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6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:33:44 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax .com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from what I recall. Excellent coverage, eh? Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army. How many decades did your brother wait for the VA to recognize the effects of Agent Orange? Just going to ignore that little fact? |
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#33
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6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message om... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any. -- John H "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Churchill |
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#34
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6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:15:03 -0500, John H
wrote: On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax. com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any. Ok, John. On which Depeche Mode album did "Agent Orange" first appear? :) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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#35
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6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
"John H" wrote in message
... On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax. com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any. What color is it? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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#36
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6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:29:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4ax .com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any. What color is it? Prussian Blue? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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#37
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6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On 11/13/09 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:29:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "John wrote in message ... On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any. What color is it? Prussian Blue? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access If Herr Herring is involved, it's prussian blue for sure... :) -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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#38
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6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:38:57 -0500, H the K
wrote: On 11/13/09 4:36 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:29:52 -0800, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "John wrote in message ... On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message ... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. I'd be glad to answer Agent Orange questions if there are any. What color is it? Prussian Blue? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access If Herr Herring is involved, it's prussian blue for sure... :) I would be surprised if Prussian Blue is a group on John's list. He seems a bit more sensible than that. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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#39
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6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
"jps" wrote in message news  On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:33:44 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message m... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4a x.com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from what I recall. Excellent coverage, eh? Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army. How many decades did your brother wait for the VA to recognize the effects of Agent Orange? Just going to ignore that little fact? Nope. |
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6 Vets die each day for lack of health insurance
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:28:43 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: "jps" wrote in message m... On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:35 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:36:21 -0800, jps wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:19:51 -0800, "Bill McKee" wrote: wrote in message news:sdfkf55phedo8f92i0ep84ukfgu575mc3q@4a x.com... On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:27:41 -0600, wrote: genuine drivel redacted by some dead poet The study's authors warn that the health care legislation "would do virtually nothing for the uninsured until 2013" and would "leave at least 17 million uninsured over the long run when reform kicks in," leaving many veterans still without care. Why not simply adjust the means-testing favorably for veterans (ref. "Spinal Tap")? ...in response to a specious argument, btw. And I do not remember being promised lifetime medical when I joined the Air Force. They cover service connected injuries, but did not promise medical for those not retiring from the service And they do take care of those with service connected problems. My brother is an Agent Orange vet, and gets his care via the VA. Good care also. I think vets deserve better. I'm sure you disagree. I think it depends on what you did in the military. I bounced around in the North Atlantic, kept the godless communists out of the Chesapeake bay and I don't think the VA owes me anything. My father had a European theater medal with 2 battle stars, CIB, a couple other campaign medals, 2 purple hearts and he was a POW. He deserved the care he got. And yet, unless you were injured somewhere along the line, it matters not what you faced. What happens, like in the case of Agent Orange and a hundred other chemicals vets were exposed to, symptoms don't show up for years and aren't directly attributable to the exposure, the trauma, the ugliness that is war. Are those vets any less entitled? They get taken care of. Agent Orange effects showed up later so they covered those exposed. After a long fight over recognizing the effects. It took decades from what I recall. Excellent coverage, eh? Yup, my brother gets excellent coverage. And his wife is covered also because of his coverage. But she did spend a couple years in the Army. By gov't run health care?? I'm shocked. -- Nom=de=Plume Gov't run does not mean cheaper. And he paid a lot for that health care. Sleeping in a tent, getting shot at, friends getting killed, and working in the chemical. Your point? |
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