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genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation
"would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would
"leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks
in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans
(ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I
joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not
promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet,
and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced
around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it
matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years
and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the
ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.

After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades
from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?

Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also
because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the
Army.

By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that health
care. Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting killed, and
working in the chemical. Your point?


The gov't does somethings quite well!

--
Nom=de=Plume


Over spend money for one. And the Fed's do a well at doing a worse job
than local government in education.


I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying. I need it in something
resembling English... no offense intended. Could you try again....

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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:


On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote:


genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet


The study's authors warn that the health care legislation
"would
do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would
"leave
at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks
in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.


Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans
(ref.
"Spinal Tap")?


...in response to a specious argument, btw.


And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I
joined
the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.


I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.


My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.


And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it
matters
not what you faced.


What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the
ugliness
that is war.


Are those vets any less entitled?


They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.


What color is it?


Prussian Blue?


It was actually a serious question. Since he's an expert, supposedly.

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It wasn't orange.



Correct. And, no answer is forthcoming from John (the AO expert).

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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,

wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation
"would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would
"leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform
kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans
(ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I
joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not
promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care
of those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet,
and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced
around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB,
a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it
matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years
and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the
ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so
they
covered those exposed.

After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades
from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?

Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered
also because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in
the Army.

By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that health
care. Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting killed, and
working in the chemical. Your point?

The gov't does somethings quite well!

--
Nom=de=Plume


Over spend money for one. And the Fed's do a well at doing a worse job
than local government in education.


I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying. I need it in
something resembling English... no offense intended. Could you try
again....

--
Nom=de=Plume


Challenged what little brain power you have? The feds screw up a lot of
stuff they control. Ever since the Dept of Education was formed, our
education results have plummeted.


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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,

wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation
"would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would
"leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform
kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans
(ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I
joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not
promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care
of those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet,
and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced
around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB,
a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it
matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years
and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the
ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so
they
covered those exposed.

After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades
from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?

Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered
also because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in
the Army.

By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that health
care. Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting killed, and
working in the chemical. Your point?

The gov't does somethings quite well!

--
Nom=de=Plume


Over spend money for one. And the Fed's do a well at doing a worse job
than local government in education.


I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying. I need it in
something resembling English... no offense intended. Could you try
again....

--
Nom=de=Plume


Mr Swill is living up to his name again.
"I'M PRAYING FOR A RAIN IN CALIFORNIA
SO THE GRAPES CAN GROW AND THEY CAN MAKE MORE WINE"


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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,

wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet
The study's authors warn that the health care legislation
"would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would
"leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform
kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.
Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans
(ref.
"Spinal Tap")?
...in response to a specious argument, btw.
And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I
joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not
promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care
of those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet,
and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.
I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.

I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced
around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB,
a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.
And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it
matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years
and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the
ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?
They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so
they
covered those exposed.
After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades
from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?
Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered
also because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in
the Army.
By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that health
care. Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting killed, and
working in the chemical. Your point?
The gov't does somethings quite well!

--
Nom=de=Plume

Over spend money for one. And the Fed's do a well at doing a worse job
than local government in education.

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying. I need it in
something resembling English... no offense intended. Could you try
again....

--
Nom=de=Plume


Mr Swill is living up to his name again.
"I'M PRAYING FOR A RAIN IN CALIFORNIA
SO THE GRAPES CAN GROW AND THEY CAN MAKE MORE WINE"


Thought you were a beer conasewer


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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,

wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet
The study's authors warn that the health care legislation
"would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would
"leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform
kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.
Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for
veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?
...in response to a specious argument, btw.
And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I
joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not
promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take
care of those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange
vet, and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.
I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.

I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced
around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars,
CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW.
He
deserved the care he got.
And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it
matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred
other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years
and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the
ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?
They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so
they
covered those exposed.
After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades
from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?
Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered
also because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in
the Army.
By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that health
care. Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting killed,
and working in the chemical. Your point?
The gov't does somethings quite well!

--
Nom=de=Plume

Over spend money for one. And the Fed's do a well at doing a worse
job than local government in education.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying. I need it in
something resembling English... no offense intended. Could you try
again....

--
Nom=de=Plume


Mr Swill is living up to his name again.
"I'M PRAYING FOR A RAIN IN CALIFORNIA
SO THE GRAPES CAN GROW AND THEY CAN MAKE MORE WINE"

Thought you were a beer conasewer


Not really....... i usually stick to what I like...Labatt Blue, Keiths
Light.... or Keiths Draught beer on tap


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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,

wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet
The study's authors warn that the health care legislation
"would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would
"leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform
kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.
Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for
veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?
...in response to a specious argument, btw.
And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I
joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not
promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take
care of those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange
vet, and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.
I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.
I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced
around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars,
CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW.
He
deserved the care he got.
And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it
matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred
other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years
and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the
ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?
They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so
they
covered those exposed.
After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades
from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?
Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered
also because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in
the Army.
By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that health
care. Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting killed,
and working in the chemical. Your point?
The gov't does somethings quite well!

--
Nom=de=Plume

Over spend money for one. And the Fed's do a well at doing a worse
job than local government in education.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying. I need it in
something resembling English... no offense intended. Could you try
again....

--
Nom=de=Plume

Mr Swill is living up to his name again.
"I'M PRAYING FOR A RAIN IN CALIFORNIA
SO THE GRAPES CAN GROW AND THEY CAN MAKE MORE WINE"

Thought you were a beer conasewer


Not really....... i usually stick to what I like...Labatt Blue, Keiths
Light.... or Keiths Draught beer on tap


So why the interest in grapes?
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,

wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet
The study's authors warn that the health care
legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and
would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when
reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.
Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for
veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?
...in response to a specious argument, btw.
And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when
I joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not
promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take
care of those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange
vet, and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.
I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.

I think it depends on what you did in the military. I
bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars,
CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a
POW. He
deserved the care he got.
And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it
matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred
other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for
years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the
ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?
They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later
so they
covered those exposed.
After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took
decades from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?
Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is
covered also because of his coverage. But she did spend a
couple years in the Army.
By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that
health care. Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting
killed, and working in the chemical. Your point?
The gov't does somethings quite well!

--
Nom=de=Plume

Over spend money for one. And the Fed's do a well at doing a worse
job than local government in education.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying. I need it in
something resembling English... no offense intended. Could you try
again....

--
Nom=de=Plume


Mr Swill is living up to his name again.
"I'M PRAYING FOR A RAIN IN CALIFORNIA
SO THE GRAPES CAN GROW AND THEY CAN MAKE MORE WINE"

Thought you were a beer conasewer



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Default 6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance

D.Duck wrote:
Jim wrote:
Don White wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,

wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet
The study's authors warn that the health care
legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and
would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when
reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.
Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for
veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?
...in response to a specious argument, btw.
And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical
when I joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did
not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take
care of those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent
Orange vet, and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.
I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.

I think it depends on what you did in the military. I
bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars,
CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a
POW. He
deserved the care he got.
And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line,
it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred
other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for
years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma,
the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?
They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later
so they
covered those exposed.
After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took
decades from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?
Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is
covered also because of his coverage. But she did spend a
couple years in the Army.
By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that
health care. Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting
killed, and working in the chemical. Your point?
The gov't does somethings quite well!

--
Nom=de=Plume

Over spend money for one. And the Fed's do a well at doing a
worse job than local government in education.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying. I need it in
something resembling English... no offense intended. Could you try
again....

--
Nom=de=Plume


Mr Swill is living up to his name again.
"I'M PRAYING FOR A RAIN IN CALIFORNIA
SO THE GRAPES CAN GROW AND THEY CAN MAKE MORE WINE"

Thought you were a beer conasewer



Commonsewer?


Thank you Mr Duck. I don't mind being corrected when I make a Typo. I
expected Donnie would pick up on it but his mind seems to be occupied
with other things.
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D.Duck wrote:
Jim wrote:
Don White wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600,

wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet
The study's authors warn that the health care
legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and
would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when
reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.
Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for
veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?
...in response to a specious argument, btw.
And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical
when I joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did
not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take
care of those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent
Orange vet, and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.
I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.

I think it depends on what you did in the military. I
bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars,
CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a
POW. He
deserved the care he got.
And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line,
it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred
other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for
years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma,
the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?
They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later
so they
covered those exposed.
After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took
decades from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?
Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is
covered also because of his coverage. But she did spend a
couple years in the Army.
By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that
health care. Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting
killed, and working in the chemical. Your point?
The gov't does somethings quite well!

--
Nom=de=Plume

Over spend money for one. And the Fed's do a well at doing a
worse job than local government in education.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying. I need it in
something resembling English... no offense intended. Could you try
again....

--
Nom=de=Plume


Mr Swill is living up to his name again.
"I'M PRAYING FOR A RAIN IN CALIFORNIA
SO THE GRAPES CAN GROW AND THEY CAN MAKE MORE WINE"

Thought you were a beer conasewer



Commonsewer?


Thank you Mr Duck. I don't mind being corrected when I make a Typo. I
expected Donnie would pick up on it but his mind seems to be occupied
with other things.


His daddy/lover Harry didn't tell him to yet.

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