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Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:51:02 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message news On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message om... This politics stuff is getting kind of fun. When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition. What happened next is just RICH. Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment. "The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices." "It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for everybody else, we ought to be leading by example." But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of the amendment, he got the cold shoulder. So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment with a unanimous consent vote. Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all about enrolling in this plan. Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on the public option as I am. Franken: Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we should go on the public option. She said absolutely. Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved. From Julie Gulden on Kos. Franken must have been born in Kenya. Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one move further on the board before they moved their man. Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown. Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit. So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet? -- Nom=de=Plume Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time. That's not true, co-sponsors can sign on at any time. The Republicans didn't want it to happen. They were bluffing. You really need to have a talk with yourself about reality. Your positioning rivals Dana Perino's. |
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Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
"CalifBill" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message news On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message om... This politics stuff is getting kind of fun. When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition. What happened next is just RICH. Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment. "The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices." "It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for everybody else, we ought to be leading by example." But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of the amendment, he got the cold shoulder. So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment with a unanimous consent vote. Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all about enrolling in this plan. Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on the public option as I am. Franken: Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we should go on the public option. She said absolutely. Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved. From Julie Gulden on Kos. Franken must have been born in Kenya. Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one move further on the board before they moved their man. Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown. Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit. So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet? -- Nom=de=Plume Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time. Nope.... Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading or on final passage. The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any co-sponsor who is being added. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message news On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message news:slrjh51pk4sqc75eqjro9n9bqv7gsptjso@4ax. com... This politics stuff is getting kind of fun. When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition. What happened next is just RICH. Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment. "The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices." "It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for everybody else, we ought to be leading by example." But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of the amendment, he got the cold shoulder. So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment with a unanimous consent vote. Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all about enrolling in this plan. Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on the public option as I am. Franken: Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we should go on the public option. She said absolutely. Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved. From Julie Gulden on Kos. Franken must have been born in Kenya. Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one move further on the board before they moved their man. Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown. Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit. So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet? -- Nom=de=Plume Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time. Nope.... Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading or on final passage. The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any co-sponsor who is being added. -- Nom=de=Plume At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill. Seems as if that rule is no more. |
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Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message news On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message news:slrjh51pk4sqc75eqjro9n9bqv7gsptjso@4ax .com... This politics stuff is getting kind of fun. When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition. What happened next is just RICH. Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment. "The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices." "It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for everybody else, we ought to be leading by example." But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of the amendment, he got the cold shoulder. So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment with a unanimous consent vote. Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all about enrolling in this plan. Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on the public option as I am. Franken: Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we should go on the public option. She said absolutely. Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved. From Julie Gulden on Kos. Franken must have been born in Kenya. Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one move further on the board before they moved their man. Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown. Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit. So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet? -- Nom=de=Plume Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time. Nope.... Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading or on final passage. The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any co-sponsor who is being added. -- Nom=de=Plume At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill. Seems as if that rule is no more. I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps you should look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message news On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message news:slrjh51pk4sqc75eqjro9n9bqv7gsptjso@4a x.com... This politics stuff is getting kind of fun. When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition. What happened next is just RICH. Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment. "The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices." "It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for everybody else, we ought to be leading by example." But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of the amendment, he got the cold shoulder. So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment with a unanimous consent vote. Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all about enrolling in this plan. Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on the public option as I am. Franken: Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we should go on the public option. She said absolutely. Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved. From Julie Gulden on Kos. Franken must have been born in Kenya. Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one move further on the board before they moved their man. Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown. Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit. So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet? -- Nom=de=Plume Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time. Nope.... Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading or on final passage. The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any co-sponsor who is being added. -- Nom=de=Plume c. Seems as if that rule is no more. I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps you should look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume I understand you have reading comprehension problems. Let me repeat: "At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill" |
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Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
H the K (I post with a Mac) wrote:
jps wrote: This politics stuff is getting kind of fun. When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition. What happened next is just RICH. Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment. "The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices." "It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for everybody else, we ought to be leading by example." But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of the amendment, he got the cold shoulder. So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment with a unanimous consent vote. Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all about enrolling in this plan. Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on the public option as I am. Franken: Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we should go on the public option. She said absolutely. Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved. From Julie Gulden on Kos. Love it. Franken continues to delight. OOOps I shouldn't have said that. People will think I'm gay. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, achmed the sock puppet,or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message news On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message news:slrjh51pk4sqc75eqjro9n9bqv7gsptjso@4 ax.com... This politics stuff is getting kind of fun. When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition. What happened next is just RICH. Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment. "The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices." "It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for everybody else, we ought to be leading by example." But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of the amendment, he got the cold shoulder. So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment with a unanimous consent vote. Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all about enrolling in this plan. Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on the public option as I am. Franken: Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we should go on the public option. She said absolutely. Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved. From Julie Gulden on Kos. Franken must have been born in Kenya. Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one move further on the board before they moved their man. Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown. Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit. So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet? -- Nom=de=Plume Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time. Nope.... Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading or on final passage. The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any co-sponsor who is being added. -- Nom=de=Plume c. Seems as if that rule is no more. I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps you should look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume I understand you have reading comprehension problems. Let me repeat: "At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill" No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway: "Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the Senate." There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's what happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why wouldn't a Senator want a co-sponsor? I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be denying reality. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message news On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message news:slrjh51pk4sqc75eqjro9n9bqv7gsptjso@ 4ax.com... This politics stuff is getting kind of fun. When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition. What happened next is just RICH. Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment. "The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices." "It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for everybody else, we ought to be leading by example." But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of the amendment, he got the cold shoulder. So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment with a unanimous consent vote. Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all about enrolling in this plan. Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on the public option as I am. Franken: Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we should go on the public option. She said absolutely. Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved. From Julie Gulden on Kos. Franken must have been born in Kenya. Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one move further on the board before they moved their man. Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown. Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit. So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet? -- Nom=de=Plume Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time. Nope.... Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading or on final passage. The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any co-sponsor who is being added. -- Nom=de=Plume c. Seems as if that rule is no more. I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps you should look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume I understand you have reading comprehension problems. Let me repeat: "At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill" No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway: "Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the Senate." There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's what happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why wouldn't a Senator want a co-sponsor? I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be denying reality. -- Nom=de=Plume Mental problems? That seems to be you. As I reported the rules. "At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill" |
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Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message news On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message news:slrjh51pk4sqc75eqjro9n9bqv7gsptjso @4ax.com... This politics stuff is getting kind of fun. When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition. What happened next is just RICH. Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment. "The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices." "It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for everybody else, we ought to be leading by example." But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of the amendment, he got the cold shoulder. So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment with a unanimous consent vote. Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all about enrolling in this plan. Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on the public option as I am. Franken: Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we should go on the public option. She said absolutely. Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved. From Julie Gulden on Kos. Franken must have been born in Kenya. Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one move further on the board before they moved their man. Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown. Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit. So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet? -- Nom=de=Plume Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time. Nope.... Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading or on final passage. The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any co-sponsor who is being added. -- Nom=de=Plume c. Seems as if that rule is no more. I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps you should look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume I understand you have reading comprehension problems. Let me repeat: "At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill" No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway: "Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the Senate." There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's what happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why wouldn't a Senator want a co-sponsor? I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be denying reality. -- Nom=de=Plume Mental problems? That seems to be you. As I reported the rules. "At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill" As I said, there are other ways to add co-sponsorship, such as by unanimous consent. If you're ignorant of the procedure, read on.... A Senator may introduce a bill or resolution for himself and as many other Senators as may see fit to join him; in one case all 96 Senators joined each other on the same bill. Unanimous consent is required for any Senator to add his name to a bill or resolution which has been introduced or submitted or to add the names of additional Senators as co-sponsors of a bill when the bill is next printed or reported. http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/04/...r-public-plan/ -- Nom=de=Plume |
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Excellent Republican amendment to HCR
Bill McKee wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "CalifBill" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message news On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:32:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... This politics stuff is getting kind of fun. When Sen. Vitter and Sen. Coburn introduced a health care amendment that would require all senators and representatives to be enrolled in the public option, they expected the Democrats to rise in opposition. What happened next is just RICH. Julie Gulden's diary :: :: On Thursday, thinking Democratic senators would balk at the idea, Sens. David Vitter (R-La.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) introduced the gimmick health-care amendment. "The idea, broad-brush, is that whatever government option is in the bill, every senator and every representative should be enrolled in it," Vitter told The Hill. "No other possibilities, no other choices." "It's called leadership," Coburn said. "If it's good enough for everybody else, we ought to be leading by example." But Democrats called their bluff, and the Republicans wouldn't allow it. When Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) tried to become a co-sponsor of the amendment, he got the cold shoulder. So Brown, joined by Sens. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md.), and Al Franken (D-Minn.), forced his way onto the amendment with a unanimous consent vote. Franken: I rise and ask for unanimous consent to be a co-sponsor to Senator Coburn's Amendment #2789 requiring all members of congress to enroll in the public option. I am pleased to co-sponsor this because I strongly support the public option and would have no qualms at all about enrolling in this plan. Brown: And it's a little curious that some of these, these two sponsors are so much against the public option but they want to pass this amendment. It sounds to me like you are as serious about going on the public option as I am. Franken: Well, I talked to my wife Franny, we've been married 34 years now, I talked to her a couple weeks ago and I said if this thing passes we should go on the public option. She said absolutely. Presider of the Senate: Without objection Senator Franken's motion to be a co-sponsor of the amendment is approved. From Julie Gulden on Kos. Franken must have been born in Kenya. Coburn and Vitter are both idiots. They didn't bother to look one move further on the board before they moved their man. Kudos to Franken and Sherrod Brown. Lets look at the the item. The Republicans come up with a great idea. The Dem's say let us take a lot of the credit for this idea. And the Dem majority goes along with the theft of credit. So wanting to co-sponor a bill is "theft of credit" on your planet? -- Nom=de=Plume Normally the cosponsors sign on ahead of time. Nope.... Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the Senate. Co-sponsors may also be added to a Senate bill or a House bill immediately following adoption of the bill on third reading or on final passage. The addition of any co-sponsors shall be subject to the approval of the Senate prime sponsor of the bill and the approval of any co-sponsor who is being added. -- Nom=de=Plume c. Seems as if that rule is no more. I know that the word "may" is difficult for you to understand. Perhaps you should look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume I understand you have reading comprehension problems. Let me repeat: "At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill" No need to repeat, oh well... here it is anyway: "Co-sponsors may be added to a bill prior to introduction of the bill in the Senate." There are obviously other ways to be a co-sponsor, since that's what happened. So, pray tell, if the amendment was so wonderful, why wouldn't a Senator want a co-sponsor? I'm not sure what mental problems you have, since you seem to be denying reality. -- Nom=de=Plume Mental problems? That seems to be you. As I reported the rules. "At the approval of the prime sponsor of the bill" Bill, Bill, Bill...there's more than one way for co-sponsors to "attach" themselves to a bit of legislation or an amendment to same. What happened here, and what everyone realizes (except you), is that two of your boys, neither of whom are among the brightest boys in the Senate, introduced an amendment they thought would either help kill off health care legislation or embarrass the Democrats. What they did not expect was that the Democrats would embrace the idea. In other words, their little idea backfired on Vitter and Coburn. Perhaps Vitter ought to stick to whoremongering and Coburn to his boys at the "C Street House" of ill repute. |
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