jps wrote in news:cl1dd59n32hnagfkbk55pjo07ukp48qiub@
4ax.com:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:40:23 -0600, Howard Brazee
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:58 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

Why do you connect FOX News and the Republican party? FOX News is
conservative but it isn't Republican.

All Fox News does is advance Republican propaganda.

Do you know the difference between a conservative and a Republican?

He thinks Fox news is Republican more than conservative - you think it
is more conservative than Republican. That doesn't mean the two of
you disagree about which is which. But neither has backed up your
choice with evidence.

The Republican platform was created with lots of compromise and lots
of fighting (as is the nature of such platforms).

There isn't a conservative platform - instead there are many
conservative platforms - some which are contradictory. Obviously a
conservative Roman Catholic, a conservative Mormon, a conservative
millionaire businessman, and a conservative racist, and a conservative
Muslim have different platforms. (As do Liberal versions of all of
the above).

Well said. Roger Ailes and his assigns hew tightly to the Republican
agenda.


Notice that he said (As do liberal versions of all the above). Do you
think that CNN gets its talking points from the Democratic Party or is it
simply liberal biased like MSNBC?

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On TV, they show how detergents take out bloodstains. A pretty
violent image. I think if you've got a Tshirt full of bloodstains,
maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem. Maybe you should get rid
of the body before you do the wash and get some different friends.

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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:25:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

jps wrote in
m:



Why do you connect FOX News and the Republican party? FOX News is
conservative but it isn't Republican. You sound like someone who has
never watched it and gets all their information from blogs like the
Daily Kos and the Huffington Post.

Fox News is the Republican party.

No, it isn't.

Do you have any idea who Roger Ailes is?

Yep.....do you know who George Soros or Jeffrey Immelt are?

Shep Smith is the only anchor on the channel that has a chance of
being considered a journalist.

A true journalist, yes....but a news person can also be a straight
shooter. Political commentators, such as O'Reilly, Hannity and company
are there to spark commentary......Glen Beck is there as libertarian
entertainment.

The rest are political hacks who opine
the Republican message of the day, as dictated by Ailes.

You really think Greta Van Susteren gets her Republican message from
Ailes? How about Julie Bandaras? Or Major Smith? Or Carl Cameron?

Or (gag) Geraldo?

Geraldo fails to get messages from just about anyone....been like that
since that neoNAZI thug hit him in the mouth on his old show.

Maybe you should stop watching and read a little history from the
folks who've worked there.

I have also heard from folks who used to work for MSNBC and CNN. You
should try that.

I assume that you think McCafferty, Matthews and Olbermann are
straight
shooters with the facts during their opinions. Is that correct?




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Sleep well tonight,

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On TV, they show how detergents take out bloodstains. A pretty
violent image. I think if you've got a Tshirt full of bloodstains,
maybe laundry isn't your biggest problem. Maybe you should get rid
of the body before you do the wash and get some different friends.

"Barack Hussein Bohica" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:18:18 -0500, "SaPeIsMa"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:47:56 -0500, "SaPeIsMa"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

jps wrote in
news:ehacd5te3couilk5t8p0mg3it9c2fv3csf@
4ax.com:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:25:18 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

I assume that you think McCafferty, Matthews and Olbermann are
straight
shooters with the facts during their opinions. Is that correct?

They're politically motivated but they don't take orders from the
boss. Everyone at Fox does.

ROFLMAO. Waiting for your proof........

Find it yourself, or better yet, keep your head buried in the sand.

It obviously suits you.

Don't you just love these ignorant blowhards who go around making stupid
claims and then expect you to prove them wrong
It just goes to show that these idiots work to the rule
"This is the conclusion on which I base my facts.."
I they didn't, they would be able to provide the proof to support their
claims
Since they can't, they're just ignorant blowhards

Well, I'm really put in my place Mr. Pot Kettle Black.

Unlike you ****heads, I do my homework BEFORE making a claim
Come back when you've grown past your grade-school approach to
discussion

You think jps has time?

According to scientists, the Universe will reach total entropy in only
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years...

True
But I am an optimist.. :-))

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in
lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just
like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are
mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking
points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the
Republican Party.

That's a very foggy mirror you've got.

Fox News *fabricates* stories to tear at Democrats. Olbermann and
Maddow may use hyperbole to make their points but they do not
fabricate. Nor do they promote "grassroots" gatherings and then
"report" on them.

They greatly overhyped the "taxpayer" revolt in Washngton DC and then
didn't even cover the gay march on Washington two weeks later that had
at least as many or more attendees -- and it wasn't promoted on
television by CNN or MSNBC.

These a just a few examples of what happens at Fox News every day. But
please feel free to keep fogging that mirror to your heart's content.

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:02:06 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

jps wrote in news:cl1dd59n32hnagfkbk55pjo07ukp48qiub@
4ax.com:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:40:23 -0600, Howard Brazee
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:58 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

Why do you connect FOX News and the Republican party? FOX News is
conservative but it isn't Republican.

All Fox News does is advance Republican propaganda.

Do you know the difference between a conservative and a Republican?

He thinks Fox news is Republican more than conservative - you think it
is more conservative than Republican. That doesn't mean the two of
you disagree about which is which. But neither has backed up your
choice with evidence.

The Republican platform was created with lots of compromise and lots
of fighting (as is the nature of such platforms).

There isn't a conservative platform - instead there are many
conservative platforms - some which are contradictory. Obviously a
conservative Roman Catholic, a conservative Mormon, a conservative
millionaire businessman, and a conservative racist, and a conservative
Muslim have different platforms. (As do Liberal versions of all of
the above).

Well said. Roger Ailes and his assigns hew tightly to the Republican
agenda.


Notice that he said (As do liberal versions of all the above). Do you
think that CNN gets its talking points from the Democratic Party or is it
simply liberal biased like MSNBC?

CNN is a hodge podge of everyone's talking points. They're just as
likely to pick up something from the R's as they are from the D's.

MSNBC is certainly in the liberal camp but neither CNN nor MSNBC
fabricate stories like Fox.

Neither do they astroturf taxpayer gatherings like Fox does. Fox news
people not only promote these gatherings they "report" on but they're
in the crowd getting them riled up before the cameras are turned on.

Is that news or premeditated, produced propaganda?

On 10/16/09 4:23 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in
lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just
like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are
mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking
points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the
Republican Party.

That's a very foggy mirror you've got.

Fox News *fabricates* stories to tear at Democrats. Olbermann and
Maddow may use hyperbole to make their points but they do not
fabricate. Nor do they promote "grassroots" gatherings and then
"report" on them.

They greatly overhyped the "taxpayer" revolt in Washngton DC and then
didn't even cover the gay march on Washington two weeks later that had
at least as many or more attendees -- and it wasn't promoted on
television by CNN or MSNBC.

These a just a few examples of what happens at Fox News every day. But
please feel free to keep fogging that mirror to your heart's content.


Keith is behind a fundraiser for that group that sets up free medical
clinics in cities where there are thousands of people with no access to
decent medical or dental care. As of mid-week, his viewers had
contributed nearly a million dollars. Three clinics are planned so far.

Fox brings a bunch of retards together in various cities so they can
carry idiot signs, curse at obama, and practice their racism.



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On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:29:12 -0400, H the K
wrote:

On 10/16/09 4:23 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in
lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just
like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are
mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking
points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the
Republican Party.

That's a very foggy mirror you've got.

Fox News *fabricates* stories to tear at Democrats. Olbermann and
Maddow may use hyperbole to make their points but they do not
fabricate. Nor do they promote "grassroots" gatherings and then
"report" on them.

They greatly overhyped the "taxpayer" revolt in Washngton DC and then
didn't even cover the gay march on Washington two weeks later that had
at least as many or more attendees -- and it wasn't promoted on
television by CNN or MSNBC.

These a just a few examples of what happens at Fox News every day. But
please feel free to keep fogging that mirror to your heart's content.


Keith is behind a fundraiser for that group that sets up free medical
clinics in cities where there are thousands of people with no access to
decent medical or dental care. As of mid-week, his viewers had
contributed nearly a million dollars. Three clinics are planned so far.

Fox brings a bunch of retards together in various cities so they can
carry idiot signs, curse at obama, and practice their racism.

OMG, is that some sort of socialism they're practicing? No doubt the
medical attention is being given to black welfare mothers who drive
Cadillacs and trade their foodstamps for crack, right?

On 10/16/09 4:42 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:29:12 -0400, H the K
wrote:

On 10/16/09 4:23 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:00:42 -0500, "RD (The Sandman)"
wrote:

Yep.....do you think all the folks at CNN, MSNBC or FOX all march in
lockstep with each other? I think the FOX channel is conservative just
like those other channels are liberal. I don't think that they are
mouthpieces of the Democratic Party or go to that party for their talking
points any more than I think that FOX is the mouthpiece for the
Republican Party.

That's a very foggy mirror you've got.

Fox News *fabricates* stories to tear at Democrats. Olbermann and
Maddow may use hyperbole to make their points but they do not
fabricate. Nor do they promote "grassroots" gatherings and then
"report" on them.

They greatly overhyped the "taxpayer" revolt in Washngton DC and then
didn't even cover the gay march on Washington two weeks later that had
at least as many or more attendees -- and it wasn't promoted on
television by CNN or MSNBC.

These a just a few examples of what happens at Fox News every day. But
please feel free to keep fogging that mirror to your heart's content.


Keith is behind a fundraiser for that group that sets up free medical
clinics in cities where there are thousands of people with no access to
decent medical or dental care. As of mid-week, his viewers had
contributed nearly a million dollars. Three clinics are planned so far.

Fox brings a bunch of retards together in various cities so they can
carry idiot signs, curse at obama, and practice their racism.

OMG, is that some sort of socialism they're practicing? No doubt the
medical attention is being given to black welfare mothers who drive
Cadillacs and trade their foodstamps for crack, right?


Indeed. But the clips I saw showed a colorful assortment of people,
including many who had jobs but no health insurance. :)



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On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:39:09 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:26:59 -0700, jps wrote:

MSNBC is certainly in the liberal camp but neither CNN nor MSNBC
fabricate stories like Fox.


Unless you watch Olbernann. He is just a left wing Limbaugh who never
lets the truth get in the way of a good rant.

I'll admit to hyperbole but Rush is a serial fabricator.

I listen to him frequently and can tell when he's stretching the truth
unfairly and to the benefit of his point, but he doesn't just make
stuff up.

Rush turns events inside out to make them seem the complete opposite
of what they are.

I suggest you spend more time watching Rachael Maddow. She's the
goods. And yes, she does some positioning but she's honest about it.

On 10/16/09 4:50 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:39:09 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:26:59 -0700, wrote:

MSNBC is certainly in the liberal camp but neither CNN nor MSNBC
fabricate stories like Fox.


Unless you watch Olbernann. He is just a left wing Limbaugh who never
lets the truth get in the way of a good rant.

I'll admit to hyperbole but Rush is a serial fabricator.

I listen to him frequently and can tell when he's stretching the truth
unfairly and to the benefit of his point, but he doesn't just make
stuff up.

Rush turns events inside out to make them seem the complete opposite
of what they are.

I suggest you spend more time watching Rachael Maddow. She's the
goods. And yes, she does some positioning but she's honest about it.

Rachel is *the best," no doubt about it. I wish she were moderating
"Meet the Press."




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