 15 million or so I'm
given to believe.


But, since Bill believes it to be true, then it must be true.

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Nom=de=Plume

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 10:52:14 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

Studies show not much change in crashes from a 0.1 to a 0.08 level. I am
for penalties, but making it a mandatory felony is as stupid as a you get.
And the hardcore drunks drive better at a 0.1 than they do at a 0.0. The
body, I think, suppresses a lot of chemical production that the alcohol
provides. Those alcoholics that I have known need a drink to get going in
the morning. When you can drink a pint and show little effect, you have a
problem

Well, you say that, but it's not true. You may not show the effects,
but they are there. And I know - believe me, I know. You're talking
to somebody who once drank a bottle of Aqua Velva to get rid of the
shakes enough to drive to the convience store to get a bottle of
Boone's Farm to be able to get to the package store for a case of beer
and a quart of Valu-Rite bourbon. :)

It was shortly after that that I understood that I had a problem - so
to speak. :)

It sounds to me that the problem was you needed to find a better store
that had Aqua Velva, Boone's Farm and rot gut bourbon. It would have
saved you the trouble of driving all over town.



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Imagine being such a worthless p.o.s. that you post on usenet using
someone else's ID.

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:11:12 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Well, you say that, but it's not true. You may not show the effects,
but they are there. And I know - believe me, I know. You're talking to
somebody who once drank a bottle of Aqua Velva to get rid of the shakes
enough to drive to the convience store to get a bottle of Boone's Farm
to be able to get to the package store for a case of beer and a quart of
Valu-Rite bourbon. :)

It was shortly after that that I understood that I had a problem - so to
speak. :)

Whew, glad you turned it around. That sort of drinking doesn't lend
itself to longevity.

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:05:40 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:11:12 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


Well, you say that, but it's not true. You may not show the effects,
but they are there. And I know - believe me, I know. You're talking to
somebody who once drank a bottle of Aqua Velva to get rid of the shakes
enough to drive to the convience store to get a bottle of Boone's Farm
to be able to get to the package store for a case of beer and a quart of
Valu-Rite bourbon. :)

It was shortly after that that I understood that I had a problem - so to
speak. :)

Whew, glad you turned it around. That sort of drinking doesn't lend
itself to longevity.

My boss at the time told me I was a great employee and one of the best
he'd ever hired, but he couldn't afford to keep me anymore - the
choice was take a six month leave of absence in a boot camp style
rehab program he knew about and if I made it, my job would be waiting
when I got back. If I didn't at least try - goodbye.

Owe that man my life.

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:30:00 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


My boss at the time told me I was a great employee and one of the best
he'd ever hired, but he couldn't afford to keep me anymore - the choice
was take a six month leave of absence in a boot camp style rehab program
he knew about and if I made it, my job would be waiting when I got back.
If I didn't at least try - goodbye.

Owe that man my life.

Great boss, there's quite a few that wouldn't have bothered. He may have
forced the choice, but you made it, and stuck with it. I had two friends
that couldn't make that choice, one died of a burst esophagus, another
they found in a snowbank.

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:50:43 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:30:00 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


My boss at the time told me I was a great employee and one of the best
he'd ever hired, but he couldn't afford to keep me anymore - the choice
was take a six month leave of absence in a boot camp style rehab program
he knew about and if I made it, my job would be waiting when I got back.
If I didn't at least try - goodbye.

Owe that man my life.

Great boss, there's quite a few that wouldn't have bothered. He may have
forced the choice, but you made it, and stuck with it. I had two friends
that couldn't make that choice, one died of a burst esophagus, another
they found in a snowbank.

He was a good guy and had his own battle with demon rum when he was
younger so he understood it. The key was he knew it was up to me - I
had to take responsibility for myself. Changed my whole outlook on
life.

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:50:43 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:30:00 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


My boss at the time told me I was a great employee and one of the best
he'd ever hired, but he couldn't afford to keep me anymore - the choice
was take a six month leave of absence in a boot camp style rehab program
he knew about and if I made it, my job would be waiting when I got back.
If I didn't at least try - goodbye.

Owe that man my life.

Great boss, there's quite a few that wouldn't have bothered. He may have
forced the choice, but you made it, and stuck with it. I had two friends
that couldn't make that choice, one died of a burst esophagus, another
they found in a snowbank.

He was a good guy and had his own battle with demon rum when he was
younger so he understood it. The key was he knew it was up to me - I
had to take responsibility for myself. Changed my whole outlook on
life.


Congratulations on having the willpower to tackle that disease.
Lots of good people fall to the wayside.

On Dec 15, 8:14*am, "Don White" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:50:43 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:30:00 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

My boss at the time told me I was a great employee and one of the best
he'd ever hired, but he couldn't afford to keep me anymore - the choice
was take a six month leave of absence in a boot camp style rehab program
he knew about and if I made it, my job would be waiting when I got back.
*If I didn't at least try - goodbye.

Owe that man my life.

Great boss, there's quite a few that wouldn't have bothered. *He may have
forced the choice, but you made it, and stuck with it. *I had two friends
that couldn't make that choice, one died of a burst esophagus, another
they found in a snowbank.

He was a good guy and had his own battle with demon rum when he was
younger so he understood it. *The key was he knew it was up to me - I
had to take responsibility for myself. *Changed my whole outlook on
life.

Congratulations on having the willpower to tackle that disease.
Lots of good people fall to the wayside.- Hide quoted text -

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Time to have a talk with your son?

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:07:16 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:50:43 -0600, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:30:00 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:


My boss at the time told me I was a great employee and one of the best
he'd ever hired, but he couldn't afford to keep me anymore - the choice
was take a six month leave of absence in a boot camp style rehab program
he knew about and if I made it, my job would be waiting when I got back.
If I didn't at least try - goodbye.

Owe that man my life.

Great boss, there's quite a few that wouldn't have bothered. He may have
forced the choice, but you made it, and stuck with it. I had two friends
that couldn't make that choice, one died of a burst esophagus, another
they found in a snowbank.

He was a good guy and had his own battle with demon rum when he was
younger so he understood it. The key was he knew it was up to me - I
had to take responsibility for myself. Changed my whole outlook on
life.

Some of us bottom out sooner than others, thank God. One of my
brothers is back into it again, but after years of walking his
tightrope with him, I'm going to let him do it himself this time.
Unless he asks for help, of course.
--

John H