On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:04:08 -0700, Jim wrote:



Yesterday I was involved in ANOTHER parking lot accident caused by the
other party backing out of a parking space while dialing a number on
their phone.

That's four times in two years. Best not to get me in a cell phone debate.

The best I can offer is that these guys are giving themselves brain
cancer while driving up insurance rates. They would put the damn phone
down if they could understand why they should.

Just drove about 2500 miles and had only one "close-call."
Woman talking on a cell wandered over and almost got me.
Glad my wife screamed me onto the shoulder.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:04:08 -0700, Jim wrote:



Yesterday I was involved in ANOTHER parking lot accident caused by the
other party backing out of a parking space while dialing a number on
their phone.

That's four times in two years. Best not to get me in a cell phone
debate.

The best I can offer is that these guys are giving themselves brain
cancer while driving up insurance rates. They would put the damn phone
down if they could understand why they should.

Just drove about 2500 miles and had only one "close-call."
Woman talking on a cell wandered over and almost got me.
Glad my wife screamed me onto the shoulder.

--Vic


I see people on the phone all the time. Around here, it's mostly guys in big
pickups, although there's the occaisonal sedan with a woman talking. I
watched a van run a red (no side traffic fortunately) while she was yacking
away. I don't think she noticed. I don't even like to talk via the built-in
bluetooth. That's distracting too. I usually pull over or if not possible,
slow down and move over, e.g., on the freeway.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:50:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:04:08 -0700, Jim wrote:



Yesterday I was involved in ANOTHER parking lot accident caused by the
other party backing out of a parking space while dialing a number on
their phone.

That's four times in two years. Best not to get me in a cell phone
debate.

The best I can offer is that these guys are giving themselves brain
cancer while driving up insurance rates. They would put the damn phone
down if they could understand why they should.

Just drove about 2500 miles and had only one "close-call."
Woman talking on a cell wandered over and almost got me.
Glad my wife screamed me onto the shoulder.

--Vic


I see people on the phone all the time. Around here, it's mostly guys in big
pickups, although there's the occaisonal sedan with a woman talking. I
watched a van run a red (no side traffic fortunately) while she was yacking
away. I don't think she noticed. I don't even like to talk via the built-in
bluetooth. That's distracting too. I usually pull over or if not possible,
slow down and move over, e.g., on the freeway.

I hate to say it, but it seems to me that females with cell phones
pose the big problem. Yes, there may be males using them, but they
don't seem to get as distracted as do the females. When a car slows
from 70 to 50 in the fast lane, it's usually a female on a cell phone.
Totally oblivious to cars behind her.

"John H" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:50:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:04:08 -0700, Jim wrote:



Yesterday I was involved in ANOTHER parking lot accident caused by the
other party backing out of a parking space while dialing a number on
their phone.

That's four times in two years. Best not to get me in a cell phone
debate.

The best I can offer is that these guys are giving themselves brain
cancer while driving up insurance rates. They would put the damn phone
down if they could understand why they should.

Just drove about 2500 miles and had only one "close-call."
Woman talking on a cell wandered over and almost got me.
Glad my wife screamed me onto the shoulder.

--Vic


I see people on the phone all the time. Around here, it's mostly guys in
big
pickups, although there's the occaisonal sedan with a woman talking. I
watched a van run a red (no side traffic fortunately) while she was
yacking
away. I don't think she noticed. I don't even like to talk via the
built-in
bluetooth. That's distracting too. I usually pull over or if not possible,
slow down and move over, e.g., on the freeway.

I hate to say it, but it seems to me that females with cell phones
pose the big problem. Yes, there may be males using them, but they
don't seem to get as distracted as do the females. When a car slows
from 70 to 50 in the fast lane, it's usually a female on a cell phone.
Totally oblivious to cars behind her.


I think that's totally sexist and not supported by any facts I'm aware of.
There's no comparison between testonerone big wheels driving, while yacking
about God knows what, while driving single-handed and smoking a cig.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:50:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:50:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:04:08 -0700, Jim wrote:



Yesterday I was involved in ANOTHER parking lot accident caused by the
other party backing out of a parking space while dialing a number on
their phone.

That's four times in two years. Best not to get me in a cell phone
debate.

The best I can offer is that these guys are giving themselves brain
cancer while driving up insurance rates. They would put the damn phone
down if they could understand why they should.

Just drove about 2500 miles and had only one "close-call."
Woman talking on a cell wandered over and almost got me.
Glad my wife screamed me onto the shoulder.

--Vic


I see people on the phone all the time. Around here, it's mostly guys in
big
pickups, although there's the occaisonal sedan with a woman talking. I
watched a van run a red (no side traffic fortunately) while she was
yacking
away. I don't think she noticed. I don't even like to talk via the
built-in
bluetooth. That's distracting too. I usually pull over or if not possible,
slow down and move over, e.g., on the freeway.

I hate to say it, but it seems to me that females with cell phones
pose the big problem. Yes, there may be males using them, but they
don't seem to get as distracted as do the females. When a car slows
from 70 to 50 in the fast lane, it's usually a female on a cell phone.
Totally oblivious to cars behind her.


I think that's totally sexist and not supported by any facts I'm aware of.
There's no comparison between testonerone big wheels driving, while yacking
about God knows what, while driving single-handed and smoking a cig.

That's like saying I'm racist because I'm not wild about the health
bill being held up by the friggin' Democrats.

Facts are facts. 'Testonerone' big wheels driving while yacking don't
slow down to nothing and wander back and forth like the females do.

He "The following three points summarize the results from the
Poisson estimations. First, more phone usage while driving is
associated with higher accident risk for women in our sample. RT also
found that cell phone usage by women appears to be riskier than usage
by men."

from:
http://aei-brookings.org/admin/autho...POST1-4-07.pdf

or: http://tinyurl.com/2ygznv


Enough on that subject.

"John H" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:50:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:50:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:04:08 -0700, Jim wrote:



Yesterday I was involved in ANOTHER parking lot accident caused by the
other party backing out of a parking space while dialing a number on
their phone.

That's four times in two years. Best not to get me in a cell phone
debate.

The best I can offer is that these guys are giving themselves brain
cancer while driving up insurance rates. They would put the damn
phone
down if they could understand why they should.

Just drove about 2500 miles and had only one "close-call."
Woman talking on a cell wandered over and almost got me.
Glad my wife screamed me onto the shoulder.

--Vic


I see people on the phone all the time. Around here, it's mostly guys in
big
pickups, although there's the occaisonal sedan with a woman talking. I
watched a van run a red (no side traffic fortunately) while she was
yacking
away. I don't think she noticed. I don't even like to talk via the
built-in
bluetooth. That's distracting too. I usually pull over or if not
possible,
slow down and move over, e.g., on the freeway.

I hate to say it, but it seems to me that females with cell phones
pose the big problem. Yes, there may be males using them, but they
don't seem to get as distracted as do the females. When a car slows
from 70 to 50 in the fast lane, it's usually a female on a cell phone.
Totally oblivious to cars behind her.


I think that's totally sexist and not supported by any facts I'm aware of.
There's no comparison between testonerone big wheels driving, while
yacking
about God knows what, while driving single-handed and smoking a cig.

That's like saying I'm racist because I'm not wild about the health
bill being held up by the friggin' Democrats.

It's sexist because it's not just about "getting distracted." It's your
opinion not supported by facts.


Facts are facts. 'Testonerone' big wheels driving while yacking don't
slow down to nothing and wander back and forth like the females do.

Pure supposition.

He "The following three points summarize the results from the
Poisson estimations. First, more phone usage while driving is
associated with higher accident risk for women in our sample. RT also
found that cell phone usage by women appears to be riskier than usage
by men."

from:
http://aei-brookings.org/admin/autho...POST1-4-07.pdf

or: http://tinyurl.com/2ygznv


That's one study. Here's another perspective:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/com...y_car_men.html


--
Nom=de=Plume

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:26:54 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:50:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:50:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:04:08 -0700, Jim wrote:



Yesterday I was involved in ANOTHER parking lot accident caused by the
other party backing out of a parking space while dialing a number on
their phone.

That's four times in two years. Best not to get me in a cell phone
debate.

The best I can offer is that these guys are giving themselves brain
cancer while driving up insurance rates. They would put the damn
phone
down if they could understand why they should.

Just drove about 2500 miles and had only one "close-call."
Woman talking on a cell wandered over and almost got me.
Glad my wife screamed me onto the shoulder.

--Vic


I see people on the phone all the time. Around here, it's mostly guys in
big
pickups, although there's the occaisonal sedan with a woman talking. I
watched a van run a red (no side traffic fortunately) while she was
yacking
away. I don't think she noticed. I don't even like to talk via the
built-in
bluetooth. That's distracting too. I usually pull over or if not
possible,
slow down and move over, e.g., on the freeway.

I hate to say it, but it seems to me that females with cell phones
pose the big problem. Yes, there may be males using them, but they
don't seem to get as distracted as do the females. When a car slows
from 70 to 50 in the fast lane, it's usually a female on a cell phone.
Totally oblivious to cars behind her.


I think that's totally sexist and not supported by any facts I'm aware of.
There's no comparison between testonerone big wheels driving, while
yacking
about God knows what, while driving single-handed and smoking a cig.

That's like saying I'm racist because I'm not wild about the health
bill being held up by the friggin' Democrats.

It's sexist because it's not just about "getting distracted." It's your
opinion not supported by facts.


Facts are facts. 'Testonerone' big wheels driving while yacking don't
slow down to nothing and wander back and forth like the females do.

Pure supposition.

He "The following three points summarize the results from the
Poisson estimations. First, more phone usage while driving is
associated with higher accident risk for women in our sample. RT also
found that cell phone usage by women appears to be riskier than usage
by men."

from:
http://aei-brookings.org/admin/autho...POST1-4-07.pdf

or: http://tinyurl.com/2ygznv


That's one study. Here's another perspective:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/com...y_car_men.html

I gave you a legitimate study and you give me the Washington Post.

Give me a break. Can you understand why the word 'ditzy' comes to
mind?