On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:29:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined
the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.


What color is it?

Did he get stoned when he drank it?

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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would
do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave
at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks
in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans
(ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined
the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the
ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.

After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?

Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also
because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army.

By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked.

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Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that health care.
Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting killed, and working
in the chemical. Your point?

The gov't does somethings quite well!

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:29:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would
do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave
at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks
in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans
(ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined
the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.


What color is it?

Prussian Blue?


It was actually a serious question. Since he's an expert, supposedly.

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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation
"would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would
"leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks
in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans
(ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I
joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet,
and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it
matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the
ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.

After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from
what I recall.

Excellent coverage, eh?

Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also
because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army.

By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that health care.
Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting killed, and working
in the chemical. Your point?

The gov't does somethings quite well!

--
Nom=de=Plume


Over spend money for one. And the Fed's do a well at doing a worse job
than local government in education.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:28:18 -0600, wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:15:03 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.

Ok, John. On which Depeche Mode album did "Agent Orange" first
appear? :)

Did I really say, "Oh ****!"

I suppose I can't use Google, so you'll have to wait until the library
opens tomorrow.

Geeeeez.
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:36:47 -0600, wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:29:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined
the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.


What color is it?

Prussian Blue?

That was vacuous. That gal (?) definitely fits the word. I wonder if
sheheit's a blonde?
--

John H

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:20:44 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:28:18 -0600, wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:15:03 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the
Air
Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those
with
service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets
his
care via the VA. Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree.


I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.


I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.

Ok, John. On which Depeche Mode album did "Agent Orange" first
appear? :)

Did I really say, "Oh ****!"

I suppose I can't use Google, so you'll have to wait until the library
opens tomorrow.

Geeeeez.

I missed something somewhere, I suppose. It wasn't my intent to
offend you, John. Many apologies.

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On Nov 13, 3:28*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:15:03 -0500, John H



wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

wrote in message
news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax. com...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the
Air
Force. *They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service *And they do take care of those
with
service connected problems. *My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets
his
care via the VA. *Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. *I'm sure you disagree.

I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, *a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. *Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.

I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.

Ok, John. *On which Depeche Mode album did "Agent Orange" first
appear? *:)

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That's easy. i know that one!

On Nov 13, 4:30*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:29:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would
do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave
at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks
in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans
(ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined
the
Air
Force. *They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service *And they do take care of
those
with
service connected problems. *My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and
gets
his
care via the VA. *Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. *I'm sure you disagree.

I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, *a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. *Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.

I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.

What color is it?

Prussian Blue?

It was actually a serious question. Since he's an expert, supposedly.

--
Nom=de=Plume

It wasn't orange.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:34:40 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Nov 13, 3:28*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:15:03 -0500, John H



wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:

wrote in message
news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax. com...
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote:

genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet

The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do
virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at
least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in,"
leaving many veterans still without care.

Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref.
"Spinal Tap")?

...in response to a specious argument, btw.

And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the
Air
Force. *They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise
medical
for those not retiring from the service *And they do take care of those
with
service connected problems. *My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets
his
care via the VA. *Good care also.

I think vets deserve better. *I'm sure you disagree.

I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around
in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the
Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything.

My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, *a
couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He
deserved the care he got.

And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters
not what you faced.

What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other
chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and
aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness
that is war.

Are those vets any less entitled?

They get taken care of. *Agent Orange effects showed up later so they
covered those exposed.

I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any.

Ok, John. *On which Depeche Mode album did "Agent Orange" first
appear? *:)

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That's easy. i know that one!

Music for the Masses? "Agent Orange" is a great, haunting tune. There
doesn't seem to be a good rendition of it on Youtube anymore,
unfortunately.

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